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6/15/11

Looking for a new Laptop (currently on a MacBook) and I'd appreciate some help.

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6/17/11

Maybe you guys are right. But all I do on my computer is work. It's literally a typewriter with a TV screen as far as I'm concerned.

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6/17/11

Macs are by far better computers, and the price argument is moot. When I can run OSX on a PC, then we can start talking about price (and when you take into account quality of components, quality construction, etc. you're not really overpaying by as much as you think even if you disregard the difference in OS).

Yes, Excel on Macs sucks, but you can run Parallels or VMWare and run Windows and OSX simultaneously (if you're going to be doing this a lot, make sure you max out your ram and processors to the most you can afford).

I use my mac for work, and run Windows 7 in Parallels. Being able to run both OS's at the same time is amazingly convenient and productive. I just use Windows for the Office suite. If Microsoft made their versions of Office 100% identical for Mac relative to PC, well then they'd lose so much market share so fast it would make people's heads spin...

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6/17/11

another vote for the x220. Best laptop screen in the market (one of only ones out there with an IPS screen) and can be had with i7 and 9 cell for ~$900 if you find the right discount.

If you want to go the mac route, id recommend the macbook air but wait a few months for the new model to come out which will have sandybridge processors

In reply to Edmundo Braverman
6/17/11

Edmundo Braverman:
Maybe you guys are right. But all I do on my computer is work. It's literally a typewriter with a TV screen as far as I'm concerned.

What's a typewriter?

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6/17/11

http://shop.lenovo.com/us/products/laptops/thinkpa...

+1

This is the only PC that I would buy over a macbook. I'm thinking about getting one next year and running a 2nd OS...OSX on it if I ever get macbook sick...:)

In reply to OMS
6/17/11

oldmansacks:
http://shop.lenovo.com/us/products/laptops/thinkpa...

+1

This is the only PC that I would buy over a macbook. I'm thinking about getting one next year and running a 2nd OS...OSX on it if I ever get macbook sick...:)

why would you go for the X1 over the X220? x220 has the ips matte screen vs glossy TN on the X1 and x220 battery life crushes X1 battery life. sure its a little thinner and sexier but imo not a reason to choose it over the x220.

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  •  6/17/11

^Sheeeit is the X series better than the T series? I just dropped 1200 on a t420...

In reply to NuevoBanker
6/17/11

NuevoBanker:
sony vaio z series

great performance, very good battery life, solid-state-drive, lightweight

++

Best laptop you can get for your money.

1080p resolution screen in a 13 inch form factor. Great if you need to work on models or browse websites without scrolling every 2 seconds. Doesn't run too hot, great keyboard.

You pay a premium, but it's worth it.

In reply to Tracer
6/18/11

Tracer:
NuevoBanker:
sony vaio z series

great performance, very good battery life, solid-state-drive, lightweight

++

Best laptop you can get for your money.

1080p resolution screen in a 13 inch form factor. Great if you need to work on models or browse websites without scrolling every 2 seconds. Doesn't run too hot, great keyboard.

You pay a premium, but it's worth it.

vaio Z is a solid laptop but its super expensive for the specs. SSD is nice sure but you can add an SSD to any other laptop for around $200

6/18/11

X series is a lot more portable than the other Thinkpad series - 3lbs versus 4+

The x220 has two downsides though - no optical drive & no option to get a discrete graphics card. However, you can get an external drive for $40 online if you ever need it. The lack of graphics card sucks - limits gaming if you're gonna use your laptop for that. Especially when the laptop has such good options for CPUs & harddrive.

I don't like the old school look of the computer - but the battery, the screen and the weight are great for portability. At home, you can hook up the laptop to a big screen TV for true 1080p viewing in anycase (Also great for working on excel).

You can still get the American Express deal on Slickdeals .. just search for X220 and use the code / link provided.

Another computer I was thinking about - Toshiba Portege - slightly larger 13.3 screen and it has an optical drive - older 5400 rpm hard drive & slightly lower i5 sandy bridge processor versus the i7 and 7200 rpm drive on the x220. That costs around $800 as well - I decided to pay the extra $100 or so for the 15hr battery, the i7 cpu and the lighter computer.

6/18/11

The best bang for your buck is Sager Notebooks (with performance in mind). A $1400 Sager goes for $2300+ on Dell, HP, etc.

They're not designed for portability. They're performance laptops, and easily the best quality:price you can find on the market.

I bought a Sager NP8690 - Core i7, Ati 5870 for $1400 on a 15" laptop back in August. The only way to get a better deal is to build a desktop (you can get much better performance for that price - laptops aren't meant to be powerhouses).

If you're looking for amazing performance for a low price, check them out. I went through XoticPC and haven't had any issues or complaints.

6/18/11
6/18/11

I have had terrible experiences with sager, btw

In reply to eyeofthundarra
6/18/11

eyeofthundarra:
I have had terrible experiences with sager, btw

Oh really? What happened? I didn't buy through sager - I went through XoticPC & their service is awesome.

In reply to happypantsmcgee
6/19/11

happypantsmcgee:
I agree with the colored gentleman above me.

LMAO

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6/19/11

Am I the only one who uses Linux? I have been a computer geek since the 7th grade and have been using Linux ever since. Linux is far faster than apple.

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In reply to eokpar02
6/19/11

eokpar02:
Am I the only one who uses Linux? I have been a computer geek since the 7th grade and have been using Linux ever since. Linux is far faster than apple.

I converted my old Dell laptop to Linux, and I like it a lot. Wouldn't take much to convert me to full-time Linux use.

6/19/11

I have a MacBook Pro at home for internet browsing / audio engineering, but as everyone else has said, it sucks for excel / other work-related stuff.

That being said, you'll get plenty acquainted with your work computer (which will probably be a Windows if you're in finance/consulting) so it's always nice to have a change when you come how.

Just to throw a wrench in everything --- I managed to get my hands on one of the new Google Chrome laptops. Honestly, if all you use your home computer for is browsing / email / word and other basic tasks, definitely give the Google laptops a look. They're ridiculously fast, sleek, and hassle free, with automatic updates to pretty much everything. I have a MacBook Pro now, but my next set-up is definitely going to be iMac (for audio engineering) + Google laptop (for day-to-day stuff)

6/19/11

For a forum about Wall Street and finance, you guys sound like a bunch of fucking hippies. Anyone who knows jackshit about computers will tell you that a high-end Windows laptop is a better value than a Macbook Pro. Thinkpads, the high-end HP Pavilions, Sagers, and Clevos will run laps around a Macbook Pro. Plus Windows 7 is pretty equivalent to OS X, except that it's not gay.

In reply to Chillguy
6/19/11

Chillguy:
For a forum about Wall Street and finance, you guys sound like a bunch of fucking hippies. Anyone who knows jackshit about computers will tell you that a high-end Windows laptop is a better value than a Macbook Pro. Thinkpads, the high-end HP Pavilions, Sagers, and Clevos will run laps around a Macbook Pro. Plus Windows 7 is pretty equivalent to OS X, except that it's not gay.

Didn't know your opinion was the end all be all. Thanks Zeus

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In reply to bfin
6/20/11

blackfinancier:
Chillguy:
For a forum about Wall Street and finance, you guys sound like a bunch of fucking hippies. Anyone who knows jackshit about computers will tell you that a high-end Windows laptop is a better value than a Macbook Pro. Thinkpads, the high-end HP Pavilions, Sagers, and Clevos will run laps around a Macbook Pro. Plus Windows 7 is pretty equivalent to OS X, except that it's not gay.

Didn't know your opinion was the end all be all. Thanks Zeus

No problem, I'm just glad to enlighten all of you. Sure I overreacted a bit, but I think the OP needs to do a bit more research before he jumps on the Apple bandwagon.

In reply to Chillguy
6/20/11

Chillguy:
blackfinancier:
Chillguy:
For a forum about Wall Street and finance, you guys sound like a bunch of fucking hippies. Anyone who knows jackshit about computers will tell you that a high-end Windows laptop is a better value than a Macbook Pro. Thinkpads, the high-end HP Pavilions, Sagers, and Clevos will run laps around a Macbook Pro. Plus Windows 7 is pretty equivalent to OS X, except that it's not gay.

Didn't know your opinion was the end all be all. Thanks Zeus

No problem, I'm just glad to enlighten all of you. Sure I overreacted a bit, but I think the OP needs to do a bit more research before he jumps on the Apple bandwagon.


The apple bandwagon is comfortable and if he doesn't care about price (as many in finance don't within reason) then Apple is a great out of the box solution for someone who doesn't know about computers.

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In reply to Chillguy
6/20/11

Chillguy:
For a forum about Wall Street and finance, you guys sound like a bunch of fucking hippies. Anyone who knows jackshit about computers will tell you that a high-end Windows laptop is a better value than a Macbook Pro. Thinkpads, the high-end HP Pavilions, Sagers, and Clevos will run laps around a Macbook Pro. Plus Windows 7 is pretty equivalent to OS X, except that it's not gay.

For a chill guy you sure get awfully worked up about nothing.

People tend to think life is a race with other people. They don't realize that every moment they spend sprinting towards the finish line is a moment they lose permanently, and a moment closer to their death.

6/20/11

Thinkpad X1, T420S, T420

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6/20/11

I love my macbook pro but I hate that Microsoft screwed over MS Office for Mac with a version of Excel that cant do macros and No Access. Yes, I like full function bash away. I'd say Sony has some good stuff and windows 7 is great from the few times I have used it.

Or you can be retro (thats still in I think) and get a Dell. "Dude, I'm getting a Dell"

Also, is gateway still out there?

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In reply to Edmundo Braverman
6/20/11

Edmundo Braverman:
Fuck that noise. You won't find a better deal than this brand new Windows 7 laptop for $279.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtool...

Thanks for this. My sh*t hard-drive just crashed on me. About to order it tonight.

6/20/11

Gateway is still there but they have pretty poor build quality. I suppose you get more for your money through gateway (cheap), but theres a huge chance of hardware failing.

6/21/11

disclaimer: been using macs since hs. as far as work related apps are concerned, nothing will beat a windows computer. sure you can dual boot a mac, which i considered, but the money i'd blow on new software (finding reliable cracked keys is a bitch) woulda cost pretty close to a new laptop.

i must must say something about the build quality of my macbookpro though. it dropped from 4 ft on its side and there's a huge dent on it (dumbass i know), but everything still works and can still burn discs. if that happened with my plastic lenovo im sure the chassis wouldve shattered.

In reply to Dream Shake
6/21/11

Dream Shake:

i must must say something about the build quality of my macbookpro though. it dropped from 4 ft on its side and there's a huge dent on it (dumbass i know), but everything still works and can still burn discs. if that happened with my plastic lenovo im sure the chassis wouldve shattered.

That's because it's a shoddy consumer Lenovo notebook and not a Thinkpad

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6/21/11
6/21/11

Team high-end Windows laptop. By the way: Vaio comes loaded with crap-ware, the removal of which is rather hairy. I use a small business laptop from Dell. It's got a solid-state drive, is a speed demon, and if one prefers, can weigh as little 3-4lbs.

I always felt that Dell was a terrible brand - the regular brand laptops always fizzled out within a year - but then some geeks directed me towards the small business section. If you don't want to spend the extra cash and are willing to give up certain customizations, there is also a refurbished section.

6/21/11

I recently bought a Lenovo Thinkpad W520 + screen and discrete graphics upgrade after a couple months of research and waiting for the sandy bridge refresh.

I switched away from Macs after 9 years of loyal overpaying. Fact is, lack of dedicated page up/page down/ home/end keys is a dealbreaker if you work in excel, bootcamp and parallels not withstanding. Yeah you can hook up a keyboard to a macbook pro or an extra keypad but that's dumb if the point is portability.

For a long time OSX had a clear edge over Windows XP/Vista - but with Windows 7, quite frankly the gap has closed. If you are trained to navigate files / folders completely with keyboard, Windows is far more productive.

Vast majority of windows laptops skimp on build quality in order to bring down costs, which is why they don't compare well with Macbook pros. I'd say Lenovo thinkpad series is the exception here - designed for the business pro, overall build quality is very high and you'll still come in 20-30% cheaper than a comparable mac. Great for work, good enough for semi-serious gaming.

I wrote a more in depth review here a couple weeks ago:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/lenovo-ibm/573550-...

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6/21/11

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