Met the head of research for a BB today by complete fluke

It's weird how some things happen in life

Had to step out of the office this morning to clear my head so instead of freezing my balls off outside I opted for the couch in the lobby. The dude sitting on the other end of the couch had a serious travellers bag so I asked him if he was in sales and told me no research. We start shooting the shit about what we do, etc. Long story short we exchanged cards mid conversation but i didn't bother to read his until I left. As I'm walking back I take out his card to see whats up - Turns out he's a VP of Research for a large BB. Couldn't believe it when I left and really don't know what to do at this point with it

Any advice kiddos?

 
Cane0180:
You should say you will be in his city and ask if he wants to get a drink. If he says yes, book a plane/bus/train ticket to said city. Keep doing this every few months until he has time.

I'm going to fire him off a nice to meet you e-mail tomorrow morning since I didn't have the chance to today - Hopefully he responds and if he does I'm defiantly executing that plan

 
Cane0180:
You should say you will be in his city and ask if he wants to get a drink. If he says yes, book a plane/bus/train ticket to said city. Keep doing this every few months until he has time.

I hope this was a joke? It's not like he was an MD... even then, that's aggressive. You didn't save his kid's life you just shot the shit with him for 5 minutes.

I hate victims who respect their executioners
 
BlackHat:
Cane0180:
You should say you will be in his city and ask if he wants to get a drink. If he says yes, book a plane/bus/train ticket to said city. Keep doing this every few months until he has time.

I hope this was a joke? It's not like he was an MD... even then, that's aggressive. You didn't save his kid's life you just shot the shit with him for 5 minutes.

The point is you want to foster the relationship. It could potentially open doors for him. I've done this before, sometimes it leads to great contacts and other times it's not so helpful. Worst case is you're out travel expenses and a day of work. Ultimately if you don't take initiative and only play it safe you're going to wind up with less opportunities. Having anyone pulling for you at a place you are interested in working, in my opinion, is worth the price of admission and better than no people in your corner. So, no, it's not a joke.

 
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Cane0180:
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Cane0180:
You should say you will be in his city and ask if he wants to get a drink. If he says yes, book a plane/bus/train ticket to said city. Keep doing this every few months until he has time.

I hope this was a joke? It's not like he was an MD... even then, that's aggressive. You didn't save his kid's life you just shot the shit with him for 5 minutes.

The point is you want to foster the relationship. It could potentially open doors for him. I've done this before, sometimes it leads to great contacts and other times it's not so helpful. Worst case is you're out travel expenses and a day of work. Ultimately if you don't take initiative and only play it safe you're going to wind up with less opportunities. Having anyone pulling for you at a place you are interested in working, in my opinion, is worth the price of admission and better than no people in your corner. So, no, it's not a joke.

I'm sorry but this is not good advice. He's VP on some BB ER team. At best he's the #2 guy on said team. Keep in touch with the him via email/phone but absolutely do not pull this aggressive/stalkerish move. If you happen to be in his city for work or pleasure, then by all means reach out to meet up for a drink. Otherwise, you'll just be out hundreds, if not thousands of dollars to foster a relationship that may or may not lead to anything. You'll have the same success rate via email/phone communication, IMO.

 

Send him a link to this thread, too, so that he understands your thought process in in deciding to email him.

edit: if he's just a VP then he's not the head of anything, btw. VP is the 2nd most junior position at the entire bank.

 

Not a fluke at all my man. You took the initiative and engaged someone you didn't know. That's what it's all about.

Send an email or shoot a phone call to him and see if he wouldn't mind meeting up for a beer to chat about what he does. Take an educational approach to the whole thing but stay persistent about using him as a resource. Nice job.

 

It's not perceived to be aggressive on VP's end and it's not even close to "stalkerish." If you are that socially inept to think that OP would make it known to the VP that he is there solely for the purposes of having a beer then I understand your train of thought. My position still stands: You are in town to visit a friend and wanted to know if VP was available to grab a beer. There is no perceived aggression or weirdness about that. It is completely casual and a chance to form a relationship. This guy is not going to be a VP of ER forever, and it is still better to have someone in your corner than no one at all. In my opinion person>phone>e-mail. There is a significant difference between e-mailing a guy and spending a solid hour or two knocking back some brews.

 

Still seems odd to waste money like that on a low probablity event. I'm all about networking but you need to be within your limits. Traveling to other cities for one potential meeting is not an efficient way to go about it. If he has family/friends or even another meeting lined up, then it could be worth it. There's even a chance the guy could cancel on you last minute if something comes up (trust me, it does). I'd recommend sticking to email/phone at first and see where it takes you.

 

We will see about the little travel stunt in the future gents - I do admit it is a cool idea but if he can toss my resume to the right people from a far I'll be just as happy

I e-mailed him this morning - he hollered back within minutes and sent me a follow up e-mail apologizing for being negative on his market views from yesterday lol. Felt like I was talking with one of my buddies minus swearing or talks about Tits n Ass.

Going to holler at him again in a month or two and maybe drop the job bomb... thoughts?

 

Glad it worked out for you. I think you approached it the right way. You seem like you have a good grasp on the situation: Talk to him like a friend and then down the road ask about opportunities.

Edit: You can tell this guy is a good dude just by his follow-up e-mail apologizing for any "negative" comment he made.

 

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