So about this Accounting course I'm taking...
I'm considering taking an elective (accounting) course pass-fail. It's taking up most of my time (I'm a second semester senior), and while I realize that it is very important that I develop a strong understanding of it for banking, the course is eating up my schedule and preventing me from attending to anything else. At this point, I simply need to survive this semester and at least maintain my GPA, and it's difficult to do that when I have a senior thesis, the job search, and the pressure of getting an A in this course.
While this may seem like an easy decision, it's actually been bothering me for some time. I didn't do so hot in my accounting course last semester (D+) but, in reality, I really don't think that grade reflected my understanding of the material (the professor was a d-bag). I was actually able to convince the professor of the intermediate class to let me enroll anyways. Also, my understanding of the material hasn't stopped me from making final rounds at BB banks.
How does taking Int. 1 accounting pass-fail look when I received a miserable grade in intro to accounting? I'm the only non-accounting major (I'm humanities) studying this, and was hoping to get at least a B to "make up" for last semester, but even that would require far too large of a sacrifice, This would make my life, much, much more bearable.
Thanks!
You probably need to take it normally and get an A in order to bring your GPA back up, if nothing else. Also, it will give you the opportunity to show that you do actually understand accounting better than the D+ reflected. Just out of curiosity, if you're a humanities major and obviously struggle with accounting why do you want to do investment banking? I'm sure I'll catch some grief for asking that, but it seems like a strange situation.
No problem.
I agree that if I were to hypothetically ace this class, it would certainly make up for the D+. However, I think that such a goal, given the numerous amount of other things on my plate right now, would take too much time away from my other commitments and would not only serve to lower my GPA, but also make my life miserable.
With regards to the why investment banking question: first, I don't see how majoring in humanities precludes anyone from being able to do the job. Now I know that the D+ is clearly a red flag, but I actually enjoy accounting to a certain degree, and as I mentioned before, I think that my near-failing grade has just as much to do with my professor docking it because of missed classes due to interviews as it does with my understanding.
Lastly, to address the potential "well, if you like accounting so much, why are you contemplating taking it pass fail" question. First, because of my other commitments (including a lengthy senior thesis), and the fact that I still don't have post-grad plans, I don't have much time to devote to this class. Yes, I realize that this means more to learn when the job starts, but I'd rather have it that way than completely tank my GPA and not have a job anyways. Also, I would need to get at least an A- in the class to prevent it from lowering my GPA, which, given the arbitrary way college professors grade tests at my school, will necessitate an extra degree of effort that will destroy any sanity I have and may not even help my practical understanding of the discipline (ex. less time to network/plan things out so I can memorize the roles of FASB)
I don't think that majoring in humanities precludes anyone from being able to do the job. I guess the best way to explain my confusion would be someone with a finance or accounting degree applying for jobs as a museum curator. They may be able to do the job just as well as others, but why didn't they major in something more focused on that industry? Again, that's not to say one way or the other is best. I was just trying to get a better picture of what was going on.
No worries, and I apologize if I came across as confrontational (I didn't mean to).
I picked my humanities major (international relations) because I a) wanted to learn chinese, and b) didn't even know what finance, much less investment banking (i grew up in a semi-rural area in northern california) was until my junior year of college. At that point I was locked into my major. I agree, it's not a very good signal to employers that I'm majoring in a subset of political science, hence the accounting coursework, among other things. I'm just making the best out of the situation at this point.
With that said, does anyone else have any feedback on this? Thanks.
fuck your senior thesis noone gives a shit about that. Drop that shit instead
I have never encountered someone who never failed at something in life. The people who bounce back on their feet after failure get a second chance because they acknowledge their failures. Recognizing your failure help you improve your flaws and you can overpower them in the future.
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You need to: 1) Grow some balls! Don't blame your teacher because you chose to fail Principles of Accounting. You chose to miss classes to go to your interviews, so you chose to have a low grade for class participation. When I was in your shoes, one of my teachers sat me down and told me to get my tasks done by priority. It seems that in your case, you had other priorities over your accounting class and your accounting grade. You must have performed extremely badly in that class to get a D+ or you must have missed SEVERAL classes for that D+. Where I am studying, the policy requires that teachers give students F if they miss 3 classes or F if they miss one session in classes that meet only once a week.
2) This should not be an excuse to not do well.3) Look up the definition of commitment. When you are done, make sure that you do not commit to anything that you do not intend to honor.
4) You knew that you do not have enough time to study for accounting. You knew that getting a good grade in accounting would drive you insane. You knew that you have other priorities that matter so much that you cannot phantom the idea of allocating more time to your accounting class.
But, You still chose to take that class. What will you say when you get F in that class? Hmmm, you failed because you were writing your thesis? Why are you torturing your poor soul like that?
@chubbybunny.
Trust me if I could, I would. Indeed, no one cares about it... except the registrar, who will not let me graduate without it. (I was planning on locking up the job search before the winter so I could just pump out the thesis this semester, now both are running into each other).
@Piggybank.
Fine, I concede that most of the points mentioned are correct and yes, I've made too many commitments. I'm just trying to see what can be salvaged by this situation, and seeing how bad taking it pass/fail would look. Speaking of which, given that that was my original question, does anyone have an answer to that?
Thanks,
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