Mensa for Networking?
Im considering joining Mensa, I have scored that high on other IQ tests before, but I dont want to join it just to tell people (I'd feel like a dick saying that to people or having it on my resume).
The reason Im considering it is because of networking opportunities. I hear that in cities and industries (?) they have group meetups. Anyone on this ever been to one? Would it be good for IB networking in a place like NY?
If not I'll just give AA a try...
Depends, do you like solving puzzles
Why yes, of course, almost as much as making pitch books.
well why bother asking? just do it already. the more the merrier.
I feel like it would be better for networking in Academia. There's probably some members who work in finance, but I don't know if there will be enough to join solely for that reason.
It depends: do you have ass burgers?
If you join mensa, those of us who are smarter than you, meaning every half way intelligent person who has never tried to join, will make fun of you for it.
There was a very long thread on this before. You would think someone with your superior intellectual abilities would be able to use some sort of device to look up, or search for, old threads.
Mensa only requires that you be 2 standard deviations above the mean (i.e. IQ of 130). That's really not that big a deal.
Plus IQ is a really stupid subjective measure. I only scored a 148 but I'm way smarter than a friend who scored 154.
=P lol
MENSA (Originally Posted: 10/23/2008)
Is anyone a certified MENSA? I was reading about it the other day and it seems pretty much like a club of people who think they are extra intelligence. Granted they probably are pretty intelligent, is there any benefit to going this "order?"
http://www.us.mensa.org//AM/Template.cfm?Section=Home
I like taking IQ tests... not that I'm a dork or anything
Even if you joined I would not put that it on the resume. It looks kind of dorky and I would bet that the vast majority of individuals working in the industry are in the top 2% of the population as well...meaning that you would not be impressing many people.
But, if you want to join just for fun go for it. I just wouldn't go waving it around. Do that at your own risk.
the only person I know of who's mentioned mensa membership in their credentials is asia carrera
Glad you're a fan of hers, too.
if you want come off as a total douche, go ahead and mention mensa.
I'd be much more impressed with someone who graduated with honors from a rigorous undergraduate program. So the hell if you are gifted- you have couple it with hard work to make it useful.
I have a fairly high iq according to childhood tests, but I do subpar in school (but a hard school). which matters more? the latter of course.
Please stop hating Mensa members. Thanks!
Wait, so it's a club that makes you pay dues and has an IQ requirement to be able to say you belong to it? Isn't the general consensus that the conventional IQ score is hardly a measure of intelligence? Modern psychology hasn't even defined intelligence. Debate's split like 5 different ways.
Furthermore, what a lame fucking thing to brag about. That's like joining a club for tall people or white people or people with blonde hair... all of which have been successful at some point, but whatever.
Brag about your accomplishments, not your supposed genetic potential. What a bunch of duckfuckers.
It's like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y9CC_lA4n0
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Joining Mensa a good idea for job seeker? (Originally Posted: 10/22/2012)
Hello everyone,
I am currently in IT (startup that develops financial software) and looking to shift into finance in the next year or two, if all goes well! I am specifically looking for anything involving hedge funds, preferably junior trader or software developer / IT guy.
I am wondering how to beef up my resume in preparation for that, so I had the idea to join Mensa and put that on top of the resume. Does anyone think that this is a good / bad / silly idea? I think that I could get in if I studied the tests pretty hard for a couple of months.
Thanks.
good idea, but put it on the bottom of the resume with small letters you also never know who will you meet there - but they should be relatively bright people, and it is a good practice for your brain
imo, it would look very silly if it had a major spot on your CV, mention it among "training and certifications" or some other bottom part of the resume
Mentioning Mensa anywhere on your resume seems like a great way to advertise to a potential employer your (possibly debilitating) social awkwardness.
we throw good trivia nights in nyc
I wonder how bad your resume is if you are even considering this or if you are just trolling.
Gotta be a troll. If not, I'd think you were a douche if you put mensa member on your resume for an IB job.
If your GPA, test scores, and experience don't indicate that you are intelligent, I really doubt that being in some stupid club all about proclaiming how smart you are is going to help.
Animalz and Shorttheworld, thanks for your replies. I am in CT, but thanks for the tip about the NYC group's events. It certainly sounds like it's worth a train ride down to NYC to check out what's happening.
As for the rest of the replies, there must have been some mean troll drive-bys around here to make some people so tender :D.
Mensa (Originally Posted: 10/27/2012)
Would you think being a mensa member will give a non target significant advantage in breaking into MBB?
I don't think it's gonna turn a lot of heads on Wall Street, and it could seriously backfire on you. I've copied and pasted a funny story from a post in 2009 that was asking the same question you are:
HAHAHA that is awesome Eddie
I haven't laughed this hard in a while haha
Eddie, such a hilarious story, thanks for reposting :-)
Ed B: HILARIOUS STORY.
To the OP: I would seriously advise against that. I had a professionally administered IQ test in high school and all I would have had to have done is mail a few copies to these high IQ societies (Mensa et al) for membership. Of course, being the shithead that I was, I told my friends first. I'll sum up what I learned with: "Your friends don't need it and your enemies don't care."
I'm not a member in any such society. It'd put me multiple steps towards douche-dom. And I think even less of those who publicly flag it, such as on a resume, thinking they might gain some kind of public advantage. I liken it to SATs on undergrad resumes and GMATs on b-school resumes. Some folks even go as far as retaking the tests once they're in school, thinking it might give them a leg up in interviews. But I think it speaks to a serious lack of confidence in one's own track record.
Don't get me wrong, I hear McKinsey cares about this stuff. But a friend (who happened to have an astronomical gmat score, and surely IQ too) told me "the only purpose of this test is to get you into b-school. Once you're in..." And he's 100% right. What's the purpose of an IQ test? A Mensa membership? It doesn't help you with any of the prerequisites needed for breaking into Wall Street. All it does is plot you on a bell curve for non-trainable or barely-trainable cognitive abilities. And what are you supposed to do with that? It's just supposed to give you certainty that you can accomplish stuff with your mind. So go accomplish stuff.
I think it's a losing strategy.
I'd agree with the point about not putting Mensa on the resume but disagree about the analogy to SAT for undergrad resume. At my MBB firm, SAT is given some weight, albeit usually as a secondary data point.
For example, if an applicant screws up a couple calcs in the first round interview but is otherwise solid we might say 'well, what'd he get on the SAT Math?' in addition to looking at grades in quant classes. If 750+, the screw-ups will likely be pushed aside and candidate passed on to 2nd round. If sub-700, probably the nail in the coffin unless the candidate was just amazing on other dimensions.
SAT is specifically requested when applying to MBB for ugrad, so if left off the resume I will assume it's bad. I've read just over 1,000 undergrad resumes for MBB at this point and probably fewer than 10 did not list SAT.
Thank you guys for answers and nice story E.B. :)
I am just thinking about activities to engage in forthcoming year before applying to MBB that will stand my resume out.
I will be trying to obtain GMAT ~750 Have some ideas on businesses and some EC but Im afraid that this will not be enough..
Your time is much better spent building relationships with alums who will go to bat for you - even if you're non-target, there are probably people there who got in from MBA but went to your undergrad.
Probably all people from my uni went into smaller shops. I plan to to show up through linkedin but after preparing myself. At this point I dont think I have a shot.
Mensa will grant membership to anyone with a 720+ gmat score. That's half the class at top business schools.
So my question is: is listing MENSA on your resume a good/neutral thing or a bad thing? Does it give off the impression of intelligence or doucheyness?
Here is the definitive answer: being a member of MENSA is a silly thing to put on your resume, and you should not do it.
Seriously.
At business school a friend listed it on his resume. We all made fun of him.
Honestly, I feel like MENSA is a low bar to pass and not the type of thing to tout on your resume.
I would not put Mensa anywhere near my cv. I only did it to help get my college scholarship.
Shouldn't a MENSA member be smart enough to know that putting MENSA on your resume is stupid?
full disclosure: ex-member
I work in an MBB firm and it wouldn't really impress, here's why: To be in Mensa you have to be in the top 2% in IQ. However, to even get into most of the target schools, you have to be at least this good, if not better (I'd wager the average Harvard student is in the top 1% IQ-wise at the very least, and a quick "market sizing" supports this). Then, you have to be above the average at a target to get hired. Thus, it's not really impressive, and you shouldn't put it on.
To echo the guy above me, shouldn't a MENSA member be smart enough to do this math? (sorry, that was mean, I'm just messing with you)
Most of the top guys at our university were not the smart ones. They were the hard working ones who memorized stuff like crazy. Worked their asses off. Just because you have a high IQ doesn't mean you're valuable to any company.
No.
I know a guy who is part of MENSA and included the membership on his CV... he is now at GS (S&T).
What are all these hate posts about Mensa members?
Mensa word puzzle on Pinetum Partner's homepage (Originally Posted: 01/31/2014)
Hello,
A friend of mine is going through some interviews and he was speaking to someone at Pinetum. He saw a Mensa word puzzle on the homepage and couldn't figure it out. He sent it over to me, and now I can't figure it out either.
Check it out here: http://www.pinetumpartners.com/
Immediately I noticed the last column. R=2 is a given, so that is saying UV plus some number in the 20s = 2. Only one solution, UV must be a negative number. However, the problem states that only numbers 0-9 have been used. A negative number is not 0-9. Furthermore, the top row, no positive number plus another positive number multiplied by a positive number can yield a negative result.
I am at a loss. My friend doesn't care, he already moved on, but I can't. Any genius want to help? The only thing I can think of is that I am reading the problem incorrectly. I doubt Pinetum would put up an incorrect puzzle on their homepage.
Mensa is retarded.
Initially, I thought I wouldn't give two cents about this. But then I found myself in same frustrated state as OP. Seems to be an error, or just (likely) beyond my reasoning ability.
It would seem that one step would be solving for "S" since its the only variable listed by itself twice. The vertical equations tell a lot about which digits are larger. For instance, S is larger than T, U, Y, and Z.
Gonna keep at this....
Solving for last column: UV + RV = R; we know R = 2, so UV + 2V = 2. In this instance, V must equal 1, leading U = 0. However, this leads to the first row becoming 2Q + S x T = 0. With numbers equal to or greater than 3 left, I don't see how this can be solved (this is because all numbers from 0 - 9 will be used, and there are 10 letters, so each letter has a corresponding value that is not equal to any other; this is given in the puzzle description). I'm likely making a dumb error or it's just above my head.
That's the thing that confused me the most. I didn't know if it was supposed to be for ex. UV, where U = 4 and V = 6, is UV 46, or is it 24? If it's 24 then that helps out a little bit.
Took a quick look and am confused as to how it can even work.
Just looking at the bottom equation; TU + Z + S = R (2)
Given they need to be 0-9 and not 2, there's no way that those numbers can add up without being greater than 2, right?
Ugh, this makes me feel stupid...whether it's because I have no idea how to figure it out or because I was dumb enough to bother looking at it in the first place, is unclear.
Barney Stinson: "We'll call it Puzzles. Then everyone will be like 'Why did they call it Puzzles?' That's the Puzzle!"
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