Possible to transition from attorney to hedge fund?

Hey everyone, I'm brand new here so hopefully this hasn't been covered before. I've spent the better part of a decade practicing M&A law. I recently moved to Boston and am looking for work/considering options. I've been trading forever and my portfolio is about 60% currencies, 40% equities/options. I have no educational background in finance, but obviously am familiar with a fair amount from my job and trading activities.

My question is, given my background, is it possible for me to transition careers to work for a hedge fund? If so, what type of position should I apply for/what's the best approach to market myself?

Thanks.

 

Look into event driven trading firms. Particularly those that specialize in "risk Arbitrage". Basically you speculate on whether or not m&a goes through or not. Given your m&a background I'm sure you have an expertise in understanding anti trust issues , and can pick up the rest on the job. Banks have units that do this too for clients

 
Fuwuyuan:

Look into event driven trading firms. Particularly those that specialize in "risk Arbitrage". Basically you speculate on whether or not m&a goes through or not. Given your m&a background I'm sure you have an expertise in understanding anti trust issues , and can pick up the rest on the job. Banks have units that do this too for clients

Second this, I think this is one of the few strategies where your skills would be directly transferable.

 

Clint Carlson started his career as a lawyer; now he has a $10bn multi-strategy fund. Merger arbitrage is the most logical move for you (also what Carlson did). With the pick-up in deal activity, now's not a terrible time to try to go for it. Non-M&A event driven investing is in the dumps right now, but analyzing corporate actions is easier for someone with a legal background.

Firms are desperate for compliance lawyers with all the new regulations, but I've never heard of someone transitioning from compliance to investment. In fact, its likely far easier to move from M&A law to investing than it is to move from compliance to investing. I would not recommend moving into compliance unless you are sure that you want to do compliance.

 

Thanks everyone. The risk arbitrage concept is intriguing. I've got a couple of in-house counsel interviews lined up so I'll see how those pan out while I consider my options.

I apologize in advance if this sounds ridiculous, but what about having a conventional legal job and then creating a hedge fund on the side which I could hopefully grow organically? The "problem" I have is that several acquaintances have asked me to invest on their behalf. While I consider that a compliment, it's not worth the headache as I'd end up paying taxes on their gains and it'd be a shit show if I ever lost money. Not sure if it'd be less of a headache to formalize, but I'm sure you guys can weigh in on that lol.

 

I would think it is nearly impossible to manage and grow a hedge fund on the side while dealing with a full time legal job... as a lawyer you are better positioned to understand the legal requirements of managing other people's money than I am, and my head hurts just thinking about the paperwork you'd be dealing with. I would say if you want to start a hedge fund, go work for a hedge fund first to see how they operate from the inside, then start your own once you are ready to fully commit to it and have partners lined up to complement your legal skillset.

 

I spent about 2 years practicing corporate and financial services law. Similar background to yours in terms of trading - I have been managing a portfolio for about 10 years now (maibly equities though) I guess it took me about 7-8 months to find a role as an analyst within the Asset Management space so it could definitely happen but your legal experience will be largely discredited by most. There are some of us out here though so I'd be happy to help, if possible.

 
Best Response

I'm at a global L/S value fund (mostly equities but we dabble in credit as well). One of our junior analysts was an M&A lawyer for 3 or 4 years before moving into the hedge fund space so it's certainly possible. However he did an MBA between being a lawyer and coming to work for us so it is hard to say if he could have made the transition without that and just his legal background. You would be surprised where legal expertise can come in helpful even in more mundane L/S strategies.

I would argue against the "take a compliance job then lateral" route. There is a pretty large divide between investing roles and supporting roles at most funds. None of our back office personnel are ever included in meetings where investments are discussed or research reviewed so it's not like you have the opportunity to impress the PM with your thoughts/knowledge. I think you will find it very difficult to transition from general counsel to an investment role.

 

There are certain funds that hire lawyers specifically, largely are focused on distressed situations and are highly litigious. Aurelius is a good example of a large established one, but there are several others that are smaller and up and coming (e.g. Mudrick has had a great year, Marble Ridge just launched). You can definitely break in but need to start learning actual fundamental investing. The fact you've had a PA is modestly relevant, but in reality I don't think anyone really cares

 

Just spoke with a MD at the a large SSG/distressed fund. His background is M&A law. He said as you spend more time at the firm the lawyers and finance guys roles begin to blend together. His title was never general counsel though.

 

You'll likely be too swamped to get involved on the investing side - especially if it's at a very large fund. I would ask the fund exactly what they expect from you. As for sharing in the upside, that depends on the negotiation on your package - independent of your role description

 

Rerum est omnis dolor ab nobis non est. Numquam ducimus reprehenderit asperiores nulla alias aut. Rerum totam sunt veritatis corrupti. Excepturi quo eveniet mollitia dolorum nam.

Atque ea assumenda optio in aut. Expedita repellendus et omnis omnis.

Aut cum facilis sequi non accusamus voluptatem excepturi tempore. Ab velit quo recusandae possimus. Veritatis et iure et enim aut ut. Omnis et quidem veniam sunt est.

Enim ut doloremque qui occaecati. Illo adipisci enim sit. Omnis vitae nostrum iusto et soluta consequuntur. Expedita asperiores eum maiores harum odit. Praesentium eum et autem qui quia.

Career Advancement Opportunities

April 2024 Hedge Fund

  • Point72 98.9%
  • D.E. Shaw 97.9%
  • Citadel Investment Group 96.8%
  • Magnetar Capital 95.8%
  • AQR Capital Management 94.7%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

April 2024 Hedge Fund

  • Magnetar Capital 98.9%
  • D.E. Shaw 97.8%
  • Blackstone Group 96.8%
  • Two Sigma Investments 95.7%
  • Citadel Investment Group 94.6%

Professional Growth Opportunities

April 2024 Hedge Fund

  • AQR Capital Management 99.0%
  • Point72 97.9%
  • D.E. Shaw 96.9%
  • Magnetar Capital 95.8%
  • Citadel Investment Group 94.8%

Total Avg Compensation

April 2024 Hedge Fund

  • Portfolio Manager (9) $1,648
  • Vice President (23) $474
  • Director/MD (12) $423
  • NA (6) $322
  • 3rd+ Year Associate (24) $287
  • Manager (4) $282
  • Engineer/Quant (71) $274
  • 2nd Year Associate (30) $251
  • 1st Year Associate (73) $190
  • Analysts (225) $179
  • Intern/Summer Associate (22) $131
  • Junior Trader (5) $102
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (250) $85
notes
16 IB Interviews Notes

“... there’s no excuse to not take advantage of the resources out there available to you. Best value for your $ are the...”

Leaderboard

1
redever's picture
redever
99.2
2
Secyh62's picture
Secyh62
99.0
3
BankonBanking's picture
BankonBanking
99.0
4
Betsy Massar's picture
Betsy Massar
99.0
5
CompBanker's picture
CompBanker
98.9
6
kanon's picture
kanon
98.9
7
dosk17's picture
dosk17
98.9
8
GameTheory's picture
GameTheory
98.9
9
DrApeman's picture
DrApeman
98.8
10
Jamoldo's picture
Jamoldo
98.8
success
From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”