Success: Individualism vs. Collectivism

I get the feeling that a lot of people on this site do not believe in themselves to go about and achieve their goals on their own. Rather they sob about not getting into top MBA programs or a position at a BB and thus their life is hopeless because they’re not going along a perceived route of success. They way some people act like hopeless cry babies on this site leads me to believe that even if they manage to get a top MBA in the long run they will fail because they lack self reliance and only value group success. Because they value group success rather than individual success it will be hard for them to differentiate themselves from coworkers when, say, in a situation that a company needs to promote one employee and let the lower performing of the two go, they will be the one let go.

This is just a quick ponder/rant by the way.

 

Very true. Never feel sorry for yourself. I got rejected from five Ivies in my senior year, I didn't cry for a second, and I just got back on my feet and I keep on fighting. Play the best game you can with the cards you're given. There's more than one path to success. There's a consultant on the WSO website who's an executive at Morgan Stanley, and he only has a high school degree. One of the founders of Saloman Brothers only had an eighth grade education. I'm going to try to transfer to Wharton after my freshman year by the way. One defeat is not going to destroy my determination.

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tobywashere:
Very true. Never feel sorry for yourself. I got rejected from five Ivies in my senior year, I didn't cry for a second, and I just got back on my feet and I keep on fighting. Play the best game you can with the cards you're given. There's more than one path to success. There's a consultant on the WSO website who's an executive at Morgan Stanley, and he only has a high school degree. One of the founders of Saloman Brothers only had an eighth grade education. I'm going to try to transfer to Wharton after my freshman year by the way. One defeat is not going to destroy my determination.

You sound like you have the right mindset so keep hustling. The ibank I intern at now rejected me twice but they saw my persistence and on my third try they finally gave me my shot.

 
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MPBYO:
I get the feeling that a lot of people on this site do not believe in themselves to go about and achieve their goals on their own. Rather they sob about not getting into top MBA programs or a position at a BB and thus their life is hopeless because they’re not going along a perceived route of success.

Truth, honestly I feel like this industry is a funnel; you graduate from a target, go work at a top BB, get an MBA, work in PE, ...get fat, cynical, move to Brookville or East Williston with your jappy-ass or asian wife and she pumps out a few kids while you work until you're 60. I'm just hoping it's not too late in my college career to not do banking and live abroad at this point.

 

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