Second Bachelor's Degree?

I graduated from a non-target school with a 3.3 GPA a year ago and have been working in back office operations for a global Asset Management firm. My end goal is to get an MBA from a top b-school and work in IB, and to help get me there I'm considering getting a second BA from UPenn. They have a program where you can enter as a "non-traditional student", and get the same exact undergraduate degree as anyone who went there right after high school. It's expensive, but with scholarships I'm thinking it may be worth it. A BA from an ivy league school could get me into an IB right after graduation, and would definitely help in MBA admissions. Thoughts? How beneficial do you see this being? Aside from costs, do you see any downsides?

 

I didn't read the details, but getting a second bachelor's degree is stupid. Get a masters, or get work experience. I've never heard of anyone getting any extra benefit from going back to school for a second bachelor's. You'd have to go back for engineering or something along those lines, and no one ever does that. If you were smart enough for that, you would have figured it out before you finished school the first time.

 

go for a masters.

I ave 2 bachelor degrees, all beit mine are very similar (banking and finance) and (accounting), so really was a waste of time and I dont think it gavce me any advantage. Yours could help, since they will be so different. But I reckon go for the masters rather, and dingus such as myself can get a bachelor

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A. If you go to Columbia, you don't go to Big 4. You're good for McKinsey, Bain, Boston Consulting Group.

B. Cooper Union is a great school, people do know about it, and you can make it to a good masters program with that degree.

C. Unless you want to do a MSFE or something very, very quant-oriented, you don't need all that many high-level quant courses. Honestly, your degree in architecture is probably as good prepartion, in terms of math, as an undergrad econ degree.

D. I think a MS is much more worth your time. Especially a MS at Columbia or another top school.

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FSC,

Thanks for your reply. Do you have any MS programs in mind? The only MS program I was able to look into at Columbia is the MS in Financial Economics, which has the following prerequisites: Probability, Statistics, Microeconomics, Two Semesters of Calc, Linear Algebra and Matrix Theory, and Computer Programing.

Unfortunately (fortunately when I did) I received credit for my high school Calculus class and have only taken a microeconomics elective and 4 semesters of Structures (which would not count for prerequisites) while at Cooper.

 

Since you don't have a quantitative background, why are you considering a switch? What job will some calc classes get you that you can't get right now? Why not specialize in architectural consulting instead?

Either: 1) Take Calc 1-3, Linear Algebra, a few basic stats, and a calc-based stats class then apply to quantitative MS. 2) Apply for MBA.

I can't understand how you're an architect yet haven't taken any calc... Isn't an architect a specialized engineer? You can draw it up, but you have no idea if it'll stand once you build it? Seems odd...

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pplstuff,

A bachelor of architecture only requires up to Calculus I (which I received credit for). I have taken a semester of Physics, and have continually taken Structures (engineering for architects) which covers some elements of arithmetic and algebra, but nothing past that.

I am hoping to make a switch into management consulting/Asset Management. This is why I have been looking into a different degree.

 
cold pizza 2:
all the hottest girls at my school are marketing majors.

it probably wasn't a stupid choice when you were making it...

Lol, the girls were smoking hot. From a social standpoint by time in college has been awesome.

 
cold pizza 2:
all the hottest girls at my school are marketing majors.

it probably wasn't a stupid choice when you were making it...

Lol, the girls were smoking hot. From a social standpoint by time in college has been awesome.

 

The schools you mentioned are barely target schools to begin with, and unless you're going back for a specialized degree [ie: nursing] a second B.A. / B.S. is totally unwarrented. I'd go with the master's program and really, really, REALLY, learn how to make it work for you.

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cold pizza 2:
if the school is AACSB for accounting - then it doesn't matter where you go.

Just go to the cheapest place and get a master's there.

Not true at all.

I actually really agree with the MAcc recommendation, but do not go to another no name school.

OP - my background was worse than yours, I had a 3.0 in accounting from total no name school. I had a crappy internship, but with a decent F500 company (in a small manufacturing facility). I spun that, some leadership activities and a pretty good GMAT into a MAcc at Indiana. It was the best move I could have made. With a top MAcc you'll be turning down really good offers, with a no name MAcc you'll be struggling to get a decent offer.

I know a lot of people from my no name undergrad (which is AACSBD accredited for accounting) that went on to grad school their. They all graduated and went to work for regional accounting firms, small companies or even banks (as loan officers and retail bank management). At IU I had offers from 3 of the Big 4 and other quality companies. My friends from undergrad would've died to have even 1 of my offers, while I was turning down interviews for decent roles. Things may have changed slightly in the last 5 years, but I would go for a brand name MAcc - that's what I did and it worked out well.

If you put in the work to do fairly well on the GMAT (650+) you'll be fine. I was under 700 and I even got a small scholarship offer from a top 10-15 MAcc program with my background.

If you are seriously considering a MAcc check out ANT's website and feel free to send me a PM.

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in NY, as long as you are AACSB, you're good - they don't give a shit. I know this for a fact.

Maybe it's because there isn't as much demand in the mid-west - I doubt that - but I don't see how it would even matter given that accreditation, considering you're learning the same bullshit...

If I disagree with you, it's because you're wrong.
 
cold pizza 2:
you're learning the same bullshit...
...and getting recruited by VERY different networks / companies. The accreditation is just to be allowed to keep the doors of the program open. Some schools will make it much easier to get the job you want.

OP, do your homework: what is your current career goal?

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UFO is spot on.

At the time, IU was one of only a handful of schools that was recruited nationally by the Big 4. I had an offer from Deloitte NYC because their national recruiting coordinator came to our recruiting events.

While I'm sure PwC Louisville recruits at Kentucky, someone at UK does NOT have the same opportunities outside of that small office in the Big 4. And even worse, the AACSB accredited directional state school I went to undergrad at had NO Big 4 representation. No one from the school made the Big 4 and despite my best efforts I never got an interview for an internship or fulltime.

The current F500 I work at only recruits new hires from 5 schools. While this is just one example, it also is not an anomaly.

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Thanks everyone, for the replies so far. So it looks like getting a Masters, is the best choice for me to make. Could someone explain why getting a second undergrad degree in Economics from UVA or UT-Austin is such a bad idea in detail. I'm not looking or expecting to get a IB job from Goldman Sachs or Consulting gig from Bain (though both choices would be amazing). I am aiming at more realistic jobs such as getting a consulting job with a second tier consulting firm such as Accentue or a Finance based job with a F500 like GE,etc. Also I will be only 22 when I graduate with a second undergrad (since I am onlytaking three years with my business undergrad).

Thanks again guys

 

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