The balls on Dick Cheney

I was watching some morning news with my father this morning when I happened upon CNN's State of The Union. I watch Fareed Zakaria's GPS religiously and decided to include an extra hour of tv viewing in my Sunday schedule. Lo and behold Dick Cheney and his idiot daughter, Liz, giving an interview with Candy Crowley.

http://sotu.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/02/cheney-obama…

Does this man not realize that it is he who should be giving apologies? For starting a war under false pretences? Shouldn't he be calling/contacting the families of the 4500+ Americans who died in Iraq, the 40,000+ with some type of visceral injury, another quarter million with brain injury and another 200 thousand with PTSD? How can anyone have this gall?

Dick Cheney is nothing more than bovine stercus. At least Bush keeps his mouth shut out of shame.

 

I started really admiring Cheney after I saw this, starting at 2:20:

I laughed my ass off when I saw that. It was all uphill from there w/ Cheney for me.

“...all truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” - Schopenhauer
 
TheKing:
Yeah, Cheney is a remarkable cunt.

Seabird...you admire him for having a gay daughter who had a child while simultaneously fighting against gay rights? I don't even understand.

Cheney's actions subsequent to leaving office shows anti-social behaviour. If he wasn't so physically weak, he probably would have been a criminal. How he can ask Obama to apologize is beyond me.

I am not cocky, I am confident, and when you tell me I am the best it is a compliment. -Styles P
 

I admire the way he stared the shit out of Blitzer for asking a totally inappropriate question. That guys intimidating as all hell. I bet it'd be great to have a big bbq with him and W. I've had this fantasy since high school, those guys, my buddies and I would be hanging, drinking beers, and W would be like "hey boys you want a t-bone?" and I'd be all like "Hell yeah W, pass me one!"

They were so much cooler than Obama and Biden.

“...all truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” - Schopenhauer
 

Uh, because its hilarious how he defended himself and made a fool out of Blitzer w/ regards to an obviously inappropriate question?

Lol come on dude stop being so coquetteish.

“...all truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” - Schopenhauer
 

Lol, because his families matters are none of your/Wolf Blitzer's damn business?

Come on dude, you/Blitzer clearly don't mind putting aside respect for his families privacy for the sake of your political views, so I'm just not going to play w/ you on this.

And back to the point, the man helped orchestrate an overturning of one of the worst regimes of all time that murdered hundreds of thousands of civilians, and took on a shit load of hate for multiple years, while not wavering the entire time from doing the right thing and staying steady on the course and creating the one of the few true democracies that the ME has seen, cutting the gordian knot of the european cowards, bullshit IAEA polticking and Iraqi machinations. Guys cool in my book.

“...all truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” - Schopenhauer
 
seabird:
And back to the point, the man helped orchestrate an overturning of one of the worst regimes of all time that murdered hundreds of thousands of civilians, and took on a shit load of hate for multiple years, while not wavering the entire time from doing the right thing and staying steady on the course and creating the one of the few true democracies that the ME has seen, cutting the gordian knot of the european cowards, bullshit IAEA polticking and Iraqi machinations. Guys cool in my book.

Dude, I would advise you to read about the Iraq war. We spend 3 trillion dollars and will be on the hook for an estimated 4 trillion more by 2030. Our occupation is responsible for the deaths of at least one million Iraqis. Hundreds of thousands more were wounded. 4.7 million people were displaced. How do you know Iraq will be a democracy the day after we leave? Why is important to have democracies in the middle east? What effect does that have on Americans? Why is democracy the ideal, especially when undemocratic regimes did the best economically over the last 40 years?

I am not cocky, I am confident, and when you tell me I am the best it is a compliment. -Styles P
 

Ant: As Sowell has said before, the country has for decades been moving to the left under democrats, and marginally less to the left under republicans.

“...all truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” - Schopenhauer
 

I think the best part about Bush's administration is he filled it up with people who didn't give a fuck. Cheney wasn't trying to be a potential presidential candidate. Rumsfeld just did his job and left. None of this Rahm shit where you always have one eye on something else.

Additionally, I think history will look kindly on the Bush administration. Human rights groups cried to the heavens about what was going on in Afghanistan and Iraq. For the first time in these peoples lives, they were able to elect their leaders. Yes, we shouldn't be involved in nation building, etc, but lets admit, Saddam and the people ruling Afghanistan were monsters who had it coming to them.

 
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Ant, you are so full of it. I would advise you to read a god damn book about the Bush administrations handling of the war in Iraq. How anyone can look kindly on our 3 trillion plus spent in Iraq, 4500+ plus dead, 40,000+ wounded, 250,000 with brain injuries and another 200 thousand with PTSD is beyond me. But you are a well known Bush taint licker, so I am not surprised.

How can you talk about the Iraqis/Afghanis without talking about the sheer magnitude of the number of people we killed? Do you know the lancet survey and Opinion Research Survey puts the number of Iraqi civilians dead as a result of our ignorant invasion and failed occupation at over 1 MILLION PEOPLE? In a population of 25 million people, that is the equivalent of nearly 13 million Americans!!! Do you know that we caused the largest refugee crisis in the Middle East? That is right, the administration that you allege will be looked kindly because of there benevolence displaced 4.7 million people.

http://www.unhcr.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/iraq?page=briefing&id=4816ef534

Do you think Iraq will be an ally?

I am not cocky, I am confident, and when you tell me I am the best it is a compliment. -Styles P
 

You are confusing people who died because radical Iraqi's blew themselves up vs. people Americans shot and killed.

I am not full of anything. Two ME countries now have the ability to vote and self determine.

Additionally, we now have a military presence and basic control of one of the largest untapped oil reserves. Afghanistan is ripe with rare earth metals also. From a purely American perspective, having influence in these countries will benefit the US for years to come.

 
ANT:
You are confusing people who died because radical Iraqi's blew themselves up vs. people Americans shot and killed.

What a shameful retort. It is a fairly universal trait of Western culture to assign blame to people when they didn't directly do something. Without our occupation, those atrocities would not have happened, thus we are responsible. Its not that hard to understand.

Your point about voting is comical. Who cares about voting? They can't vote in China, Singapore and Hong Kong. Does that make those societies inferior? Look at democracies in Africa. Most, besides Botswana and South Africa, are poor as hell. I don't know when democracy was conflated too the point where people would justify spending 3 trillion dollars for it. Also, why is it important for Iraq and Afghanistan to have democracy? What effect does that have on us?

I am not cocky, I am confident, and when you tell me I am the best it is a compliment. -Styles P
 
eokpar02:
What a shameful retort. It is a fairly universal trait of Western culture to assign blame to people when they didn't directly do something. Without our occupation, those atrocities would not have happened, thus we are responsible. Its not that hard to understand.

Ever hear the term "draining the swamp"? Or "Saddam Hussein had a genocide of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians in the 90's" or "you care more about your vision of right and wrong than you do about actually helping people?" Lol.

Your point about voting is comical. Who cares about voting? They can't vote in China, Singapore and Hong Kong. Does that make those societies inferior?

Yes.

Look at democracies in Africa. Most, besides Botswana and South Africa, are poor as hell. I don't know when democracy was conflated too the point where people would justify spending 3 trillion dollars for it. Also, why is it important for Iraq and Afghanistan to have democracy? What effect does that have on us?

That's as conflated as it is pointless. Freedom is not a sufficient condition for prosperity, but it is a necessary one.

“...all truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” - Schopenhauer
 
ANT:
You are confusing people who died because radical Iraqi's blew themselves up vs. people Americans shot and killed.

Almost like Mao saying he wasn't responsible for the deaths during the great leap forward.

I am not cocky, I am confident, and when you tell me I am the best it is a compliment. -Styles P
 
eokpar02:
ANT:
You are confusing people who died because radical Iraqi's blew themselves up vs. people Americans shot and killed.

Almost like Mao saying he wasn't responsible for the deaths during the great leap forward.

I love your moral equivalence/lack of morals.

“...all truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” - Schopenhauer
 

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I am not cocky, I am confident, and when you tell me I am the best it is a compliment. -Styles P

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