Is it me or does everyone feel like America is just up for grabs and don't give two shits about it? I am from a homogeneous country and there is definitely more of a sense of solidarity. Due to the immigrant nature of this country, it seems like the only people who really care about the outcome of this country are a bunch of rednecks and some middle class white people. Your thoughts?
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Patriotism could be dangerous. People claim the US is an imperialist country already. I care about the US/Canada continuing to do well (I'm not white). I also believe the they have the best social, and political system in the world. I believe in our values, our policies and our system. I believe the US and Canada are the two most progressive countries in the world by a long shot. Whatever they're doing it's working for people from all over the globe to come to here. It seems to be working pretty well so far.
How so?
Best social system? Dude in Australia/NZ (where I'm from) university education costs ~1/10 of a degree in the US and provides a comparable education (look at world university rankings) and healthcare is essentially free. I follow US politics pretty closely and am actually quite right-leaning and think that the US can't afford/shouldn't have Obamacare etc so I'm not saying the US should have the ACA or anything, but saying America has one of the best social systems of the world (in terms of a social safety net) is pretty false....
Shh, intelligence has no place in this thread. Let the trolls pontificate.
Fair comment - factually true, but you're missing an important point...there is a strong social safety net and I'd bet that the poor enjoy a much better quality of life in Australia than in the US because the wealthier pick up the slack tax-wise (regarding healthcare, education and everything in between) - so you can't say America has the best social system by any means. Shit, even Australia's is bad compared to some European countries (where, admittedly, things are "tax-subsidized" as you say- doesn't change the fact America has a relatively weak social system in many ways).
Irks* not erks
By social I meant the ability for so many different cultures to live together in peace. Don't tell me there's murders, etc. Canada has one of the lowest murder rates in the world, the US is a big country (3rd largest pop) and everyone has a gun so it's a lot harder to control there. Compared to India and China, two somewhat comparable nations in size and population, the murder rate is miniscule. That's what I meant by social. And as for social services, again, Canada has one of the best in the world.
What the hell is happening to this forum.
Dude, 100% agree. Like between these posts, the racism posts and the how many sex partners makes you a slut posts, I think we have an influx of 14 year old international virgins posting on here.
OP: why, just why? as much as I hate the threads about something like "should I wear this tie to my SA interview even though it's Hermes?" this is so much worse. I'm a patriot, but no one on this forum cares, so stop it.
I've met plenty of patriotic immigrants/minorities in the US. They just don't get a ton of media attention but they are there. It's logical that somebody that originally came from a dangerous or just plain unpleasant place and made it to the US where they developed a good life for themselves will give a shit about the country and institution that made it all possible.
I'm pretty patriotic. You wouldn't think it though. Don't even know why I'm posting this.
I laugh at people that think any government gives them things because the government cares about the people.
"I laugh at people that think any government gives them things because the government cares about the people."
True.
A liberal muslim homosexual ACLU lawyer professor and abortion doctor was teaching a class on Karl Marx, known atheist
”Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship Marx and accept that he was the most highly-evolved being the world has ever known, even greater than Jesus Christ!”
At this moment, a brave, patriotic, pro-life Navy SEAL champion who had served 1500 tours of duty and understood the necessity of war and fully supported all military decision made by the United States stood up and held up a rock.
”How old is this rock, pinhead?”
The arrogant professor smirked quite Jewishly and smugly replied “4.6 billion years, you stupid Christian”
”Wrong. It’s been 5,000 years since God created it. If it was 4.6 billion years old and evolution, as you say, is real… then it should be an animal now”
The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and copy of Origin of the Species. He stormed out of the room crying those liberal crocodile tears. The same tears liberals cry for the “poor” (who today live in such luxury that most own refrigerators) when they jealously try to claw justly earned wealth from the deserving job creators. There is no doubt that at this point our professor, DeShawn Washington, wished he had pulled himself up by his bootstraps and become more than a sophist liberal professor. He wished so much that he had a gun to shoot himself from embarrassment, but he himself had petitioned against them!
The students applauded and all registered Republican that day and accepted Jesus as their lord and savior. An eagle named “Small Government” flew into the room and perched atop the American Flag and shed a tear on the chalk. The pledge of allegiance was read several times, and God himself showed up and enacted a flat tax rate across the country.
The professor lost his tenure and was fired the next day. He died of the gay plague AIDS and was tossed into the lake of fire for all eternity.
Semper Fi. p.s. close the borders
This is my all-time favorite internet thing. "An eagle named 'Small Government'" makes me laugh every time.
Something good came of this awful thread.
Lol, nice
Only value in this thread is the @"Nouveau Richie" post. I wish I could give it more than one SB.
Sorry that the USA doesn't provide club med accommodations for the poor like Greece and the rest of the world.
The poor have plenty of program to help them. The rich also pay the majority of the taxes here. And anyone coming out of undergrad with six figure debt is their own fault.
In reality the majority of students have 25k or less in debt. Free education also doesn't mean better outcome. Europe provides low cost, tax payer subsidized education and they also have massive youth unemployment.
Some people choose a country based on how comfy the bottom is. I'd choose country on how high the top can go.
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Well put. Most of us will very likely never make it to the top. But I'd take this system over any other.
Fuck poor people. Literally. That should be a program for single mothers to earn food stamps. That's the kind of government program I could get behind.
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