Shadowing Advice/What Questions to Ask?

I have been going twice a year for the last four years to shadow a Managing Director of Equity Trading at a BB. I am going again this week to do what I have been doing for the past four years which is basically just watch what he does, talk, and ask questions. This started in high school through a connection and now I am a sophomore in college. After going for this long I am running out of questions to ask and things to say. Any advice or ideas on how to keep my visits interesting? He has promised me an interview for a SA position next year when I am a rising senior, so I do not want to blow this. Thanks.

 
Lotin:
Four years and you never asked about an internship?

next time you meet with him, just say it in the best way possible, you're ready to enter the dungeon and pursue a career within the financial field and would be interested in working at the firm for the summer of 2013.

Obviously this whole time has been about me getting an internship next year after my junior, but he said he can only promise me an interview which is a big help. I was looking for some ideas for questions that would really impress him.

 

All you have to do is look nice and be genuine. Don't go down there and be all "OMG this is exactly what I was born to do1!one!!"

Dress nicely and ask good questions. Let them know you're interested in what they do (both from the "I want to do this" and also the "This is interesting..." perspectives).

Just make a friends, and you will make a good impression.

- Capt K - "Prestige is like a powerful magnet that warps even your beliefs about what you enjoy. If you want to make ambitious people waste their time on errands, bait the hook with prestige." - Paul Graham
 

If you are 1) only interested in corp. fin. jobs and 2) have some good corp. fin. job leads/offers, it doesn't make any sense for you to do this and look unprepared. Some people will tell you differently, but this is my honest opinion after going through a ton of interviews over the past few years.

There is no shame in making an excuse about something coming up at the last minute and you not being able to go - you probably won't get the job then, but sounds like you don't really want it.

If you ARE set on going, read up as much as you can about the markets and what that specific group does. Do some research online into traders, what the job entails, etc. Would be good to do some offline reading too but you probably don't have time at this point.

 

This a great opportunity that most people interested in S&T would love to have. If you are even remotely interested in S&T take this opportunity. Being able to see what S&T do during the day may provide you with some sort of edge come interview time. Furthermore being able to speak with some of the people there they are likely to remember you and if they liked you push your resume into the pile. It could also make interviewing more interesting for you.

I was fortunate enough to spend several hours shadowing after my interviews, I felt it was a great experience.

"Oh the ladies ever tell you that you look like a fucking optical illusion" - Frank Slaughtery 25th Hour.
 

If you'll be shadowing for a day, unless the place is full of pricks, I doubt you'll be interrogated on your finance knowledge. It should be a fun recruiting opportunity for your friend and not much more. Save the technicals for the interview.

 

That is what I would think, but my buddy told me to be prepared just in case. I doubt i'll get totally grilled, but as someone thinking about trading as a career, I would like to know my shit just in case.

 
Captcha raptcha:
That is what I would think, but my buddy told me to be prepared just in case. I doubt i'll get totally grilled, but as someone thinking about trading as a career, I would like to know my shit just in case.
Like the Scouts say, Be Prepared.
 

I think you'll be fine. Just try to be enthusiastic...I got to visit the trading floor at JPM a couple weeks ago and sit at a few desks. I had no idea what most of the people were doing. they'll go through everything and explain it to you in layman's terms. i mean, you're a rising junior...no one expects you to know anything. A lot of what these people do are very technical and/or specific so I doubt you'll gain much from reading textbooks or reviewing class notes. More useful thing would be to read the WSJ or FT and know what are the big things going on in the markets right now. Good conversation starters too.

 

Hey Im a rising junior at a target school with a good gpa and good extra curriculars.I'm currently interning in the treasury operations departments over at Merrill Lynch. They give me a lot of pretty substantial work to do and a lot of responsibility. just like everyone else on this website i want to do i-banking. Do you'll think working in the operations department this summer will help me get an internship at a BB bank next summer after my junior year. thanks

 

Don't exchange war stories with a guy you knew from high school. Apparently it can lead from 'you will be great in this position' to 'good luck on your job search' pretty quick. Which I think is messed up, just simple life experiences that are different from the average student.

Only two sources I trust, Glenn Beck and singing woodland creatures.
 
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True story. I was at a job shadowing event for a large company shadowing buyers. Things were going great and we were doing scenarios at this point. After that portion we had a little break, a guy i went to high school with had recognized me and came over to the table I was at to say hi. We were both veterans, both infantry (army and marines), and we started talking about where we were stationed. He started talking about an incident involving a suicide bomber. This reminded me of a a similar experience. Then we were talking different missions, incidents, what we thought of our time in, the situation overseas and what we were doing in school. When we all regrouped the employee that invited me to this, from a job fair, sat back down. She pointed out I was a veteran and another employee that was at the table during my conversation said 'I know we just heard a bunch of war stories.' So end of the day, the one who had invited me said I did great, as the other was affirming throughout the day. However, the one who sat and listened kindly wished me good luck on my job search. So, do not tell war stories at when job shadowing . It was a lesson learned, I honestly didn't think anything of it when we were talking, just two vets sharing experiences. Now if you do not have war stories think a step further as to what else can be considered rude to bring up. Keggers, running from the cops, fighting and promiscuous pursuits come to mind.

Only two sources I trust, Glenn Beck and singing woodland creatures.
 

doing anything else? didn't think so, take the opportunity.....jeeeez!

"After you work on Wall Street it’s a choice, would you rather work at McDonalds or on the sell-side? I would choose McDonalds over the sell-side.” - David Tepper
 

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