Transfer from UT Austin to Northwestern?
I just finished my freshman year at UT and I have been accepted as a transfer to Northwestern. Currently I'm studying Finance at McCombs but if I go to Northwestern I'll be studying economics/for the Kellogg Certificate.
Is it worth it for me to leave UT? I'm an out-of-state student (I have an in-state tuition scholarship), but money isn't an issue and I will not be in debt no matter which choice I choose. The only concerning factors should be the universities.
Also, I brought my GPA down pretty hard at UT trying to transfer into BHP, it's sitting at around a 3.45 right now. Transferring will give me a clean slate.
I plan to do management consulting at a firm like MBB/Booz or at a tech firm like Google/Dropbox.
Which choice is best for my plans?
Can't speak much to Northwestern's program and recruiting situation, but it's obviously a very respected name. That being said, I can't imagine the grass is that much greener there. McCombs gets a lot of play from recruiters. If you put in the work and get involved a little bit landing a good entry level spot is very reasonable. Austin's tech community is pretty robust and growing quickly (getting a boost from Google Fiber in 2014 as well). As a result UT gets some looks from the tech names. I would guess they are probably mostly interested in CS/Engineering kids but you never know.
How do you plan to transfer to NU with a 3.45, though? And how did your GPA suffer as a result of trying to get in to BHP? I didn't think there were any additional classes required outside of the standard business curriculum.
Assuming you could transfer in, you should put a lot of thought into where you want to work after graduation. NU opps will be largely Chicago and I'm sure some NY. UT places most kids in TX, which is largely a result of most students wanting to stay there. Would love to hear what other people have to think.
I have been accepted to Northwestern for Fall 2013 and am trying to decide whether I want to stay or leave. I'm not quite sure where I want to work after graduation, but I would say my ideal choice right now is the west coast, like California or Seattle.
I don't know, I love UT as a school but after my first year there, I feel like it isn't the "right" school. Does it really matter since it's only 3 more years? Probably not, but it's weird being there even though I'm cool with a good number of people.
Personally, I think you should stick at UT and get the GPA up.
I don't think there is much of a difference between the two except cost (Northwestern much more expensive) and location. Agree with the above for the most part. Based on personal experience recruiting as an employer at both schools, I would say that there was no perceived difference between the two (i.e. we didn't prefer one candidate over the other from an abilities / intelligence perspective) but the people from UT were easier to get along with. NU will give you opportunities for the Northeast and Chicago - but you'll also be competing against other targets. UT is the cream of the crop in Texas and you'll get access to IB, MBB, and quite a few tech jobs there, but focused in Texas.
Also, your grades will follow you. If any recruiting company is respectable they will have you submit your transcript and they will see your transfer grades from UT (unless you ignore the fact that UT ever happened and apply to Northwestern as a "freshman", which you'd have to lie about). So, I wouldn't let the prospect of leaving bad grades behind sway you. Most will look the other way on less than stellar freshman grades as long as you dominate the rest of your time in college.
As long as you like Austin and wouldn't mind living there, stay at UT and get a 4.0 (or close to it, you'll need it to get looked at by MBB) here on out. If you want better access to east coast jobs, consider switching. All things considered, I would stay at UT.
I couldn't imagine a more fun place to go to school, I would stay.
Why would you transfer? UT is a target school, and Austin is an amazing city.
I've heard NW places extremely well in consulting, less so in banking. If you're set on that route, I'd say go for it since recruiting will probably be easier from NW (although if you got a 3.45 at UT I'd be wary of what you would be getting GPA wise at Northwestern).
If you can get into NW with a 3.45 as a transfer I would certainly do that because I believe their MBB placement placement is a lot better than UT Austin.
This. Although Austin is much better than Evanston.
I'm not too fond of Austin as a city to be honest. I love the UT campus and West Campus areas a lot, but as a city it hasn't won me over. The school is awesome though.
If you don't like Austin, you probably won't like Evanston. Besides, Austin has great BBQ. The Salt Lick ftw.
Youd want to live in Portland over Austin ? How the fuck?
It sounds as if you have already made up your mind so go for it. If money is not an issue then NW is a great school; however, you can probably achieve any near-term professional goals by staying in Austin too (assuming you get grades up).
I will share the nonplussed reaction of others above at your ambivalent attitude towards Austin. I have lived in Portland and Dallas (two cities you call out as compelling) and can tell you that Austin (where I went to UG in case you missed Longhorn bias) is a mix of Portland/Dallas that is pretty tough to beat. Over the past decade Austin has grown quite a bit - it is probably now becoming more Dallas than Portland (though even Portland is not really Portland anymore - damn hipsters) as it grows - but I still believe it has to be a great place to be a student. Go see James McMurtry at Continental on South Congress on a Wednesday night if you still find yourself unconvinced - I don't think you can have a better time every week than that.
Finally, any heterosexual 19 year old boy who trades the women of Texas for those of the midwest had vastly different priorities than I did at that age...but I guess fat chicks need love too.
Austin's a dump and I can't fathom why everyone on this site idealizes it so much. The hobos are numerous and smelly, and have set up shop literally across the street from campus. There's lots of good food, if you don't mind having it prepared and served to you by disgusting lowlifes covered in tattoos with gauged ears. HEB's cool, but I hope you're not expecting the common courtesy of a grocery bag at the checkout. If you're a hipster or douchey frat scum you might love it here, personally I'm thrilled to only have one month left.
I've still yet to find a city with better looking women than New York (I've lived/worked in Miami, San Juan, San Diego, etc.). Another thing Austin has lots of that New York doesn't: fat white people.
Everything else you said rings true, though. On a related note, how do you Texas guys live with the heat? I think I'd have to wear mesh shorts year-round if I lived in Austin. Do high school lacrosse shorts and a linen oxford shirt count as business casual down there?
Hahah
Austin is overrated because every article claims that Austin is heaven on earth, and every best cities list for any category includes it near the top. Austin is a solid city, but it's definitely not some sort of paradise.
That being said - if you train your mind to ignore hobos, hipsters and fat people whenever possible - Austin can be a fun time.
Hi everyone, After reading the above comments, I am guessing u guys can suggest me something regarding my dilemma. I got admitted in the MSF programs at Olin and McCombs recently. Both B.schools are well recognized in their respective regions but I am very confused because of the following factors. Any suggestions will be highly appreciated.
I would like to work in IB/ Asset Management. I visited both schools last week. Apparently, both schools places well in Asset Mgmt roles bt the employment stats for IB positions arent that good for either of them. Secondly, McCombs tuition is 40k while Olin is 52k. I would prefer to work in NY after graduation(every finance major's dream) but I don't really care about the Location as long as I get a decent job after graduation to pay off my debt(which I will be taking to finance my education). I personally like McCombs bcoz of its strong reputation in Texas, growing Texas economy and warm weather but wondering if the newer MSF will put me at a disadvantage? I am a new immigrant to US and hardly know anyone here(I am permanent resident tho). So I will be mostly depending on University's career center, alumni network and obviously my own efforts to get a job.
Any suggestions will be highly appreciated. Thanks
Which school has more credibility on the west coast?
McCombs B school is generally more respected. Not sure about the specifics of the MsF program, but I'd go McCombs any day over Olin. Your chances of NYC will be lower, but UT is pretty much the top feeder school for Energy IB in Houston. If you're at Olin, you have more competition with all the other east coast schools.
if you want MBB or even better recognition 10yrs down the line go with NW!!
Being in Chicago(and totally biased) it is hard to put down Northwestern, but it sounds like you are actually off to a good start at UT. They each have different things to offer, but I think UT has a better student lifestyle. And there are about 10x as many girls at UT, almost by default the women have to be better looking.
Why switch majors? The Kellogg certs are interesting, but if you have a degree in finance nobody is going to be too concerned about a cert, which is basically a minor in a related field. And NW econ program is really heavy on Keynesian theory. Not too mention, if you want to move to Chicago and major in Economics, why did you not apply to U of Chicago?
NU is a good school for international opps?
Kellogg MBA is a top flight program, with some of it depending on the publication. The Economist rates it as 20th in international MBA programs, but other publications put it into the top 5. For Executive MBA, Kellogg rates #1, it has several options to study internationally, and the alumni success rate is huge. The Economist also ranked U of Chicago Booth as #1 internationally. And Notre Dame gets an honorable mention.
All of that stuff is subjective, but companies do pay attention to it when they decide where to recruit.
Same price: McCombs or transfer to Northwestern (Originally Posted: 08/12/2013)
I'm a current rising sophomore at McCombs at UT Austin and have been accepted to transfer to Northwestern (I can't find my old thread for some reason).
After reviewing financial aid packages from both schools, being out-of-state for UT, they're pretty comparable. Also I like both campuses.
As someone interested in management consulting, law and entrepreneurship and wants to work on the west coast, which is the better choice for me?
I had a good time at UT my freshman year but I'm also looking for some new experiences.
Wasn't this same exact thread posted a few months ago?
Northwestern, IMO. McCombs is a great UG business school, but the Northwestern name has more national cachet.
for management consulting in general, Northwestern might a little better, but you'd likely be fine at either school.
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http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/transfer-from-ut-austin-to-northw…
I think Northwestern is the better choice here. If you want to work on the west coast in entrepreneurship, wouldn't Stanford have been a good choice for you? Though I get that it may be late for you to apply now - not entirely sure. But if you have to choose right now, I say Northwestern.
OK, this answered a few of my other questions from the other thread.
How active would you say you were on campus at UT Austin?
Ceteris Paribus, for your situation (McCombs vs. Northwestern, paying same price, not intent on landing a Big Four CPA job, not intent on working in energy, land at NU as a sophomore), I say Northwestern.
But again, this isn't Harvard vs. BMCC. These are two very good schools. Because of your specific circumstances, I say transfer. Welcome to the Big Ten.
I am not 100% sure Stanford takes transfers. But more importantly, we are not in the business of woulda coulda shoulda, and OP is asking us about UT Austin vs. Northwestern.
My view is that for someone interested in consulting and studying business, it is marginally better to be a student at Northwestern with 3 years of leadership than to be a student at UT Austin with 4 years of leadership. There are many cases where leaving UT Austin could mean OP is shooting himself in the foot, but for most cases, and for the average case, OP should probably transfer.
If the cost difference were $100K; if OP were allergic to cold weather, my answer would be different.
Sucks that OP can't get in-state tuition at one of the best Accy programs in the country. If he were in state and wanted to do Big Four Accounting, I would be vociferously arguing that OP stay in Texas. Frankly I am not sure why OP wants to do consulting when a Big Four CPA job would position him better to get an MBA and become a CFO, but that's outside the scope of this discussion.
How social are you? NW will be a big step down socially. UT will give you a platform to go almost anywhere, if you want it enough. NW will be marginally better on a national scale, but I'm not sure that the social trade-off is worthwhile.
If you're into football and girls, UT >> NW. While the actual campus at NW is decent, don't expect to be really involved in actual Chicago from Evanston.
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