6 Free Financial Modeling Lessons...and More.

Enter your e-mail below to get our new Free Modeling Tutorials ($200+ Value).

< previous | next >

Pretty sure I'm getting fired from SA tomorrow
 

S.O.L.'s picture
(Monkey, 33
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 1:00pm
SAD MONKEY

Less than three weeks left and I'm 99% sure I'm getting terminated tomorrow.

Our deal team has been working on what would have been a really major transaction. We have 3 MDs on this one (names changed):

#1: Let's call him David, is a guy who is one of the more likable people I've met (not just in finance). David's a good dude who maintains a good relationship with all of us young and clueless monkeys.

#2: John, short tempered f*ck head, always dissatisfied with everything. Gets sh*t done, but treats underlings like we are getting in his way all the time.

Anyways, nobody has really left the office since Tuesday, everyone is as stressed and miserable as you can imagine in an office setting. Despite us doing everything right, the deal has pretty much completely deteriorated just in the last 48 hours. John has completely lost whatever temper he might have had, PMSing like a motherf*cker. I've been avoiding even making eye contact with him all day.

The office mostly cleared out around 9 and John left for the day. I cracked a joke to another intern about John needing some anger management and wen't back to my outlook. Turns out he didn't leave yet. He just happened to be walking past my desk, heard all of it, and immediately broke down and went off on me.

What ensued was the most terrifying experience of my life, my asshole was torn wider than I knew was possible. The other intern gets berated for chuckling. I must have looked pale as a f*cking ghost. I tried to apologize, he just cuts me off and tells me not to come in tomorrow. I get my sh*t together and head home as fast as I possibly could.

All I can think about is how hard I have worked, countless hours networking and prepping and busting my ass to finally get that dream SA position. What a stupid f*cking way to lose a FT offer.

Now I get home and I can't login to my company email. OH F*CK. :(

Tags:
S.O.L.'s picture

TL;DR : I said my MD needs

(Monkey, 33
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 1:05am

TL;DR :

I said my MD needs anger management, he overheard me and went full retard (because he needs anger management) and tells me not to come in tomorrow.

Now my company email doesn't work.

CoochieMane's picture

Keep your head up. It's not

 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 1:19am

Keep your head up. It's not over until it's over. Learn from this.

And even then, at least you have an IB SA on your resume.

awqtfq's picture

Let us know whether or not

(Orangutan, 250
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 1:28am

Let us know whether or not you get canned

Sandhurst's picture

That is exceptionally shitty;

IB
(King Kong, 1,235
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 2:28am

That is exceptionally shitty; sorry to hear it. Personally, I probably wouldn't go in tomorrow. I would try to reach out to fellow SAs/Analysts, or anyone junior with whom you have a relationship, to get a sense of what's going on.

If things look pretty bad inside the group, I would consider writing a note to "David," since he seems to be more understanding. You would own up to your joke, and reiterate how committed you have been to the opportunity. I wouldn't make it long, wouldn't spend much time explaining what "happened;" you don't want to grovel. The goal would be to put the incident in perspective, without saying as much explicitly. Just a brief bit, 5 sentences tops.

Let us know how it works out. Good luck.

"There are three ways to make a living in this business: be first, be smarter, or cheat."

tiger2012's picture

I'd go into work tomorrow.

ER
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 2:41am

I'd go into work tomorrow. The worst thing is you get escorted out, its not like you'll be using him as a rec anyway(Extra points for throwing your bb Margin Call style).

At this point you don't have much to lose and maybe he'll have more respect for you if you have the guts to come in since he's had sometime to cool off.

D M's picture

I'd try and hit up the other

O
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 3:32am

I'd try and hit up the other MD, or an analyst/associate/VP that might be willing to give you some more info

"WSO is like the 300 for anti spamage. None shall pass." -happypantsmcgee
"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer

Asatar's picture

I'd go into work and make a

O
(Neanderthal, 2,015
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 4:24am

I'd go into work and make a point to go and apologise briefly in person to him. Say that just because you had been working so hard doesn't excuse what you said etc. If you are really sneaky, make sure that the 'nice' MD sees you going into the others office so that if you get screamed at, he might com to your rescue.

Like others said, you have nothing to lose and not coming in will probably piss off more people. For what it's worth, I doubt you are getting fired, but I wouldn't count on an FT offer.

See my other WSO blog posts>

heebbanker's picture

You are a giant pu$$y if you

(Baboon, 116
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 7:56am

You are a giant pu$$y if you don't go in. Stop being a chick -- you are making this into a WAY bigger deal than it should be. A bunch of type-As in the office in high stress situations are going to get into it occasionally. I got into a shouting match in the office with one of my directors during my SA. It was to the point where other associates had to tell us to chill out. I just cooled off a bit (and let him do the same) and went and talked to him a few hours later. Part apologized, part explained what set me off. He did the same. He has been in my corner ever since.

I know you are trying to get this job, but remember this: your MD is not a god. He is just another guy. Chances are, he has gotten into it with other members of the team in the past. Chances are he will do it again in the future. Chances are, he knows that he can be a prick. Doesn't mean he isn't good at his job, just like one ill-advised joke doesn't mean you aren't good at yours. During the course of his career, many people have been willing to look past his proclivity to be a prick. He should be able to look past a bad joke (assuming you have otherwise been doing good work).

Just act like a man and, at the very least, the rest of the group will respect you for it.

blastoise's picture

ownd don't talk **** op

O
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 8:04am

ownd don't talk **** op

seville's picture

update us as soon as you can~

 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 8:31am

update us as soon as you can~

blastoise's picture

I got to know!

O
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 8:34am

I got to know!

El_Mono's picture

Go, apologize and come back

IB
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 9:07am

Go, apologize and come back to let us know what happened. Good luck.

Valor is of no service, chance rules all, and the bravest often fall by the hands of cowards. - Tacitus

Dr. Nick Riviera: Hey, don't worry. You don't have to make up stories here. Save that for court!

S.O.L.'s picture

My pass wouldn't scan so I

(Monkey, 33
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 9:19am

My pass wouldn't scan so I had the security desk call up. No dice. I couldn't even get to the elevator. So fucking embarrassing to get turned away by the guy I used to say hi to every morning.

I've sent some emails from my other address, just waiting for a response. I'll keep this updated if things develop. On my way to the gym to kick some serious ass.

BlackHat's picture

Call and ask if he'll write

HF
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 9:18am

Call and ask if he'll write you a recommendation for full-time

I hate victims who respect their executioners

Follow BH & Co. on Twitter: @DumbLuckCapital
twitter.com/DumbLuckCapital

Anacott_CEO's picture

Yikes.

CF
(King Kong, 1,259
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 9:28am

Yikes.

PTS's picture

you are out man it happens.

IB
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 9:33am
happypantsmcgee's picture

You have IB on your resume.

O
(Almost Human, 9,621
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 9:35am

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

huanleshalemei's picture

If you REALLY want this job,

(Gorilla, 518
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 9:50am

The Auto Show

happypantsmcgee's picture

huanleshalemei: bursting into

O
(Almost Human, 9,621
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 9:57am

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

That_Aston's picture

But...let us know what

CF
(Gorilla, 573
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 10:29am

Here to learn and hopefully pass on some knowledge as well. SB if I helped.

GS's picture

That_Aston: But...let us know

ST
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 10:50am
That_Aston's picture

GS: That_Aston: But...let

CF
(Gorilla, 573
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 10:54am

Here to learn and hopefully pass on some knowledge as well. SB if I helped.

ChrisHansen's picture

How much does your ass hurt

(Gorilla, 530
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 11:01am

"I'm the luckiest guy in the world, and when I die I want to come back as me."
-Mark Cuban

above_and_beyond's picture

Seriously.. You got fired

IB
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 11:12am
HYAddict's picture

This sounds really sh*t,

IB
(Monkey, 45
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 11:24am
SirTradesaLot's picture

My anger management classes

O
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 11:43am

Turbo leverage for capital explosion -- BD Capital

My WSO Blog

hoodinternet's picture

Was this at a BB/MM? Or some

(Baboon, 123
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 11:44am
BigBucks's picture

How ironic, the MD that needs

IB
(Gorilla, 509
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 11:48am
TheKing's picture

First off, that's an

O
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 11:48am

Check out my WSO Blog

SirTradesaLot's picture

TheKing: First off, that's an

O
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 11:53am

Turbo leverage for capital explosion -- BD Capital

My WSO Blog

Frieds's picture

I definitely agree with what

AM
(Neanderthal, 2,530
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 12:10pm
huanleshalemei's picture

Er...despite of the actual

(Gorilla, 518
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 12:22pm

The Auto Show

HYAddict's picture

Listen to TheKing and

IB
(Monkey, 45
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 12:23pm
Unforseen's picture

This is so fucked yet so

(King Kong, 1,099
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 12:39pm

Check out my Blog

SirBarney's picture

Somewhat suspicious as to

O
(Gorilla, 505
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 12:41pm
SanDiegoBolt's picture

If this is true, bad luck

O
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 12:43pm
happypantsmcgee's picture

SirBarney: Somewhat

O
(Almost Human, 9,621
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 12:59pm

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

WSOusername's picture

Dude, whatever happens just

 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 2:16pm

GBS

Futures Trader Man's picture

Wow... it's stories like this

IB
(Orangutan, 299
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 2:18pm

"Well, you know, I was a human being before I became a businessman." -- George Soros

Vi's picture

I have dealt with this

IB
(Orangutan, 305
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 2:25pm
peterg's picture

tiger2012: I'd go into work

IB
(Baboon, 140
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 2:29pm
wannabeaballer's picture

I gotta ask one question: Do

O
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 2:31pm

Gun Control Discussion

Hooked on LEAPS's picture

Hmm... this is pretty

ER
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 2:35pm

You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist. - Friedrich Nietzsche

Ron Paul's picture

Hooked on LEAPS: Hmm... this

 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 2:49pm
arguewithatree's picture

Although he could just stick

IB
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 2:52pm
NYU's picture

Any thoughts on what HR would

PE
(Baboon, 160
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 2:52pm
IlliniProgrammer's picture

Yeah. Have to look past the

ST
(Almost Human, 9,213
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 3:04pm

Work hard, play hard.

Asatar's picture

Ron Paul: Hooked on

O
(Neanderthal, 2,015
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 3:06pm

See my other WSO blog posts>

wannabeaballer's picture

Tomorrow is the first of

O
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 3:38pm

Gun Control Discussion

BTbanker's picture

The boys at Yahoo! are gonna

IB
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 3:38pm

"A man generally has two reasons for doing anything. One that sounds good, and the real one." - J.P. Morgan

6 Free Financial Modeling Lessons...Straight to Your Inbox.

Confirm your name and e-mail below to get our best tips

Monkey Stats
Account information
We respect your Name and E-mail privacy. By joining you accept our terms of service.