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Most schools hold onto your applications for 2 years, and when you re-apply within that time frame they actively compare your app to your previous one.

Question: to what extent does one's career goals have to be consistent with those expressed in your previous application? If your career goals change rather drastically in 2 years, will that raise a red flag among adcom?

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  • Boothorbust's picture

    I don't pretend to speak with any authority on this, but based on my conversations and visits I would think the adcom would want a good reason why you have changed your ambitions - Did you meet someone who changed your mind, did you do more research on your new target industry/job, etc? Maybe use the optional essay to explain why your goals have shifted and try to explain why it makes you a better applicant this time around. I think what they don't want to see is someone who doesn't have steady or well thought-out goals, which is how it might appear if you just put a new post-MBA goal without some thorough explanation.

  • Matrick's picture

    Brady, where are you applying? Ever thought about an admissions consultant?

    I'm talking about liquid. Rich enough to have your own jet. Rich enough not to waste time. Fifty, a hundred million dollars, buddy. A player. Or nothing.

    See my Blog & AMA

  • In reply to Matrick
    Brady4MVP's picture

    Matrick:
    Brady, where are you applying? Ever thought about an admissions consultant?

    No, I am not using an admissions consultant. I wrote a few posts in another thread about my thoughts on consultants.

  • whatwhatwhat's picture

    just put that you want to get in so you can party like a bro, bro

  • In reply to Brady4MVP
    Matrick's picture

    Brady4MVP][quote=Matrick:
    In my opinion, the only ones worth using are sandy "HBSguru" Kreisberg and Alex Chu. They're the only guys who will be totally honest with you about your chances rather than blowing smoke up your ass.

    Looked it up and agree 100%

    I'm talking about liquid. Rich enough to have your own jet. Rich enough not to waste time. Fifty, a hundred million dollars, buddy. A player. Or nothing.

    See my Blog & AMA

  • In reply to Brady4MVP
    happypantsmcgee's picture

    Brady4MVP:
    Matrick:
    Brady, where are you applying? Ever thought about an admissions consultant?

    No, I am not using an admissions consultant. I wrote a few posts in another thread about my thoughts on consultants.


    For what it's worth, I think everyone should read those as they give some serious insight into what actual value you get for your (pretty significant) investment.

    If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

  • melvvvar's picture

    i really hope you get into HBS.

  • EPS's picture

    Link to these posts? Couldn't find them

    Impossible is nothing

  • IlliniProgrammer's picture

    Brady, whatever you do on your reapplication, don't mention that you post here. :D

    I am still shocked that you want to spend $200K on a degree that gets you nothing. You do understand that these trips to Rio your friends are making cost THOUSANDS of dollars, right? Instead of spending your money on tuition, why not spend those thousands in Rio instead?

  • francisco_bt's picture

    While I think Brady kind of puts business school in a pedestal, is isn't so mind blowing to want to party (and study) while progressing in your career and opening interesting doors.

  • In reply to IlliniProgrammer
    Brady4MVP's picture

    IlliniProgrammer:
    Brady, whatever you do on your reapplication, don't mention that you post here. :D

    I am still shocked that you want to spend $200K on a degree that gets you nothing. You do understand that these trips to Rio your friends are making cost THOUSANDS of dollars, right? Instead of spending your money on tuition, why not spend those thousands in Rio instead?

    An M7 MBA is worth MUCH more than $200K, in my opinion. Given my career goal of getting into investment management, having access to the on-campus recruiting, network, and other resources, will be invaluable. And of course, the social experience will be the time of my life, something I will remember and cherish even on my deathbed.

  • EvolutionaryMonkey's picture

    I am fairly new to this board, and it didn't take long to catch on Brady's obsession with HBS or "M7 MBA'. If you ever get accepted, which i hope you do for the sake of this board and your unhealthy obsession.. and if you ever graduate, i have a feeling you will be the guy whose car is covered in "Harvard Graduate" bumper stickers .

  • JDawg's picture

    Hi my name is Brady4MVP. I'm a virgin (if you don't count that time I let a Harvard MBA rail me up the ass) and don't have many friends. My life goal is to get accepted into HBS. Why? Well since I have such a boring personality and an awkward fetish for prestige, the only shot I'll ever have at making temporary friends and going on ski trips to Colorado is by going back to school and signing up for the class trips. Also since I'm physically unattractive and can't talk to women, HBS is the only shot I'll ever get at finally finding a girl who'll be willing to suck my 2 inch cock for the possibility that my Harvard educated ass might become rich one day and pay for her compulsive shopping habits before she divorces me and finds someone who has more going on for him than the name of the college he went to. If you're a HBS graduate, please contact me because I'd love to caress your balls while I listen to you reminisce about the life-changing non-stop orgasm that is Harvard Business School. Just thinking about it makes me want to splooge all over this keyboard.

  • Dr Joe's picture

    Haha be nice guys, he hasn't even brought up HBS yet in this thread.

    Brady, re: your original question, I really doubt anyone on here can answer it with any authority. That being said, I would think they don't really spend the time to read both applications in detail, at least not at first. It might raise some eyebrows if your plans have changed drastically, but as long as you have a story for it you should be fine. I believe (could be wrong) that some applications ask re-applicants "How are you better that before? How have you changed?" or something along those lines, so that's a pretty good place for your story.

  • speedmerchant's picture

    depends where. i think HSW require a complete new application, in which case you would answer the essays as they pertain to your new objectives, and use your optional essay to describe why you're re-applying, what's new to your profile, and why you've made changes to your goals. they would then presumably compare to notes on your last app to see if you've closed gaps / made realistic modifications to goals and objectives. not sure how they would judge the magnitude of these changes, but i think it would all hinge on a good story in the optional essay.

    other schools, however, only accept updated profile information and one new essay for re-applicants. in this case, you'd probably have to work hard to explain any changes in 600-800 words.

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  • IlliniProgrammer's picture

    Yeah. I would recommend applying at the schools that accept a complete new application and wait the two years for your old application to fall off the map at the other schools. If you make a solid application, I think you'll get interviewed. Even at a school like Stanford.

    More than anything else, to truly market yourself to a school, you have to have some level of confidence in who you are and what you have accomplished. You need to be sitting down with your friends who got into these schools, finding your voice, and seeing in yourself what a lot of other folks see in you as reasons these MBA programs should be admitting you.

    Brady, I've never seen you laugh at yourself. I joke about using coupons, drinking PBR, and driving rusty hondas all day long. I know I'm cheap. I accept that. I also accept that I trip over chairs, words, even lines of computer code. Being able to laugh at myself makes me stronger and it gives me more confidence in my true strengths.

    Go home at night and find a foible to laugh at yourself for. I made a true ass of myself in the ridiculous resume that you posted a couple years ago, and a friend commented to me that "I sounded like Donald Trump." I was able to laugh at myself for that, and pretty soon, I was laughing at myself for being cheap, for being a nerd, and pretty soon, it was giving me more confidence in my true strengths. Laughing at my weaknesses makes me feel better and stronger.

    The weaknesses you admit to yourself aren't going to find their way into the essays and interviews. But the strengths you become more confident in will.

  • Unforseen's picture

    man that sandy guy's website brought back memories from 1999.

    I plan to use an ad consultant if I decide to do my MBA.

  • IlliniProgrammer's picture

    Do you work in industry? Chances are, you can get a (free) admissions consultant who knows you a whole lot better. I got some help from a number of MBA and MFE grads who worked with me every day, knew what I did, and knew exactly how to sell me when I was applying a few years ago.

  • In reply to IlliniProgrammer
    shorttheworld's picture

    [quote=IlliniProgrammer]Brady, I've never seen you laugh at yourself. I joke about using coupons, drinking PBR, and driving rusty hondas all day long. I know I'm cheap. I accept that. I also accept that I trip over chairs, words, even lines of computer code. Being able to laugh at myself makes me stronger and it gives me more confidence in my true strengths. [quote]

    and for best example, some of us went out to get dinner when monty was in town last summer. illini suggested we go to spice market over some options. we get the bill and illini makes commentary about how the restaurant is overpriced despite the fact he said for us to go there lol

  • IlliniProgrammer's picture

    Ha! True.

    I think the comment came out when the bill came. One person at the table (not me) was new in industry and ordered a $10 appetizer, but almost everyone else wanted to split the bill evenly.

    Also, as I recall, the other option that was being presented at the time was Del Frisco's. So I talked us down from $90/plate to $50/plate. Thus, I only get labeled a catholic apostate by my dutch calvinist ancestors rather than labeled an out-and-out heretic.

  • shorttheworld's picture

    lol i think frieds wanted to split the bill but me you and ITF wanted to piecemeal it. gekko and monty i think rounded it out

  • IlliniProgrammer's picture

    I think we wound up itemizing but splitting the tip. But the poor guy who ordered the appetizer still wound up getting charged $25 for a $10 bowl of soup. IIRC, you and I helped chip in a bit to bring that down to $15.

  • Unforseen's picture

    no credit card roulette? weak.

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