What to Include in a Keeping in Touch Email
I was wondering on what to include in an email to keep in touch with employees in a bank that I interned at last summer.
Just some questions I had:
(1): What are the best keep-in-touch subject lines?
(2): How do I start the email? ex. "Hi, how is everything going on? I hope all is well, etc."
(3): What content should I add in the email?
(4*): How to passively ask if there is a spot for me to intern there again?
Thanks all! I really do appreciate all the responses! Have a good one!
Catching Up Email Contents
The contents of the email will vary based on your relationship with the professional. The email that you send to an alumni that you have been networking with will be different than the catching up email you would send to a professional that you've previously interned with.
If you have not previously worked with this individual, you should be sure to keep everything professional. If you are keeping in touch with an alumni or professional you've previously worked with you can send emails around major events at school. You can update them with your summer plans / what you did over the summer or major accomplishments you've had at school. You should be sure to also ask them how they are. If possible you can reference elements that you spoke about during a previous conversation - IE if they were about to take a vacation you could ask them about that vacation.
If it is someone that you interned with you can be a bit more informal - but always remember that its better to be more professional than less professional.
If you are trying to ask for another internship - you should tread cautiously. You can consider tacking on language to the end of your email such as:
I also just wanted to check in to see if the firm / group is looking to bring on an intern again this summer. I really enjoyed my experience last summer and would love to have the chance to intern with the team again. I look forward to hearing from you.
Example Check-In Email
Hi XYZ,
How are you? How was your trip to France?
I just wanted to drop you a note with an update on my school year thus far. After last summer, I started my junior year at XYZ University and continued my involvement with the XYZ Economic Society. I was also recently elected to the Executive Board of the Economics Society so I am excited to get started with that in the new year!
I also wanted to check in to see if the firm is looking for any interns for this summer? I really enjoyed working with the team last summer and would love to have the opportunity to work with the group again. I look forward to hearing from you!
Best,
Nicole
What to Title a Catching Up Email
Example subject lines:
"Rory Gilmore - Checking In"
If you send your catching up emails around the holidays you can send something like:
"Paris Geller | Happy Holidays"
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The subject line "Fire Drill" gives me a pretty good response rate.
Essential: your contact info.
holy fucking shit. i swear the questions on this site become more ridiculous over the years.
I usually just write "Hi" but I am not sure if this will work for you since that was a very small company and the environment was pretty informal in general.
Dear X, I hope all is well.
Then I ask about his kids, because he used to talk about them a lot and really liked it when others expressed interest in them as well.
I usually write about something interesting I did and I know he likes (again IMO this depends on how informal the overall environment is in the company).
I'd just write something along these lines: "I was wondering if there are any internship opportunities at the company at the moment."
You should include all of your critical lifting stats: benchpress, squat, and deadlift, as well as bicep and chest measurements.
this, and BF%
Do you keep in touch with interviewers (Originally Posted: 12/13/2010)
HI all,
I'd like to get a perspective on this. I interviewed with several people (analysts/associates/VPs) that were from my school or we had a good convo. The positions i interviewed for I was rejected, because 1) Competition was brutal and space very limited, 2) I just wasn't a good/qualified fit for the spot. Nevertheless, I liked the people i interviewed with and would like to stay in touch with them.
Is it ok to reach out to those people and keep in touch? It seems a bit weird, but I am just thinking what are they going to think.
Thank you for your advice.
I was in the same position, kept in touch over the next year, and it landed me in my current job.
Go for it.
That's all the motivation i need lol
I try to keep in touch with people I talked with, shoot them ideas, links, presentations, random news other monkeys find.
Nice to get a return email or a random idea from them, but i'm into those random acts of kindness.
^ aww love your picture. I adore big cats.
I know someone who keeps in touch with an interviewer, although she didn't get passed the first round interview. I'd say, go for it.
Absolutely! The Street is a small place. You never know when your paths may cross again and they may be looking for a junior person on their team or another one off recruiting cycle and if you have a relationship, voila, they think of you.
I wish I could get into WS someday anyhow.
THanks for good advice
Would you recommend doing so even if your interviewers were not from the same school? I would think the above advice is correct as either way they are an alumni and would be interested in helping out someone from their alma mater. Would the same apply to non-alumni? Thanks in advance.
Keeping in touch with people (Originally Posted: 07/06/2015)
There have been a few guys (MD, Vp level types) who have given me a lot of info on the industry, and have literally helped me, either directly or indirectly, get jobs and offers. You strike up convo with them by saying your a student or analyst looking for info, and they help you out, but how do you then keep the relationship (no homo) going? I hate feeling fake, or like I'm hitting these guys up disingenuously, so I was wondering what other people do.
Aside from wanting to help younger people out, do you think these guys also think that part of the reason they hook you up with their network is because one day you may work in a capacity that will get you both deals? I'm typing up some emails to send out tomorrow and thought I'd post this on the forum.
I just usually ask whats new with them, ask about a deal I saw their company worked on, or ask to just catch up and grab a beer. In addition to just wanting to help you out if they like you, I agree that they probably help you out because one day they know you might be able to help them out in some form. Basically they are planting seeds.
How to keep in touch with contacts when you don't need anything? (Originally Posted: 01/06/2016)
Over the summer, I reached out to a bunch of people and did a lot of networking in anticipation that it would help with recruiting for summer analyst programs during the fall/winter. But because of a bunch of things that happened, I ended up accepting an offer pretty early on and didn't end needing to reach out to any of these people later on.
However, I'd still like to stay in touch with the people I met and think they could potentially be helpful to have in my network farther down the line, although there currently isn't anything I need. How do I continue to keep in touch when they'll probably be assuming that I'm only reaching out to them because I need a reference or something like that? Would it be presumptuous to send them updates on my offer? Any suggestions?
Thank them, give them an update on the position you accepted, if you talked about something specific with them (a deal theyre doing, a sport/hobby you have in common, etc) bring it up (it may help them to remember you and create a bond, however weak it may be) and see if you can grab coffee/lunch/drink when you're at you internship this summer. Ask them for any advice on how to succeed in your internship if that's applicable. If you just talked with them on the phone you may not have a high success rate but it won't hurt. And that's how you build a network out of nothing.
When I received my SA and FT offers, I emailed every contact I had, telling them about the offer and expressing my gratitude for their help.
Definitely don't hesitate to let them know you have the offer: always remember that networking is a two-person game. Story: after sending an email about my SA offer to a guy at an EB I had a call with in the summer of my sophomore year, he responded by asking some questions about a PE fund I interned at. We ended up talking over the phone about the PE fund and a few weeks later he ended up getting an offer as an associate there.
Short version: Nothing wrong with emailing contacts with your updates.
If you think your network might enjoy an article you've recently read, you can always use that as a conversation starter in an email.
Good ways to stay in touch (Originally Posted: 10/19/2014)
Hi everyone,
Recently signed an offer for a BB IBD internship for summer 2015. I got some calls from the team to congradulate me and they all told me to stay in touch.
I was wondering what kind of emails I should send to actually stay in touch. I've never been to great at long term networking and would really appreciate any tips that the WSO community could offer.
Thanks!
How did you sign an offer already? I thought recruiting season didn't start until the winter?
I was a sophomore intern in a different division who did mobility.
How to keep in touch? - How to develop these relationships? (Originally Posted: 03/30/2012)
The other day some alums from GS returned to campus to present their PWM recruiting for next fall.
I had conversations with all three presenters and all of them suggested to keep in touch.
As of now, I have sent them thank you emails peppered with some specifics of our conversations e.g. sports with one, WSJ & The Economist with the other, and non-traditional career paths with the third.
How do I begin developing these relationships? I do not want them to think I am just another finance monkey looking for that golden banana.
Thanks
You call them once in a while. Don't keep sending emails. Most emails get lost in the shuffle. But like once a month give people a call. Or you can send an email with a link to an article they might like (to the one who talked about the economist) But you want them to know your personality. Esp in Goldman this is important.
How to keep in touch with co-workers (Originally Posted: 02/03/2015)
Hi everyone,
Last summer I had a Corp Strat. internship with a Global Fortune 50 company in a team of 5 that had mainly ex-MBB consultants. I wanted to stay there full-time there but there was no budget for additional hires and I was too inexperienced (the lowest ranked FT member had around 4 years of experience). In his feedback for me the team leader said that he was very satisfied with my performance. Now I still want to keep in touch with him but what reasons could I find to e-mail him as I cannot meet him face to face as we are located in different countries?
Thanks for your help guys.
add him as a myspace friend
Networking is so important. Here is a few idea to stay in contact with the team leader.
LinkedIn - Add your contact to your LinkedIn network. You can send the team leader a message saying how great it was to work with him/her and if you could add them to your network.
Send a holiday card just to stay in touch.
Notify them of your professional life events.
Share with them articles of interest.
Keeping in touch with contacts at other firms (Originally Posted: 01/03/2011)
This might be a dumb question but...
When you've accepted a summer offer, do you keep in touch with contacts at other firms that you did not interview at? Over the last year, I've met various people at different banks but I never went through a serious interview process with their firms (I met them through info sessions or preliminary interviews for special programs like shadow days). It's not like they're my close mentors but they probably know my name and remember conversations I've had with them.
Should I let them know what I'm doing instead and catch up with them somehow? Would it be helpful in case I have to go through full time recruiting or does it just seem obnoxious?
You would be crazy to not keep as many contacts as possible. You never know when/ how they will be able to help you or the other way around possibly. I have found that in my experience (albeit very limited) that networking and personal contacts are tremendously important not only in finance but in life in general.
You could shoot them a quick e-mail to see how things are going. Then if they ask you what you are up to than tell them where you are summering and possibly ask them advice on how to be successful in the internship, etc.
I've found that talking with people in any industry is much easier/better received when you keep them talking about themselves and their experiences/advice. Old guys love to talk about themselves.
Hopefully this was helpful.
Yup, definitely keep in touch. Every few months, I'd shoot them an email letting them know what you're up to, ask them if they've been working on any interesting deals, get them talking about themselves. What's the point of making contacts if you don't keep in touch over time?
Thanks, I was worried maybe they would not be interested in talking to me or something. I'll try to start some e-mail contact.
Keeping in touch with Interviewers/Contacts (Originally Posted: 04/02/2008)
I'll be a SA at a MM bank in NYC this summer, but made it to final rounds at a few top boutiques. I felt a pretty strong connection with my interviewers (3 VPs, 1 MD) at one bank, and have been in touch with one of the analysts. When I was given the indefinite hold, I ended up accepting elsewhere, and told these guys. They were all supportive of my choice, and said to keep in touch/apply for FT.
When I was on hold with them, I spoke with these guys over the phone to reiterate my interest in the group/bank, and essentially built up some goodwill.
This was all back in Feb when recruiting was going head on - my question is, what is the most appropriate way to stay in touch? During my internship, I was planning on emailing them every few weeks with my progress/update, and to reiterate my interest, but I feel like if I don't communicate with them between now and June, they might just end up forgetting about me. I have group placement in NY coming up - is this something I should update them on? (letting them know what group i will be in?)
2nd - One of the VPs actually came from the MM bank that I'll be working at - is it appropriate to speak with him regarding the different groups and to get his opinion?
I know I may be paranoid - but I really wanted this group and felt a good connection with these guys. Coming from a non-target, I'd rather not lose my only connections at this bank.
Thanks in advance
I'd like to hear some input on this as well.
bump
Im no expert like some of the ppl on here...
but personally I would just let them set the tone, if they volley emails back and forth and you guys keep in contact on a regular basis-- awesome. Otherwise just drop them an e-mail every 3 weeks or so, or maybe if you have a question that you feel would be appropriate to ask them.
One thing I try to do with networking is find something relevant and non-job related to talk about. I dunno how that would work in this case, but I've found it helpful. Talking about a sports team, or something specific they're interested in. That way if something happens in the news... you could drop them a quick email about so and so blowing out his knee, or ABC upsetting XYZ in the final four, or such and such legislation getting passed, and its not like you're a gnat that keeps emailing them just to 'touch base' with nothing to really talk about. Email them a link to an article about whatever it is you talked about, and maybe make a few comments. Atleast it'll be more congenial and establish some goodwill.
Seeing as how you've got until September or so to begin interviewing with these guys for full time, I'd say even every three weeks may be a little overkill. I mean, unless you really got along with these guys (and not to be harsh, but if you really did, why aren't you going there?), you might be viewed as a little too enthusiastic and your efforts a little too contrived. If you really got along with the analyst, feel free to start casual dialog as you see fit, but don't feel obligated to email the VP every three weeks.
Elan - thanks for the info, I was thinking along those lines
GameTheory - you right, I may be over enthusiastic about the connection (as I did not get an offer haha), and I definitley do no want to be "that guy" who just bugs them with pointless emails.
The analyst and I had a lot of common interests, so hopefully I can meet up with her over the summer. Thanks for the ideas.
How about if you were actually joining the firm but didn't start for a few months and wanted to try to establish some goodwill. Would it be wise to think of reasons to touch base? And if so, how often?
I think you may run the risk of coming off as pesky and not making a very good first impression.
How to keep in touch networking? (Originally Posted: 06/26/2015)
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Make initial contact in April and May. Meet them for coffee in June and July. Make the ask in July.
Considering it's almost July already, I would get in contact with as many people as possible as soon as possible.
Staying in touch (Originally Posted: 10/17/2011)
How important is staying in touch with the people you worked with during the summer, if you are going back as a ft analyst next year? Do they really care? What do you say and how often should you email without being annoying?
Anyone?
Keeping in touch - Accepted full time (Originally Posted: 02/06/2009)
For those who have accepted full time offers, how often do you stay in touch and speak with your future groups/banks/firms?
Interested in this too. How often do you stay in touch with the team that you'll be working with and how do you stay in touch once you have the offer because you'll only start next year!?
Reaching out to previous interviewers to stay in touch? (Originally Posted: 05/09/2013)
Is it weird to get in touch with people who phone interviewed you (and rejected you) to reiterate your interest with that said firm and/or to update them on your developments?
This is more geared towards SA recruiting for potential FT prospects.
Yeah I would be interested in thoughts about this as well. I had a couple of interviews where i made it to superdays and received positive feedback. What's the best way to reach out regarding full time opportunities and when?
Keeping in touch with interviewers (Originally Posted: 02/22/2011)
Would it be right to network with former interviewers that you already got rejected by for SA? I emailed them and asked them for feedback and both of them have been very helpful and nice and encouraged me to apply for FT. I was thinking about adding them on Linkedin to keep in touch. (one is a VP and the other is a senior associate)
by networking I mean for FT, adding them on Linkedin, touching-base with with every once in a while.
Is this weird? Or should I take advantage of it?
If you've developed a rapport with them why not. Worst case the don't accept your LI invite or ignore you.
If they've been positive towards you-then yes.
They will respect your persistence and thorough interest in their firm. A willingness to learn from your mistakes and correct them is also a positive attribute which I am sure that they appreciated. Continuing the relationship with them could never hurt you.
Getting back in touch with your colleagues (Originally Posted: 05/28/2015)
Hi all, 2 months ago I was fired (in a good way) from the PE firm. I was able to connect with an Associate Director very well and I wanted to send him an email just to update him about where I stand in my career.
Also, before I actually left the firm, he did mention to keep him posted about what I decide to do in the next six months, where I will be and things like that.
Now I'm not sure if the 2 months gap has damaged this relationship, but when I shoot him with an email should I say something like, "I used to be you colleague 2 month ago " or something?
How to go forward?
Thanks
I would imagine he knows who you are, no need to remind him. Can't imagine it would hurt to update him on your status and see how things are going with him
You don't need to say your name. He still remembers that you were the only one he has ever fired.
...it's only two months, not two decades. He remembers you.
Best way to get back in touch with a former co-worker (Originally Posted: 02/02/2010)
So I just finished a final round interview with a MM bank in NY, yesterday. I was told it could a few of weeks for them to get back to me, as there are several candidates they still need to meet with and HR stuff needs to be processed. One of my interviewers told me that he has a good friend working at one of the places that I interned at and asked if I ever worked with him. I know this friend and got the chance to work with him a few times during my internship. He and I had a decent relationship and he would have nice things to say about me. Thing problem is, I haven't really kept in touch with this person since my internship two years ago. I'd like him to put in a good word for me, but don't know what's the best way to go about it since it's been so long since we've talked. Should I even bother contacting my former co-worker or would it just come off as desperate and tacky?
..yeah, what's the harm?
Is he/she on linkedin?
Send them an email and ask..
Keeping in touch with the bank (Originally Posted: 03/17/2008)
Hi incoming FT class, did you try to keep in touch with your contacts at the bank that you will be working with? I've not been keeping in touch with the VPs/Associates since I accepted the offer a few months back. Any suggestions on how I should go about doing so? I am thinking of dropping a simple email to them.
Yea send an email to them asking if they're still employed.
Bluntly put but I agree. If you're at a distressed bank you should probably should try to contact them to see how they are.
No, I am not at a distressed bank. I'm lucky to be one of those seen as the strongest (but nothing's guaranteed in this environment).
I have/would, especially if you'll be back or are already in the area of your office.
At the very least you could ask for an update on dealflow and how the market has been. Good way to show you're interested/involved in the business before you even start. You have nothing to lose...
Staying in touch over the summer (Originally Posted: 02/24/2008)
I did final rounds at a very strong boutique, but unfortunately got the "hold" position and ended up accepting an offer at another bank. I really liked this particular group though (at the boutique), and felt I connected with all the guys that i met/interviewed with. (2 VPs, associates and analyst).
A bunch of them mentioned that I should stay in touch over the summer, and to definitely apply FT. I'm not sure if they say this to everyone, but regardless, I really want to keep in touch with these guys while I'm in NY for the summer.
What's the best way to keep these guys up to date on my progress at the other bank? Should I just send periodic emails about how I'm doing and what I'm doing, or should I be more aggressive and try to grab lunch/coffee with one of them?
My main priority is to obviously do well and get an offer from my bank, but I know that I will most likely want to pursue this group come summer's end.
Anyone who did this during their SA stint - any suggestions or advice would be great
Thanks in advance
Yeah definitely try to meet them up for coffee once or twice and shoot them e-mail's once in a while. That will definitely help your chances for full time employment. I did that last summer and I had interviews with BB's for SA coming from a non target. So it definitely helps to keep in touch with those guys! Take care.
how to keep in touch with previous contacts? (Originally Posted: 10/29/2009)
Hey guys, I've made a number of alumni contacts over the last 2 months. I called them and asked them basic questions like tell me about your background, and what advice would you give to someone in my position etc. However, I don't feel that I made a 'connection' with most of these guys. How should I follow up to develop more substantial relationships? I feel its really hard as I have never met them in person.
You don't need the in-person meeting to make a connection. You don't need to be connected to them as you would your brother or good friend, only as a professional; a colleague - which essentially requires a catchup email every few months or so (a little less is fine as well). I would send a follow-up email to your contacts just to catch up. Send them a quick update about yourself, ask a few questions of them based on your last call/email, and then ask a follow-up question for advice to keep the connection going. This is all that this sort of a relationship needs considering you are both busy and aren't trying to connect on a personal level, only on a professional level - ideally to offer a bit of assistance to you as you go through the recruiting process soon. The relationship doesn't need to be terribly deep, just consistent so that you aren't forgotten (don't, however, read consistent and continuous - you don't want to be constantly emailing the person and coming off as really annoying - respect their time).
Let me know if you have any other questions and check out this article for a bit more on the topic: http://www.bankonbanking.com/2009/08/25/effectively-working-the-informa…
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Summer Analyst-How often to keep in touch with group prior to start date? (Originally Posted: 02/28/2010)
Hi guys. I'm a junior in college and am interning at a BB's regional office this summer. I received my offer about a month ago. During the interviewing process, because I wasn't applying to New York but a different city, for whatever reason HR didn't conduct the interviews. Instead, I interviewed directly with the group itself and as a result got to meet about ten members of the group. I start in June. Just as a guideline, until I start how often should I be staying in touch with the members of the group?
During the process I was mostly in touch with one of the VPs, who was in charge of recruiting. More recently, there's an analyst in the group from my university who I have been talking to periodically regarding some questions I had about the summer internship (he also did one with the bank his junior year). So it's this analyst and the VP that I would want to contact to stay in touch. To keep in touch with the analyst, I can ask him a few more questions (while keeping them short of course) to show my interest in working with his group over the summer. I'm a little less clear about what to talk to the VP about. I'm currently studying abroad and can briefly tell him about my experience so far while reminding him that I look forward to working with their team in June. Any other tips? For whatever reason it just feels weird to me not to contact at least this analyst and VP before I start since they were the ones I got to know the best during the interviewing process.
Don't worry so much. I would talk to one of them from the group at least once a month. Just think of questions to ask that's a good way of getting to better know them,. Then theyll start calling you.
Interested in this as well, any more advice?
How to "keep in touch"? - Non-target (Originally Posted: 05/22/2014)
One of the alumni from my school (non-target) is a MD at a BB. He replied me very kindly after I emailed him. He asked me to "keep in touch" with him. My problem is...I have no idea how to "keep in touch"..seriously.
He will be in another country for a while so I cannot meet him. And due to the time difference, email is the only way I can reach him effectively. How should I engage in the "keep in touch" process? Could anyone please give me some advice on what should I say in email, and the appropriate frequency of email? I really appreciate your help.
contact him enough to stay on his radar, short sweet messages with specific questions/comments. but do not annoy him or interfere in any way. it's mostly judgment, there is no 'formula'
oh yeah, connect via linkedin, ask for recommendations etc. we need more details about where you are in school/career and what kind of physical difference.
@WalMartShopper Thanks a lot!
About me: I am a rising senior in a non-target. I got a intern in a local boutique IB for this summer...but I really want to break into a BB after college.
I definitely agree with that I should not annoy him. He is super busy. But it turns out that I have run out of inspiration on this issue (maybe because I'm too nervous...). I totally have no idea what to write in email. Would you mind to give me some examples (or templates) of email and a appropriate time frame (one email per month? every 2 weeks? etc..)? Again, many thanks.
@"AcctNerd" had a great thread on this, found here: http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/create-your-own-excuse
I think that absent anything to say, you have to have a linkedin presence and call them for special occasions (birthdays, favorite team has a big win, graduation weekend - find out what kids are doing, etc)
Thanks for the mention. In this case, I would slowly ramp up the contact through the recruitment period. As you begin working toward an actual interview begin reaching out to him and ask for a specific contact at his firm that might be able to help you land an interview, etc.
Ask him if he plans on visiting campus during homecoming in the fall. If yes, then make plans to meet with him during that visit.
Little things like that help you stand out.
Hey. What did you e-mail him originally? I've found some alumni from my school that I'd to contact but I'm unsure of what to say.
Thanks!
How to stay in touch with network? (Originally Posted: 10/04/2009)
I'm a Junior at a semi target looking to land a SA postion this summer.
This past summer I reached out to several alumni for informational interviews. They were all really receptive to helping me, and I met them for coffee to talk about school, the industry, how to break into IBD etc. They said if I had any questions during the school year, that I could shoot them an email.
It's now a month or so into the school year, so my question is: What is the best way to re-contact/stay in touch with these contacts? Should I update them on my progress at school and how I've been utilizing their advice? Should I ask them more industry-related questions?
I've been using the WSO networking guide/these forums thus far, and there isn't much detail on the proper way to stay in touch with your network.
Any information would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
Yes, I've noticed staying in touch with contacts usually thrives when you are both keeping the other updated with any developments in school and work. Be sure to inform them of the things above BUT also be sure to continue asking them about their own careers and achievements. Not suggesting you have done so, but you have to make sure you don't utilize them as your personal career counselors. The networking should revolve around mutual interest in one another.
I would recommend staying away from industry-related/deal questions, but I would craft the follow-up email to touch on 3 things: a personal update or two, a question or 2 to them regarding how they've been/their group/etc to show your interest in the person, not just getting your resume passed along, and finally, a question on breaking in relating to your informational session held a little while ago. I would then thank them again for their time and all of their insight. Something along those lines should keep the lines of communication open, while keeping it brief and to the point. Check out this article for a bit more on the topic: http://www.bankonbanking.com/2009/08/25/effectively-working-the-informa…
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I too have been wondering the same. There are no burning inquiries I have right now, but I would like to keep in touch with my contacts and show that I'm actually interested and am not trying to just utilize them. But since I don't have a pressing issue I need advice on, and I don't want to bore them with industry questions and the sorts, I'm not sure where to go.
"Keeping in Touch" with interviewers (Originally Posted: 03/03/2011)
Hi, I got along with this one interviewer really well (ultimately I didn't get the job though). I know this is a basic/stupid question, but how do I go about maintaining that relationship till full time interviews? How often should I be contacting her, what should I be asking her about, etc.
if you didn't get the job too frequently may be weird.. unless she's hot.
Well they were referring me to a different division since they thought I was a good fit for another one. So I did do well in my interviews, just the role wasn't right for me.
Networking for the sake of keeping in touch (Originally Posted: 01/19/2015)
How would you feel if a new analyst at a BB reaches out to you (VP at a different BB) for coffee just to chat?
I just intend to keep in touch and stay within his radar for the possibility of future position openings at his firm. Will I seem like I'm wasting his time if I end up just talking to him about random things?
Don't over think stuff. If you guys have a good relationship you will keep in touch regardless of which bank you work at. You should be able to judge by now if it is a real thing.
How to revive this connection (Originally Posted: 01/31/2014)
Teaching English Abroad in a structured government program (think Fulbright with less prestige) and looking to make the jump into business as my program comes to an end. In mid December I had a good networking call with a college alum who is a "Director" Big 4 consulting arm. Phone call went great and he offered to give me a "great" recommendation for a couple of internal vacancies in HK (the alum's location) along with introduce me to some contacts in the country I am currently in (Russia).
I was hopeful that the the HK opportunities would result in an interview since it was coming with the Director's recommendation, but I never heard back. The contact in Russia landed me an interview which I thought went great, but supposedly the higher ups didn't pass my resume. Anyway, how should I revive the connection at this point?
"Just wanted to check in about the previous applications" It's been about 1.5 months, so I feel like it's a little awkward at this point to put it that way (he said they were in the middle of interviewing for one of the two positions, so clearly one didn't work out).
"Unfortunately the previous submissions didn't work out, do you have any other ideas/leads?" Seems a little strained, and makes me sound a little entitled...
This seemed like a really good connection, he seemed to like me as a job candidate, anyone got some better ideas?
Thanks!
Don't. Move on unless you wanna start severely pissing people off
Thanks for the reply pinkclouds, you really think it would piss him off? Seemed like there was a positive relationship there, I don't think it would piss him off to send him one more email, just not sure how to do it "gracefully."
How to keep in contact? (Originally Posted: 03/26/2014)
Hi all,
So back in late november I went to a networking event. I met this ER VP whom I tried to link with on linkedin , but instead he emails me saying he enjoyed meeting me and then he asked for my views on some of the things I talked about during the event. I responded of course. And then in December, I wished him happy holidays through email so that I could hopefully stay under his radar/network.
I'm really not good at maintaining relationships though... So I'm wondering if you guys have any insights/advice on how I can maintain this contact? Or do you think this contact is a lost cause because we never connected on linkedin and based on what i've described so far?... I really hope to break into ER for full time recruiting (missed the boat for internship...) by leveraging my network. So any advice would be much appreciated!
Just drop him a simple email and start a conversation.
For example, if his firm or division had something happen in this news, or if there is an interesting deal going down-- say something like this:
" Hello kljdsflks,
I hope all is well. I saw this in the news www.crazydealsonwallstreetOHYAYIREALLYWANTAJOB.com and wanted to hear your view on it/congratulate you on it.
-- here is where you weigh in and leave a short 1-2 setence paragraph on your view so that you don't seem like an idiot
have a great kwanza!
-dbid"
Don't overthink this.
You have to start to close if it is a job you are after. Maintaining relationships isn't difficult, but converting those relationships into jobs or deals requires that you ask. The email from @"ishouldbstudying" is good, but change it up a bit.
"I hope all is well with you. I saw this in the news recently and.....
I also wanted to ask if I could solicit your advice on the best way to get my foot in the door at your firm. I have attached my resume and would be grateful if you could give me some feedback."
Something like that. Obviously make the sentences your own. And to echo @"ishouldbstudying" Don't overthink it. Relationships aren't over thought...they are natural. Either you are naturally a good fit for them or not.
Set up Google News Alerts for every single contact you have and their respective companies. Every time you get a ping on their company or name you have an excuse to email them. For example, I got an alert about a company exiting one of it its portfolio investments. I immediately sent over an email congratulating them on the exit, then asked how things were going, updated with my situation, etc. It looks really good, too, to send an email like that the day it breaks in the press, like you're really up to date and following them closely.
hey guys, thanks for the advice so far! i appreciate it. my biggest concern is whether or not he still remembers me. like i said, the last time i emailed him was just to say happy holidays, and he never replied back. so i'm not sure if i should keep emailing him...
Networking Question - Staying in touch (Originally Posted: 02/25/2009)
So now that I have acquired a summer internship, I know I need to stay in touch with the connections I made during the process. How do I go about doing thus? What should I say in my e-mails? How often?
Thank them for their advice, inform them where you will be going and such. I would send an email one or two times over the summer just to update the person on what you are doing. Try and get coffee or a drink if you are going to the same place
how to stay in contact (Originally Posted: 01/12/2010)
I attended a corporate event where we had lunch and watched a basketball game. I had some really good conversations going with an MD (set next to him during the game) and we talked about everything from sports to politics to life to school. Obviously I should send a thank you email, but what else should i say in the email to stay in touch? I mean it would be wierd to ask a follow up question considering that we were talking for more than 2 hours and if I had any questions I probably should have asked anyway. So what should I say?
bump
First, make sure you mention something that you discussed - a lot of these guys meet a million kids like you every recruiting season, so you need to find something to re-identify yourself. Then, just ask him if you could stay in touch if you have any subsequent questions. Mention that you're definitely interested in banking/S&T/whatever he does, and that should be fine.
Most importantly, keep this email under a paragraph - 3-4 sentences tops. He's a busy guy and he probably doesn't care that much; you're doing this not to forge a personal bond (too late for that if it's not there already), but to start a dialog. Verbal diarrhea isn't the way to do it.
Networking question - keeping in touch (Originally Posted: 01/06/2010)
Whats up WSO. I've gone through all the standard initial networking protocol - email alumni, short informational chat on the phone call, follow up thank you note. I did all of that 2 months ago. However, when I follow up now with the typical happy new years bullshit with a easy to answer & relevant question, almost no one replies back. Does anyone have any success stories that others can learn from?
Also, with these people, do you just cut your losses and move on? Or keep on emailing them as if they didn't ignore you in the first place?
You emailed over the holidays, things get busy at year end and people aren't in the office, give it some time.
I usually find something unusual we share in common in the first informational, i.e English soccer and will use that to keep a dialogue open every 7 weeks or so by sending an email regarding a news story or something. It makes the relationship more personal.
Busy people literally get 300-400 emails a day and sometimes see an email that takes time to reply to and then think they'll do it later. Then they forget. Give it time and email them and follow up with a 15 second voicemail "Hi x, just left you an email and wanted to check in ..." In my experience, the quick "dual hit" is 10x more personal and effective. Do not be afraid to use the phone.
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