Oxford MBA (Said Business School) Worth It for US Jobs?
Hi All,
I was wondering if Oxford's MBA program is worth it if you wanted to use it to get Finance jobs in the U.S.? I see it's only one year which is beneficial.
Thanks.
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A top business school in the US would be smarter if your intent on heading Stateside.
The Oxford school is more globally recognized, and if you plan on going to some weird locations (Africa, Middle East, Far East) it'll pay off. Otherwise, AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!
Thanks. Any more advice?
the oxford mba isnt very well regarded in europe, its all pretty crappy in the rankings(altough no1 rly cares about those). Don't know about the US.
Just stick with LBS if anything
Said Business is highly regarded in Europe so I dont know what youre talking about. But if youre looking UK for an MBA, I'd consider Judge Business as well and obviously LBS
Hi, I am a current Oxford MBA student and can help shed some light on your query. The Oxford MBA is incredible well renowned worldwide so it will definitely be an asset if you intend to apply for Finace jobs in US. As someone once told me, "the Oxford Brand gets stronger the farther away from UK you get".
You should also note that depending on your nationality there might be additional visa hurdles you may have to face to work in the US.
The Oxford MBA offers Finance I as a core elective and a host of other financial classes as electives. The full list can be found here http://www.sbs.ox.ac.uk/degrees/mba/electives/Pages/default.aspx
I am at Oxford Said Business School now and absolutely love it. Hope that helps :-)
LBA has a 2 years MBA whereas Oxford has a one year MBA i believe. That reduces the cost as well. Besides, OXford as brand can not be taken lightly. LBS is better but Said is no smaller feat.
INSEAD and LBS, maybe IMD
I should mention that Oxford is currently 16th on the Financial Times' ranking of MBA programs, and the program has a short history having been founded in the 90's (versus decades of other schools MBA program existence).
In addition, Oxford's program apparently has the highest rate of satisfaction as measured by surveys of post-graduates. The program also allows students to go on business trips to specific areas during their spring break and in the past have visited Silicon Valley and Wall Street (amongst other areas such as China, Africa and India). So you will get a chance to network with American professionals if you want.
The new dean, Peter Tufano, was #2 at HBS, and has already put his mark on the school. It is his stated belief that Oxford-SBS has all of the pieces in place to be the best in the world.
I attended before Peter took over, but chose between CBS, INSEAD, LBS and HEC-Paris as I was Europe-based at the time. With the exception of Harvard, the brand name is the very best in the world. Given the size of the alumni pool, I have found that the network is very tight and helpful -- think Tuck or maybe Yale SOM from that perspective.
Sounds good. CompBanker mentioned however that British degrees aren't as strong here though because the old timers don't identify with them as much as the younger people in Finance. The old timer who is doing the hiring however may not be too keen on it. Any thoughts?
"British" degrees aren't as strong here -- or maybe recognized anyway. It's like saying "Boston" degrees aren't as strong here. No, BU, BC, Northeastern, etc. aren't top programs, and therefore shouldn't be used to paint HBS and Sloan.
Oxford and Cambridge hit far above their actual rankings. My point here and above is that while Oxbridge doesn't yet have the size of alumni base to open doors for you everywhere (but it can in some cases), they are prestigious enough names that they won't close any doors either.
Moving from Oxford straight to working in US? (Originally Posted: 02/08/2012)
Dear all,
I am currently a second year student from Oxford studying a bachelors in Physics and already have had an internship in the City in London. I would ideally like to work in America straight away but don't know if Oxford is considered a target university for hedge fund and investment banks or if it just is plain impossible to start working straight away in the US. What would you recommend i do? I was thinking that i could do graduate studies in a US target school (M7), would that work better for US employers?
With only rare exceptions any MBA worth getting in the US expects work experience. If you have good marks at Oxford and internship experience I would imagine you can get a look from US employers. Another analyst at the fund I work for is a Brit who came over straight after (non-Oxbridge) undergrad. What sort of internship do you have lined up?
fellow Oxford alum. I've never pursued it myself but I would imagine it would be difficult to break into employment anywhere if you havent studied there (general rule). Obviously, there is no reason not to try but using the leverage from a top US university is probably the way to go. Its certainly the direction I'm headed.
What college were you at?
FinancialNoviceII has it right, depends entirely on which college your at. I've heard BBs won't even look at you unless you went to a target college (Ch Ch, Magdalen, Brasenose, Merton, Johns etc)
As an ex-student of both Cam and Ox, and with experience in the US too, I can say that Ox lives off its name far more than Cam. For quant subjects, there is little doubt the standard at Ox is way below what would be expected from any US target. If it is a quant job you wish to get in the US, of course try it, just keep in mind that a 'first' from Oxford is a bit of a joke compared to the liberal arts training that they provide in the quant subjects in US colleges.
The only reason Ox gets recognised in the US is because of the Rhodes, which is one of the, if not the hardest, scholarships to get. People automatically associate an Ox grad as being just as good as the Rhodes when often the Rhodes far outperform the Ox graduates (a Rhodes friend of mine did his Ox PhD in 11 months, a bit of a joke according to him).
But with Oxford and the accent (even if you are cockney) you'll get girls no doubt. Incidentally, if you need the accent and your degree to pick up girls, you're a douchebag.
Just from my experience folks.
putcallparity - The only place where your college matters is alumni recruiters, full stop. Recruiters are clearly more inclined to choose alumni from their colleges simply because small talk is easier at the interview.
If I say Brasenose (David Cameron's college, good for politics-y subjects) to an associate at JPM in SF, they won't know the difference between it and say LMH (a shit college for non Oxford folk around here).
I'm in Brasenose. So that does mean that i still have a shot in BB's and won't be completely disadvantaged against US candidates (if i come straight from undergrad)?
If you're in Brasenose, I recommend you talk to the bust of Paul Gladwell. I've heard he has experience on foreign shores.
ruvermillion. Why don't you try first then let us know of your experiences? If you're in physics I hope you can understand
P(getting into US BB's|not applied) = 0 P(getting into US BB's|applied) > 0
Please don't cry.
1) I had never heard of Brasenose before this thread and I expect that's true for statistically all Americans.
2) People have recommended grad school but before you make those plans go to the b-school forum. It is not realistic to expect to go to a worth-while American MBA program without work experience and MSFs usefulness varies depending on the program, your background, and your interests.
3) More info on your upcoming internship and what sort of job you're looking for would help.
Kids just don't listen huh Kenny.
Listen ruvermillion, your Oxford college is exactly equivalent to the US frat/sors - people rarely give a shit outside the country. Harvard, Yale and Princeton have colleges. Did you know that? Nope. Would you care? Only if you were also at HYP.
maximumlikelihood: why are you acting like such a complete douchebag?
Because he didn't go to Brasenose like me and my man ruvermillion.
Okay guys I think I might be the right person to comment on this.
I am an american studying at Oxbridge right now. I have a BB SA offer.
As far as colleges, no one in the us gives a shit or even knows bout the college system. Merton Brasenose christchurch is just as good as LMH or st antonys in the US because no one knows shit.
However, Oxford carries big weight, a lot of which, as noted before, comes because of Rhodes.
I don' think getting an offer would be that hard, you just have to be very proactive with networking. People will pay attention to emails because you are at Oxford.
Also, you could always start in London and move over.
BTW at my bb one of my interviewers was from Oxford and transferred from london to NYC after 2 years.
Cheers mate
Could an Oxbridge B-school graduate find work at London hedge funds? Is this location only a problem for US jobs?
Of course, you've the geographical advantage. Exactly, this is just a problem for US jobs. The UK, as much as we love it, is simply another foreign country to the Americans.
Especially now that they want to 'decouple' from Europe.
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