Positioning as a re-applicant

Hi all-

When I was in the job market looking to jump ship from my then gig which I had been in for a year, I was interviewing for a role that I was extremely interested in. During the process, the opportunity fell off the grid because the it got cancelled/delayed etc. I ended up going to a different industry, but I found out that the role that I was considered for, and am still interested in, is available again.

If they never bring it up, is it best to mention that I am a re-app and am still interested in the role despite of current situation? How to best position as a re-app?

 

Not sure to be honest, I was under the impression it went very very well. They even asked me to meet with more people, that weren't originally suppose to meet with me. I guess I am hoping someone was more qualified then me and it did not work out.

 

My second question is I actually have a connection with someone who sent in an employee recommendation, this was after the fact that I was rejected . If I re apply, should I indicate this to HR or just apply in the regular fashion while using my contacts name?

 

I actually asked my contact at KPMG and they told me I definitely should reach out. Does this seem like a good email to send to HR?

Good afternoon ____ I am writing to re-apply for your position ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬______.

I hope all is well. I recently received an email from an online job board notifying me that there seemed to still be a position open in the ____________ team. As you are aware, I did in fact recently interview with the KPMG team. I am writing you to stress my interest in joining the team and offering my services to KPMG. Knowing what I can bring to the team and company, I was hoping I would be able to reapply. Thanking you in advance.

 

There's no limit per se, but you generally only have one shot (the spring of your junior year) to get a SA position, and one shot (the fall of your senior year) to get a FT analyst position, unless you delay your graduation or something.

If you get rejected in SA recruiting, you can definitely apply again in FT analyst recruiting. Presumably you'll have gained additional experience during the intervening period (or increased your GPA or whatever), so banks will reconsider you.

For example, during SA recruiting I didn't even get first round interviews at some BBs, but once I got an offer at the end of my summer internship, I got interviews everywhere (and actually turned down the majority).

 

If you do decide to delay graduation after your initial junior year SA recruiting season, do not recruit FT - wait it out until the next year's SA recruiting season. Reason being, it is substantially harder to land a FT offer than an SA one (at my school at least). However, if you come by in Sept/Oct and then again in Jan, the firms will recognize you and your chances will be lower. Then if SA doesn't work out again, you still have FT recruiting of your 5th year fall. If things haven't worked out by then, maybe this isn't the right field for you?

Keep in mind this is the path you would take if you had already decided to extend your graduation.

Pros: Having a full year to prepare, having prior interview experience, more time to build a resume with a boutique internship (or something else in high finance). Cons: Staying an extra year, $$

 

You want to emphasize the gains you have made to shore up your weaknesses, whatever they may be. Add to your strengths as well (promotions, awards, etc.). Yes you want new recs - especially ones that provide a fresh perspective outside of your work experiences. I'm sure that looking back you see a number of things you wish you had changed in your essays - make the changes and use them as an opportunity to address all the great new shit you are doing. Also, get b-school friends to read your entire app and provide critical feedback. Don't pay for a consultant unless you are really struggling (I think they are a huge waste of money). People on this forum would be happy to read your stuff.

You must show forward progress and a continued commitment to the schools you are applying to or you will be dinged again.

 
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Completely agree w/blue. I reapplied this year and was accepted after I was dinged last year. The difference?

Spent way more time on my essays, picked up an EC, got promoted. I did get completely different recommendations; not because my initial ones were poor - I reviewed them - but because I wanted to show that more than 2 people could write something positive about me. In addition, I completely re-wrote my essays to incorporate all the professional improvements I made in the past year. I did get a couple of friends to review my essays but did not have any "professional"/consultant help.

For what it's worth, a lot of schools say that your application is weighted against the current applicant pool, so re-applying is not a sure-in, esp. if you were waitlisted the prior year. However, I think it shows determination, commitment and drive.

Feel free to PM me for more details and happy to answer any more of you questions as to the re-application process.

 

I have no first hand knowledge, but my guess is that it would depend on why you got dinged. If they didn't like you as a person or you came off as stupid then they probably wouldn't have any interest in interviewing you again. On the other hand if there were simply other candidates that were more exceptional than you or you didn't have enough technical knowledge then they might give you another shot when you come back with some more experience.

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What's the downside of re-applying? You get dinged again? If you have the time, do it.

If they interviewed you, they definitely saw something they liked. You've got a step up against the competition. On a recruiting team I'm on, when the recruiter from HR dings someone, she notes to the team that we should keep an eye on them for full-time recruiting. This one data point may not be representative of all firms, but I don't see the harm in reapplying.

 

You SHOULD still apply because like eric mentioned there is no downside. By not applying, you've already decided for them your fate with their firm. That said, from my final year in college, I did see some friends not get interviews at firms they got dinged at as juniors (and this is even after coming back with more summer work exp). Reason being it's the same recruiter(s) and they recognized them.

My guess is, if you get dinged for something like stumbling on technicals or anything non-fit related, they may give you another shot. But if it's just a matter of mismatch in culture, fit, etc. then they may skip you over.

 

From what I've heard (I haven't done this though) if you apply for a SA and don't get it, if you have something else on your resume for that summer you can then surely reapply in the fall for FT if they have anything available. Some banks take the attitude that if you apply once, they'd rather interview someone fresh, but assuming those who they'd rather interview accept job offers in the early fall, be it with F500 or whatever, you may get lucky in the late fall/early spring if something suddenly opens up and you're first on the list of those who have been bugging HR/ hasn't accepted an offer yet. Make sure you network though with alumni/friends at the firm so that HR puts you in a better group than standard applicants.

 

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What's with all the non-target jelly prole dicks on this site. They're coming up. I've decided to do the right thing for other candidates and will likely turn down Accenture SI and IBM Strategy this week instead of reneging. While they both offered me the top pay scale based on my degrees, I think I can do better. I might decide to reapply in the future; but I was curious if anyone on here knew what the conditions were.

 

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