MSc: LSE (Management), Imperial College (ESB) or LBS (MiM)?
Greetings
As of now, I hold offers from LSE (MSc Management) and Imperial College (Economics and Strategy for Business). I am also waiting for a reply from LBS (Master's in Management). I've done some research, but have not found a thread comparing these particular programs.
What I gather so far:
LSE - the program lasts 2 years, there is an internship in between + an opportunity to spend a term abroad in one of the CEMS universities. Also, LSE is a strong brand name.
LBS - the program resembles the school's internationally renowned MBA program, the alumni network is great, and LBS is also perceived as a strong brand
Imperial College - I personally like what I've read about the program, altough it's relatively new. During my interview I was told the program shares a lot of features with the school's MBA program.
I would appreciate any advice and ideas concerning these three options. Which one would be most favorably viewed by employers?
If I don't hear from LBS in time, which of the other two programs is more preferable?
I'm most likely to pursue a career in consulting.
If you are set on consulting, then I would advise that you go to LSE or, if they offer you a place, LBS. LSE's Management program is academically a joke (yet a lot of work), but you will get the brand name, plenty of networking opportunities, a consulting project and you can do an internship and then go on CEMS exchange.
I agree.
Go to LSE or LBS. Both have strong brandname in the City
Don't you have to meet offers or something? How did you hear back so quickly?
Go to LSE Imperial is WAY harder, and doesn't have as much name value
>>Imperial is WAY harder Could you please elaborate, is it really so hard to study there?
I'd only consider Imperial for their MSc in Finance; otherwise LSE. Very strong brand in the City.
I would pick LSE
Thank you all for your replies.
Mitt Romney, what do you mean by "so quickly"? I applied to Imperial on March 4th, had interview on April 26th, got offer on April 29th. I have about 1.5 months to accept it. LSE began considering my application on March 27th, I got the offer on May 1st. There is no hard deadline for accepting the offer. I applied to LBS on Tuesday (April 29th).
Out of the two I would go with imperial simply because you would be in the business school and have a dedicated career service whereas you would pretty much be on your own at LSE. But anyways those are the two best London unis so you can't really go wrong honestly.
LSE got back to you pretty quickly. They took almost three months to get back to me (I got in, but declined). Most unprofessional university I ever applied to...
What about these programs regarding placement into IBD?
Hi, I have ESB interview tomorrow! I attended the program presentation and it seems really good. Any comments about the interview?
Hey there I wouldn't worry about the interview, it's pretty trivial stuff, all you need to do is to show you are a half-coherent individual. Apart from obvious questions along the lines of "why the school, why the program", expect questions about the global economic situation ( I got asked about challenges for China for the next 10 years and about the influence of the global financial crisis on the appeal of the IB profession) and about strategy (I was asked to define strategy and to elaborate on my notions of an efficient strategy). From what I hear, questions don't vary that much. I believe, there can also be some about mergers and acquisitions (like 'what do you think about a merger between companies A and B), but that's it.
Hope that helps.
To future WSOers reading this thread (as I go to class with some of the above, who are great people):
I'm an ESB student, so I'll chime in.
Placement across all top London graduate programs really isn't as great as they make it seem, no matter Imperial, LSE or Oxbridge. I actually turned down an Oxbridge program to go to Imperial ESB as I wanted to do a strategy course over a finance course.
The Imperial career service is not really an advantage unless you are pretty incompetent on preparing yourself. There were some cool benefits like having our CV's reviewed by Bain HR and consultants one on one.
IMHO the ESB program could be better, but having sat in on many others at LBS and LSE this is pretty standard for UK grad programs. That said Imperial's new dean is putting in a huge effort to bring the business school to top global standards. I have no doubt that the degree will be far more prestigious in a few years. The program has already gotten exponentially more selective (from an already very exceptional group). The incoming class will likely be the last of the larger classes as the school begins moving towards a more American style class size for discussions.
Now even though LBS is probably the best business school name on that list for you the most important part is the degree program. MSc Management is pretty useless, especially if you have a business/econ degree already (which if you got into ESB you do). MBA programs will also potentially hold it against you later in your career (according to Fortuna Admissions). ESB is not a management program and tends to compliment your undergrad (it does share a lot of features of the MBA program, but who cares?). At the same time ESB will not place better than an MSc Management, although a boutique consultancies do heavily recruit from ESB.
Also as my final note. If you want to stand a realistic chance of getting into a consultancy in London, no matter what school you attend, you need to start practicing now. There are so many incredibly candidates that it comes down to pure luck. LBS/LSE/Imperial will probably get you an interview with at least 1 of the MBB. That will probably be your only shot (without networking of course). If you are not from the UK be very prepared for a hard case interview and a very different working style from the US.
Best of luck!
Well that's a pretty tough choice, all the 3 schools are pretty well known & prestigious. I have some fair knowledge about the MiM at LBS and LSE, so i can give my 2 cents about them. Also in my view LSE and LBS have a more established MiM program over Imperial, so i think that automatically puts them above Imperial, but then thats my view point.
Well as for LSE and LBS, these are the differences according to what ive found:
1) LBS is a fast paced 1 year program while LSE is a more theoretical 2 year program. In fact LSE describes its MiM program as "unshamedly academic" and touts it as a program to build a sound business foundation. 2) LBS costs around around 27500 pounds while LSE is a total of almost 50000 pounds, of course it is a 1 year vs 2 year program 3) LBS core values are more towards leadership and dynamism while LSE preaches a more in depth critical thinking approach as can be observed via its core value "Analyzing the cause of things" 4) Base Salary of 36,295PS & 97% accepted a Job offer within 3 months of graduation for LBS 86% in work/further study 6 months after graduation & 38,100 pounds avg salary for LSE
So in conclusion if you are looking for a faster way to get a good business education and get into the industry - LBS is a good choice, while f you want to build a strong business foundation and don't mind a more in-depth 2 year course LSE would be optimal.
As for getting into strategy consulting, don't worry. All top consulting companies recruit from both LSE and LBS, its a really great way to enter the consulting sector. Hope the answer helped. You can google "MiM-Essay" for more detailed reviews about the schools, as well as info on how to crack their admission process.
I totally agree with everything you stated.
I'll just add a very important point: If the student is targeint BB IB or MBB, the 2-year GMiM at LSE offers him the opportunity to tune in his profile/CV by completing a summer internship.
You'll never receive a full-time offer if you've not done a summer internship beforehand at one of these firms. One has to seriously think about that when enrolling to LBS MiM.
LBS MiM's employment reports often indicates, year after year, approximately 11 BCG/8 McKinsey/8 Bain/4 Goldman/2 Deutsche recruited students. Bear in mind that those students already graduated from undergraduate full-target schools in their home countries (MiM class: 90% international students) and already had a couple of summer internships and/or off-cycles at BB banks and MBB consulting firms (WU Vienna in Austria; Science Po Paris and ESSEC in France; the top business school in Poland - forgot its name; StGallen in Switzerland; etc.).
I personally had long conversations with various Senior Admission Directors for LBS Early Career Programs, on several occasions in the past 24 months, exclusively face-to-face. It enables me to confirm to our dear readers out there that LBS MiM, unlike its MBA counterpart, will never grant you an MBB full-time offer in one of their UK offices if you're not british. If you're a EU student, you'll be automatically advised and redirected to apply at your home country's office. Don't get me wrong, you can still get into consulting in London, but definitely not MBB.
That may be another story for LSE. I don't quite have the same overwhelmingly strong official feedback I had over the years from LBS (and I thank them tremendously for their communication efforts), but the possibility of completing a summer internship at an MBB in London might change the location employment prospects. Note: a friend of mine did a random Master at LSE. He got a 6-months internship at BCG in London, despite having a very average english proficiency. I couldn't believe myself.
(General info. Not necessarily related to OP).
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