Thanks, I've noticed BCG is a big recruiter at most European business schools - I'm just curious what travel would be like in Europe for an English-only speaking consultant considering the drastic differences in language/culture - it wouldn't be ideal to travel due to language barriers from one country to another. Not sure how this works unless English is commonly spoken or if there is a specific language requirement when working overseas, then its fine id assume. I know LBS and INSEAD require proficiency in a 2nd language and prefer a 3rd by the end of graduation.

 

Based on my own experience at one of MBB, travel across offices is quite frequent there, since you can relatively quickly travel between clients and offices in different countries. Depending on the project, I usually had the choice of going to my home office on either Monday or Friday, or staying for 3-4 weeks at once. You can just speak English to everyone employed at the firm across all European offices. In general, travel is relatively common at MBB in Europe, though sometimes you may also get a project where you don't really have to travel much or at all during the duration of the project.

 

This also depends a little on the firm. I know people at a European McK office who are always working on projects abroad whereas I get the idea that at Bain this is a little less the case. My sample size is not big enough to be very confident about this though.

London MBB is CRAZY competitive btw. Possibly the most competitive location to get into consulting cause it's the only English speaking office in Europe and therefore everyone from anywhere in the world is applying there. Im not saying you cant pull it off but expect extremely fierce competition.

 
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Experience depends on the office, the industry sector, and the firm.

In smaller offices (e.g., Portugal, Poland, ...) you are more likely to work across industry sectors when you start out as there is no critical mass in any one industry sector. Once you start specializing in an industry sector (e.g., automotive, retail banking, ...) you are likely to travel, as there is simply not a sufficient client base locally.

In larger offices (e.g., UK, Germany), you start specializing in an industry sector earlier, and you are much more likely to be staffed locally.

In general, local language skills are a huge plus in consulting. In your early years, you will mostly work with middle managers as clients. Everyone speaks SOME English, but not everyone is comfortable. For example, try to run a client workshop with 15 Spanish sales managers (or make that Italian sales managers, or German sales managers) and you are the only person that doesn't speak the local language, and everyone has to speak English just for you. I can guarantee the meeting will switch to the local language in the first 15 minutes. Also, consulting is about gaining client trust and building relationships to clients. That is much more difficult if you can't speak to people in their local language, as you will not pick up on subtle cues that the client gives.

As you advance, it becomes less of an issue. Top managers are generally very comfortable speaking English, plus once you have been in the consulting industry for long enough that you actually have something interesting to say, people will listen no matter the language.

The fluidity across offices depends on the way P&Ls are managed. BCG puts a strong emphasis on country P&Ls, so the local office manager has a strong preference for "his" consultants to be staffed locally. McK is much more fluid.

In the end, much comes down to personal preference. If you want an international staffing, you can typically get it. Might be a bit more difficult because you have to convince people that you can be effective without the local language skills, but not impossible.

However, I would say that 90% of London MBB consultants spend most of their time in London because that's what they want to do, and they see it as a privilege being able to work in consulting without having to travel a lot.

And on the competitiveness: Yes London office is competitive. On the other hand, MBB London also competes against lots of other highly paid attractive jobs in London (banking, ...). As a consequence, I would say the quality of consultants in London is in fact a bit lower than in other countries, where MBB is the only option.

 

And in terms of where to get the MBA from - it doesn't make a big difference whether it is from the US or Europe. MBB is very brand conscious, so simply choose the most prestigious school you can get into. H/S/W still have a clear edge over LBS/INSEAD I would say, although LBS/INSEAD are of course "good enough". The one advantage re:INSEAD is that there are at any time probably close to ~100 students from MBB European offices, so the networking is great.

Also, some European MBB offices specifically recruit at US business schools (e.g., McK German office does an annual tour). If not, just send an application - the process tends to be a bit less structured than in the US.

 

Only McK has global staffing, the other two are more regional. But getting relocated after a few years is definitely possible.

Do you speak any European language, have any family in Europe? You need to have solid reasons and often also speak the local language.

I know that that some MBB (for example McK Germany) tour top US schools and even do OCR

 
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I've heard that for Europe for McKinsey there are only 6 places available for a summer internship Does anyone know about European summer internships for MBB?

Six places for the whole of Europe ( 25+ offices) is highly unlikely. More likely is that this is the quota for one office or country. Even then they don't work with quota's; recruitment process is so selective and demanding that quota's are unnecessary.

MBB european recruitment for summer internships is quite varied across the different offices. First of all you will only be considered for a certain office if you are highly proficient in the local language and have a strong link to the location (ie are a citizen/resident or have been studying there). In the UK there are very strict deadlines for summer internships (recruitment starts and ends in the fall the year before). Whereas a few offices in continental western europe have all year recruitment for positions through out the year. Focus your search on the offices you are eligible for, certainly won't be all of Europe and find out what the local process is (ocr, select recruitment events, online etc)

There's no need to repeat how important networking is; just read almost any other thread on this site. So you loose nothing by cold calling/emailing. Worst that can happen is that you just don't get a reply and wasted a couple of minutes writing an email - just don't get discouraged. Most people you contact might not bother to reply, of the ones that do reply, few will be willing to meet physically. Just keep your messages brief and to the point, ask a few questions that can be answered on email. Avoid questions that can be answered by a simple internet search. If you strike up someone's interest they maybe interested in meeting physically, so be prepared if that should happen.

 

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