Do firms alter post MBA salary based on B-School Ranking?
Do firms such as the Big 4, M/B/B, Accenture...whoever the case may be, alter starting salary post MBA based on your B-School ranking?
For example, Deloitte recruits from both Georgetown and George Washington University. Evidently, Georgetown is of a quite higher ranking than GW. So, if hired by Deloitte post MBA, would starting salary be the same for someone from either Georgetown or GW? Or would the starting salary be a bit smaller if hired out of GW due to rankings?
Thanks!
Same role, no...but they'll recruit for different roles at lower ranked schools. For example, Deloitte recruits for supply chain stuff at byu/penn state for non-generalist s&o roles, and they get offered less.
No, all offers are the same across the schools. What differs is the amount of people they'll take/recruiting effort, and possibly what roles they recruit for.
Thanks guys! Appreciate the help!
Salary differences at Big 4 top-tier vs lower tier MBA? (Originally Posted: 02/26/2016)
Hey! I was wondering if where you get your MBA has any bearing on compensation in the advisory practices of the Big 4. Is there a big difference in coming from a top 10 school vs everyone else? Thanks!
I haven't worked in advisory at the Big 4 but my understanding from discussions is that the salary levels are a pretty small band at each level. Any salaries notably above the standard "level" are usually the result of previous experience and offered to meet experienced candidates expectations. Given that, I doubt alma mater significantly plays into comp in a direct fashion when you start. Over time a more prestigious school could help you get prime assignments, promote quicker, and leverage your network to bring in business - thus increasing comp over time compared with someone from a less rigorous school.
Median Salaries Across MBA Programs (Originally Posted: 04/03/2013)
I've been cruising through some MBA job placement data and noticed that median salaries vary between most schools for jobs in the same industry. My understanding is that the varying salaries come from different jobs obtained by the student body (i.e. top paying jobs will pay the same to all grads regardless of school, it's just that the student body from top schools tend to get most of the top paying jobs). Is this correct or do companies sometimes offer different salaries to graduates from different MBA programs for the same job? If companies sometimes do offer different salaries for the same job according to MBA program, how common is this?
Thanks, I look forward to hearing your views.
Salaries aren't based on school, they are based on what was paid for that position previously, what the candidate's experience is, and what the candidate has received in prior positions.
The reason for the discrepancy for similar jobs at different schools is that some of the better schools might have candidates who were paid higher or had better work experience prior to entering b-school, and therefore merit a higher salary.
The poster above me is partly right. Outside of IB and Consulting, pay varies by all of the things mentioned above. Generally, there's probably a ball park each person (company and graduate) needs to be in to get the deal done, but experience and prior pay will, or could, be a factor.
Outside of that, geography probably plays the largest role. We don't see that as often because most of the people on this forum tend to look at IB, PE and consulting post MBA and those industries tend to pay the same amount in equivalent positions regardless of location. This doesn't seem to be the case in other industries.
Also consider that schools tend to send their kids to certain locations after graduation. Schools in the top 10 generally send a bunch of kids to NYC or maybe a few other major cities. Top 20 programs tend to send a bunch of kids to top cities and to the larger cities in their given region. Outside of that the programs because even more 'local' or 'regional'. The point there is, someplace like Owen (Vanderbilt) sends kids to the NE and west coast, but they have a ton of grads that stay and look for jobs in Nashville. You may be an Owen graduate looking for a CorpDev type roll but decide you are going to take it at a $200mm a year widget manufacturer in Nashville instead of the F500 company, because you want to stay in Nashville (supposedly this is a 'problem' the career services office experiences at Owen).
That local manufacturer isn't directly competing with that F500 for talent, so they aren't necessarily going to pay as much given the lower cost of living in that city. Also, that local manufacturer only has to worry about his one Nashville location, whereas a F500 is going to need to consider all of their locations. At the F500 post MBA level, you can bet that their pay is more standardized because they NEED to place kids everywhere, not just in the larger cities, where graduates might more naturally want to be or want to go because they pay more there. Also, a number of post MBA career roles could involve living in multiple locations doing a rotation program and it's highly unlikely the firm is going to constantly adjust your pay because one city is more expensive or cheaper than another.
At any rate, it's not likely you are going to see two people get hired for a job and see one make more strictly because they went to a higher ranked school...at least, I've never heard of it.
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From what I've seen and heard, your analysis is correct. If a company were to offer two candidates the same type of position, the school that they went to would barely be a factor. The recruiter/manager will try to get you for as little as possible. What that number is will depend on how prepared and impactful you are in the interview and how well you negotiate. The person from the lower-ranked school may very well end up with the better pay package.
As you noted, an issue is that the person from the lesser-known school may have to work harder to get the interview (or the person from the well-known school may simply not have to work AS hard to get an interview).
"The poster above me is partly right. Outside of IB and Consulting, pay varies by all of the things mentioned above. " What are the variables for IB and Consulting?
"do companies sometimes offer different salaries to graduates from different MBA programs for the same job? "
All the good companies (top consulting/finance/tech/healthcare/etc) offer a standard salary to all MBA graduates. The reason you go to a top school is, that top companies only recruit from a handful of schools and take many more from the top 7/15 schools. Smaller companies would offer more variable salaries, I guess, but if you're going to a top MBA program you probably should work for a top company. The only exceptions I could think of are PE/HF (insanely hard to get) and start-ups.
This must be one of the most often repeated fallacies of MBA recruiting. BB banks and MBB offer a pretty standard base+bonus package but that's really it. All you have to do is look at the actual employment stats to see this. Investment Banking has a base salary range of $60k-$160k and other guaranteed comp of $20k-$135k at CBS in 2013 (2014 not yet available). Tech has a range from $65k-$240k base and $5k-$118k in other guaranteed comp. Management Consulting ranges from $90k-$200k base with $10k-$145k in other comp.
Those are some very wide dispersion of results from within a top school. I don't know where people got the idea that everybody gets the exact same comp offer but it just isn't true.
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