Target and Semi-Target Universities for Investment Banking in UK
I am trying to make a comprehensive list of all Universities in UK, where the investment Banks comes to campus to recruit undergraduate students every year for IB.
What are the target and semi- target universities (UK- undergrad) for Investment Banking?
Targets are often referred to as the 'top 6' (Oxford, Cambridge, Warwick, Imperial, UCL, LSE - not in order)
Semi targets would probably be red bricks/a few others - Bath, Bristol, Durham etc etc
Not sure which ones the banks visit.
My grades are NOT good enough for the Top-6, how can I find a more comprehensive list of semi target schools in UK?
Times University Rankings. If it's in the top 15, you're probably ok :) As someone else said, the banks dont really do on-campus recruiting, but will do presentations, networking sessions etc.
Banks don't recruit on-campus in the UK. They go to the top 6 as mentioned above for presentations and the odd networking session, but you'll still have to apply in the normal way.
On campus recruiting is not really a UK thing. Like everyone has said, banks or any firm for that matter, engage in workshops, presentations, office visits etc.
Top 20 is absolutely fine but bare in mind, depending on what you want to at undergrad, a uni thats 30, maybe number 1 in their field. Various fields go into IB like engineering, economics, political science, hell, I know someone who did anthropology at LSE who got in.
Are you applying this year? I'm guessing, you're in year 2 of A-Levels, right?
No I am a prospective mature student from India, I have done a diploma in Computer Science from Distance University. My exact situation is being discussed here and have 7-8 years of junior-middle management work experience
http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/will-i-be-too-old-for-investment-…
I wouldnt class Bath as a semi target. In my experience, you have the Top 6 ( I would be tempted to add Durham in that pile)
Semi-targets - Nottingham, Bristol, Kings, York, Sussex, Manchester, St Andrews, Edinburgh,
Other respectable - Leeds, SOAS, Liverpool, Newcastle, Leicester
Guardian's ranking is pretty good too - breaks it down via subject
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/table/2011/may/17/university-league…
What do you think about University of Buckingham? It has been ranked 15 in Business by Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/table/2011/may/17/university-guide-…
It is also in top-20 at most other rankings. It offers an appealing course for me since they will condense a 3 year degree in two years by not having 3+1 month long break.
How good is the school, can anyone comment?
Honestly, the Guardian is being very generous to the university. Its not highly regarded within the UK but for some reason they have it listed. A friend from my time at high school went there and promptly dropped out so that told me all I needed to know. Its a huge financial commitment, wherever you may go, so I would search exhaustively. What do you want to do at degree level? As you're a mature student, I would suggest to do a degree that would place you competitively (in terms of immediate contact, i.e. networks, university societies) and do something like Economics. The top schools, I'm not aware whether they look favourably at mature students (talking LSE, UCL, Oxbridge), I would zero in on Manchester, Kings, Queen Mary (which I failed to mention earlier), Warwick, Durham and perhaps Bristol. All the schools I mentioned will make you competitive and you have good work experience to make you a candidate. Be prepared for the tough questions in interviews and you ought to be fine.
Just to be clear, I went to a UK university but I did Law and am a qualified lawyer. I know enough the UK system to help you with that but I am sure someone on this site ought to point you in the right direction in terms of right degree to choose, etc. You have this chance so again I stress do your research.
I wouldnt worry about condensing your 3 year degree into 2 years. You're making the leap so no need to cut corners. Another issue with Buckingham is the location. Hardly any firms will be arriving for campus presentations so there's little chance for an internship or SA gigs.
Also, finally, with the ranking for business. Usually, business is not a single undergraduate major so the ranking is definitely misleading. If anything most universities offer courses in marketing, HR, business and economics and cloud it as a business degree. I would steer clear of them to be honest. They wont add much to your profile as is.
I was clearly heading towards Buckingham but your arguments are quite compelling. Now, I will have to reconsider my options.
Buckingham University does have a unique package. It has tutorial-teaching style (8:1 student/staff ratio), very senior-academics (like Sir Alan Turner Peacock), NOT bad location (1 hour drive to London as I heard), highest student satisfaction(ahead of Oxbridge year after year), 100% employment or further studies after 6 months, January Start (So that I do not have to wait another 6 months),Golf, Kick-Boxing etc etc. Also my plan was to get a MIF from Top Universities later
But it is missing a good network probably because it is relatively new with fewer students. I am curious that 100% students get jobs/employment in 6 months but what kind of jobs do they get. How many students get a job where the employer is willing to sponsor the employee (I highly doubt so, because if it were to be true they would have definitely talked about it on its website). Another important thing to note is that it is still missing a brand name, even though speculations saying that it is soon going to rival Oxbridge is on the rise ( No new University can rival the rich history and culture of Oxford) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/8557555/New-un…
I have done my due part of research but countless hours of research on internet sometimes leads to misdirection. Open-Days, would be the best way to explore but that will be too expensive to fly from India.
I emailed Oxbridge, LSE & Cambridge explaining my situation and they told me that I am eligible to apply ( Not necessary that they will give admission but maybe). I have also explained my situation to other top-20 and except 3-4 (City University, Aston, Warwick) most of responded positively. They generally want a mature student to show a recent educational experience in past 3 years . That I can full fill since have also done a Diploma in Computer Science through Distance education Also what do you think about York and Edinburgh? Any other University other than that you noted in which I should look into? Also what should I need two universities as an insurance choice , can you suggest any?
UK targets and Semi targets (Originally Posted: 12/31/2015)
So After a long time researching Linkedin, various student placements, I have come up with a pretty tight grasp on what is considered a target (which everyone knows) and what is a semi target (which some people have a rough idea of) Targets: Oxford, Cambridge, LSE, UCL, Imperial, Warwick
Semi targets: Bristol, Durham, Manchester, Nottingham, Birmingham, Kings, Cass Business School
These will give you a chance at IB and Consultancy.
I've seen a few more coming from Bath as well in the last few years.
Yeah i did get few Bath but i am not sure if it is a semi, similarly Exeter had few but the unis that kept coming up were the ones i mentioned.
This is not useful. For example: Suggesting, ceteris paribus, a student has a better chance at Warwick than Bristol is obviously incorrect. Suggesting, ceteris paribus, a student has an equal chance at Durham and Birmingham is obviously incorrect.
What does 'target' define? Top banks do campus presentations 'targeted' at recruiting for IBD at Oxford, Cambridge, LSE, UCL, Warwick, Imperial, Durham, Bristol. These universities, along with the top European business schools (Bocconi, SSE, HEC etc.) fill 99% of IBD and EB roles in London.
Any difference in representation among these universities is explained by differences in the student population: aspirations, talents, courses etc. Sixth form students should pick a university that they would enjoy being a part of for 3 or 4 years. From experience, the type of student who does not do this will fail the 'airport test' come interview.
For what it is worth, I see a smattering of representation from the following: Edinburgh, St. Andrew's, Exeter, Nottingham, Bath, Cass, King's. These will normally be exceptional candidates in a non-academic dimension... high level sportsmen, entrepreneurs, etc.
By the way, recruiting for consulting is different (since you mention it). For MBB/OW/LEK etc. 95% of spots go to Oxford and Cambridge, with the rest being a few grads from the LSE, Imperial and Durham.
95% is high...
It's more like 70-80%, then the rest are from UCL/LSE/Imperial/Warwick/Bristol/Durham and the MiM programmes at the European business schools.
McKinsey certainly is taking on more people lately from universities outside of Oxbridge. There seems to be much more of a drive to do so from their end, not sure about BB.
Warwick offers a much better chances then Bristol, Warwick has a better reputation in finance. Durham offers better chance then Birmingham but not by a big margin, Bristol has better chance then both.
You are correct for MBB but for tier2/tier3 consultancy as long as you go to top 15 university it doesn't matter
On what authority do you make these statements? None. I imagine you are going through the UCAS process right now. Even a spring week student will be aware of how ridiculous your statements are based on representation from each uni.
My statements are based on my experience at assessment centres, my internship, my job, as well of those of my friends who also work/worked in investment banking. I assume that your main source for information is TSR. I have had a look and it is inaccurate drivel. Mostly ignorant sixth form students giving GCSE kids advice. I am so sick of 16-18 year olds coming on WSO and spreading misinformation because it is really harmful for those actually looking for advice. You are adding noise to their decision making process.
You will realise this if you ever get a job in banking.
LDN BNKR are you serious? You are reacting like he offended your mother... The information he is providing is not that off at the end of the day and this is based on my 4 years in the industry between Big 4 (2 years) and BB (2 years), including recruiting panel at my bank...
In 2017 I suppose:
Target: Oxbridge, LSE, LBS, IBS So Strong Semi Tier 1: Warwick, UCL Strong Semi Tier 2: Cass Semi Tier 3: Edinburgh, Bristol, Durham, Nottingham, Bath, Manchester
NON
IMHO best placement in UK (especially for non experienced monkeys) is offered by LBS career service.
Any updates on the target, semi-target list for the UK ?
Gonna pursue a Masters in Finance next year and i was wondering which schools (apart from Oxford, LSE, LBS, Imperial) have the best placement in IBD ?
UG:
Targets: Oxford, Cambridge, LSE, UCL, Imperial and Warwick
Semi-targets: Durham, Bristol, Nottingham, KCL, Bath, Exeter, Edinburgh, St Andrews, Cass
Honourable Mentions (not quite semi-target): Manchester, Leeds, York, Birmingham, Loughborough
MSc
There aren't any "semi-target" MScs it's either a targeted program or it's not.. those would LBS MFA/MiM, LSE MiF/MiM/MiF+PE, Imperial MiF, Cass MiF, Oxford MFE, Cambridge MPhil in F/REF/M and maybe Warwick.
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