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So, for the purpose of this post, I am asking you all a question:

When you look at a girl can you, yourself, accurately judge how many times her vag has been crushed?

In my case, I am usually close to the number about 50% of the time. Now, I don't necessarily mean you have to guess it perfectly but closer is better. Also, I know many of you are probably thinking "how do we find out the actual number".

Simple:

1) When you crush her, you will know.
2) If you are with her, there will be subtle clues
3) Ask her friends (in a way that doesn't make you look like a tool)

Lastly, When you guys are choosing a girl to be your girl, do you take the whole "how many times has she been crushed" question into consideration?

Obviously you would,t date a whore but I mean for me, a girl who went out with 3 guys for extended periods of time is kind of a turn off because she was probably getting railed every single day of her life at the time she was with each guy.

Personally, I like my girls to be conservative with their box, except when they are with me.

Disclaimer: This is not at all like the USC frat email because I am not influencing rape or anything of the sort. I am merely asking details of the process each guy goes through when he see's a girl. (In his head of course)

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Comments (95)

  • karypto's picture

    Shaggy actually had a song about this. Forgot what it was called, but he pretty much said women won't tell you how many partners they've had because they know you can't handle the truth. As for me, I stay away from oily faced creatures who wear tight pants and Uggs. It has worked wonders for me. My brethren however, have not fared so well.

  • EmperorTamarin's picture

    Will Hunting:
    1) When you crush her, you will know.

    What do you mean by this? Do you mean you can get an accurate number from physical feeling? Loose, tight, etc.?

    Will Hunting:
    a girl who went out with 3 guys for extended periods of time is kind of a turn off because she was probably getting railed every single day of her life at the time she was with each guy.

    Would you rather be with a girl who maybe had 6 partners, but they were all just one-night stands? (I'm not trying to be smart, this is a legitimate question.)

    Will Hunting:
    Personally, I like my girls to be conservative with their box, except when they are with me.

    Obviously, this is a contradiction. Your best bet is to find a girl who for whatever reason hasn't dated a lot or very seriously.

    Personally, I think the best way to tell how liberal she is with letting guys crush her is how fast she let you crush her. Lets be honest, the vast majority of guys are not very special, even these IB dudes. If you're fingering her under the table at dinner on the first date or crushing her in a bathroom stall on the night you met her at a club, chances are others have done the same.

    If you have the mental discipline, I would suggest that you don't think about these things. Once you get yourself into a paranoia feedback loop about her crush number, you're going to go insane, and you might even end up messing up a good thing. However, I don't take this advice myself, because I'm like you, and I care about her history. At some point you're just going to have to accept the fact that most girls have been crushed a lot more than you'd like. You sound pretty young though, so maybe you can find a virgin without being a cradle robber.

  • heister's picture

    It is very easy to for a girl to cover up a long sex history by simply working out her vagina. So your insistance that you can tell just by feel is a total joke.

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    ah's picture

    AnonIcelandicBanker:
    http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/03/womans_remark...

    oh god that is so wrong...

    I don't accept sacrifices and I don't make them. ... If ever the pleasure of one has to be bought by the pain of the other, there better be no trade at all. A trade by which one gains and the other loses is a fraud.

  • Clarkey's picture

    Personally, I don't have the intellectual/emotional discipline for me to not know her crush number. My reason is completely egotistical, though. My logic is why should I work hard when some other dude hit it in a bar easy as pie?

    I also believe that this is a natural mechanism. For women, if a guy has banged a shit ton of birds, then this is very attractive, as he has essentially been 'pre-approved'. Men, however, with our more logical minds, understand that if a girl has been pounded loads and remains unmarried, then there's a reason why all the dudes have not hung around afterward - the conclusion being that there is something wrong with her.

    If a key fits many locks, then it's a fucking good key. If a lock fits many keys, then it's a terrible fucking lock.

    I'm relying on being able to grow out of this though. My problem is that every day I get better and better and thus my opinion of myself gets bigger and bigger, which doesn't exactly lend itself to eradicating the problem.

  • Startop's picture

    This thread is stupid. No, there is no accurate way of telling. Even after you fuck them, how tight their vaginia is has no correlation with how easy they are. I have fucked virgins with loose junk and some of the sluttiest women i have slept with have had the tightest. Anyone who has a reasonable sample size would know this.

    You should all actually go out and get laid instead of pontificating about useless shit on WSO.

  • interestedguy's picture

    "Obviously you would,t date a whore but I mean for me, a girl who went out with 3 guys for extended periods of time is kind of a turn off because she was probably getting railed every single day of her life at the time she was with each guy."

    Agree with this.

  • In reply to heister
    Will Hunting's picture

    heister:
    It is very easy to for a girl to cover up a long sex history by simply working out her vagina. So your insistance that you can tell just by feel is a total joke.

    yea but how many girls who have alot of sex are actually willing to do the work to tighten their vagina?
    If they are easy then they plan on having more sex and thus, will not elect to work their vag since it will be worthless.

    "Look, you're my best friend, so don't take this the wrong way. In twenty years, if you're still livin' here, comin' over to my house to watch the Patriots games, still workin' construction, I'll fuckin' kill you. That's not a threat, that's a fact.

  • happypantsmcgee's picture

    Like sleeve of wizard? Hotdog down a hallway? I could go on....

    "If a chick gets nailed by a male porn star once, she is ruined. You cannot drive a Ferrari and go back to your Honda Accord. It just doesn't work that way." - Translation. It doesn't matter how many dudes she's been penetrated by.

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  • In reply to Startop
    Will Hunting's picture

    Startop:
    This thread is stupid. No, there is no accurate way of telling. Even after you fuck them, how tight their vaginia is has no correlation with how easy they are. I have fucked virgins with loose junk and some of the sluttiest women i have slept with have had the tightest. Anyone who has a reasonable sample size would know this.

    You should all actually go out and get laid instead of pontificating about useless shit on WSO.

    this thread is not about the correlation between vag tightness and easiness. It is more about "can you closely guess the amount of men a woman has had sex with"

    many people on this board work in the financial services which is all about speculation and educated guesses based on the slightest catalysts. Therefore, I thought it would be relevant to associate this topic with that logic. I can usually tell if a girl is slutty and there are many reasons that lead me to make that conclusion. Therefore, it is definitely plausible.

    "Look, you're my best friend, so don't take this the wrong way. In twenty years, if you're still livin' here, comin' over to my house to watch the Patriots games, still workin' construction, I'll fuckin' kill you. That's not a threat, that's a fact.

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  • LeveragedTiger's picture

    Having a BSD makes this thread irrelevant.

    "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

  • rothyman's picture

    At some point or another you're going to realize the amount of times she's been 'crushed' doesn't really matter.

    Are you serious? You are afraid of a girl who was in a serious relationship because she was having a lot of sex? Get the fuck over yourself. Everyone likes sex and it would be ridiculous to degrade a woman because she likes to have a lot of sex with her significant other. As long as she's not riding a different stick every night, she's fine by me.

    I think it's funny. Every guy thinks they have a 'perfect angel' only to find out that she went chocolate dipping for some amount of time or that she was the sorority slut on campus. Sex is sex.

    And no, you don't always know if a girl has a had a lot of sex from just crushing her. Women are made to have babies so the size of yours or someone else's tiny dick is insignificant to what she's able to handle. Women don't get 'loose' from having too much sex. Whenever a guy says 'man she was so loose, she must be a real slut' I break out in laughter because he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about and probably is proud to have moved up to the 2 digit kill numbers.

    Bottom line: Who gives a fuck. Real confident men don't ask nor wonder how often their girl has been railed out, because it doesn't really matter. What she is to you is what she is. If you fault her for liking sex then you are most likely a hypocrite yourself. If she was a little wild in college, but now wants stability, SO WHAT. Are we any different?

  • In reply to rothyman
    Will Hunting's picture

    rothyman:
    At some point or another you're going to realize the amount of times she's been 'crushed' doesn't really matter.

    Are you serious? You are afraid of a girl who was in a serious relationship because she was having a lot of sex? Get the fuck over yourself. Everyone likes sex and it would be ridiculous to degrade a woman because she likes to have a lot of sex with her significant other. As long as she's not riding a different stick every night, she's fine by me.

    I think it's funny. Every guy thinks they have a 'perfect angel' only to find out that she went chocolate dipping for some amount of time or that she was the sorority slut on campus. Sex is sex.

    And no, you don't always know if a girl has a had a lot of sex from just crushing her. Women are made to have babies so the size of yours or someone else's tiny dick is insignificant to what she's able to handle. Women don't get 'loose' from having too much sex. Whenever a guy says 'man she was so loose, she must be a real slut' I break out in laughter because he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about and probably is proud to have moved up to the 2 digit kill numbers.

    Bottom line: Who gives a fuck. Real confident men don't ask nor wonder how often their girl has been railed out, because it doesn't really matter. What she is to you is what she is. If you fault her for liking sex then you are most likely a hypocrite yourself. If she was a little wild in college, but now wants stability, SO WHAT. Are we any different?

    haha that was a great post man. I am still young so a girl who has been crushed alot already is not a good sign. I was asking opinions of the older more experienced guys on this site.

    "Look, you're my best friend, so don't take this the wrong way. In twenty years, if you're still livin' here, comin' over to my house to watch the Patriots games, still workin' construction, I'll fuckin' kill you. That's not a threat, that's a fact.

  • ke18sb's picture

    can we stop using the word crushed, is that an east coast thing or something. its pretty lame.

  • In reply to ke18sb
    Will Hunting's picture

    ke18sb:
    can we stop using the word crushed, is that an east coast thing or something. its pretty lame.

    i have lived in ny my entire life and never heard it until i came on this site. i dont think its an east coast thing

    "Look, you're my best friend, so don't take this the wrong way. In twenty years, if you're still livin' here, comin' over to my house to watch the Patriots games, still workin' construction, I'll fuckin' kill you. That's not a threat, that's a fact.

  • ivoteforthatguy's picture

    didn't any of you see chris rock's monologue on this?? what the fuck are they teaching in schools these days???

  • mike55555's picture

    Girls are so deceiving. They should account for more of the sales jobs on Wall Street. I've met girls that look like an angel sent from heaven that have had 20+ sexual partners and I've met girls that look like prostitutes, but are in fact virgins.

    Men are so simple and so much inclined to obey immediate needs that a deceiver will never lack victims for his deceptions.

    -Niccolo Machiavelli

  • TheKing's picture

    The whole "crushed" and "railed" thing is retarded. I think some people on this site watch too much porn.

  • APAE's picture

    Chocolate dipping, haha that's great, haven't heard that before.

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  • Putz's picture

    You guys are thinking about this in an unnecessarily arcane manner. By having sex with her and "knowing"... that has nothing to do with tightness of vagina or anything physical. It is simply reflecting on how easily you laid her, comparing your social skills to others, and extrapolating. Like the "how many basketballs fit in a 747 jet" interview question. Promiscuity should not be how you judge someone anyways, both bitches and sweet girls can be promiscuous.

  • In reply to ah
    UFOinsider's picture

    ah:
    AnonIcelandicBanker:
    http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/03/womans_remark...

    oh god that is so wrong...


    DUUDE!!! WTF!!! NOT a good way to start the week....

    Get busy living

  • In reply to Putz
    UFOinsider's picture

    Putz:
    You guys are thinking about this in an unnecessarily arcane manner. By having sex with her and "knowing"... that has nothing to do with tightness of vagina or anything physical. It is simply reflecting on how easily you laid her, comparing your social skills to others, and extrapolating. Like the "how many basketballs fit in a 747 jet" interview question. Promiscuity should not be how you judge someone anyways, both bitches and sweet girls can be promiscuous.

    ^ This. Do you really want to marry a girl who's a virgin at 25? Do you have a bomb in your backpack? Seriously, join the real world.

    I like girls that like it. Hell, I tell them to bring their girlfriend if they want.

    Get busy living

  • In reply to UFOinsider
    ah's picture

    UFOinsider:

    ^ This. Do you really want to marry a girl who's a virgin at 25? Do you have a bomb in your backpack?
    Seriously, join the real world.

    Can Geico really save you 15% or more on car insurance?
    Is a bird in a hand worth two in the bush?

    ......

    I don't accept sacrifices and I don't make them. ... If ever the pleasure of one has to be bought by the pain of the other, there better be no trade at all. A trade by which one gains and the other loses is a fraud.

  • In reply to Putz
    heister's picture

    Putz:
    You guys are thinking about this in an unnecessarily arcane manner. By having sex with her and "knowing"... that has nothing to do with tightness of vagina or anything physical. It is simply reflecting on how easily you laid her, comparing your social skills to others, and extrapolating. Like the "how many basketballs fit in a 747 jet" interview question. Promiscuity should not be how you judge someone anyways, both bitches and sweet girls can be promiscuous.

    So... How many basketballs do fit in a 747? I'm gonna have to say alot.

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  • In reply to Clarkey
    HireUp212's picture

    Clarkey:
    If a key fits many locks, then it's a fucking good key. If a lock fits many keys, then it's a terrible fucking lock.

    I just want to point out how classic this line is.
    +1

  • In reply to ah
    UFOinsider's picture

    ah:
    UFOinsider:

    ^ This. Do you really want to marry a girl who's a virgin at 25? Do you have a bomb in your backpack?
    Seriously, join the real world.

    Can Geico really save you 15% or more on car insurance?
    Is a bird in a hand worth two in the bush?
    ......

    Can a woodchuck chuck wood?

    Get busy living

  • In reply to UFOinsider
    numm's picture

    UFOinsider:
    ah:
    UFOinsider:

    ^ This. Do you really want to marry a girl who's a virgin at 25? Do you have a bomb in your backpack?
    Seriously, join the real world.

    Can Geico really save you 15% or more on car insurance?
    Is a bird in a hand worth two in the bush?
    ......

    Can a woodchuck chuck wood?

    Do you live under a rock?

  • In reply to numm
    UFOinsider's picture

    numm:
    UFOinsider:
    ah:
    UFOinsider:

    ^ This. Do you really want to marry a girl who's a virgin at 25? Do you have a bomb in your backpack?
    Seriously, join the real world.

    Can Geico really save you 15% or more on car insurance?
    Is a bird in a hand worth two in the bush?
    ......

    Can a woodchuck chuck wood?

    Do you live under a rock?

    Does it really take two to tango?

    Get busy living

  • In reply to Clarkey
    GotBushels's picture

    This is a fucking amazing post and encapsulates how I feel. I don't have an issue with living with this opinion for a long time. I'm only ~25 though.

    Clarkey:
    Personally, I don't have the intellectual/emotional discipline for me to not know her crush number. My reason is completely egotistical, though. My logic is why should I work hard when some other dude hit it in a bar easy as pie?

    I also believe that this is a natural mechanism. For women, if a guy has banged a shit ton of birds, then this is very attractive, as he has essentially been 'pre-approved'. Men, however, with our more logical minds, understand that if a girl has been pounded loads and remains unmarried, then there's a reason why all the dudes have not hung around afterward - the conclusion being that there is something wrong with her.

    If a key fits many locks, then it's a fucking good key. If a lock fits many keys, then it's a terrible fucking lock.

    I'm relying on being able to grow out of this though. My problem is that every day I get better and better and thus my opinion of myself gets bigger and bigger, which doesn't exactly lend itself to eradicating the problem.

  • In reply to GotBushels
    UFOinsider's picture

    GotBushels:
    This is a fucking amazing post and encapsulates how I feel. I don't have an issue with living with this opinion for a long time. I'm only ~25 though.

    Clarkey:
    Personally, I don't have the intellectual/emotional discipline for me to not know her crush number. My reason is completely egotistical, though. My logic is why should I work hard when some other dude hit it in a bar easy as pie?

    I also believe that this is a natural mechanism. For women, if a guy has banged a shit ton of birds, then this is very attractive, as he has essentially been 'pre-approved'. Men, however, with our more logical minds, understand that if a girl has been pounded loads and remains unmarried, then there's a reason why all the dudes have not hung around afterward - the conclusion being that there is something wrong with her.

    If a key fits many locks, then it's a fucking good key. If a lock fits many keys, then it's a terrible fucking lock.

    I'm relying on being able to grow out of this though. My problem is that every day I get better and better and thus my opinion of myself gets bigger and bigger, which doesn't exactly lend itself to eradicating the problem.


    I'm sure this applied in the Middle Ages, so welcome to the real world. Women are starting to apply the above logic to men. The thing is, traditional gender roles appeal to me, so I hold to the above standard.

    Unfair? Maybe. But I'm honest about it.

    Get busy living

  • Weazel3's picture

    4) How many STD's you catch at once...

    It is what it is

  • ah's picture

    Why is this thread still going on?? You can't know her "crush number" because -

    1) Like someone already mentioned, the vagina is capable of tightening....

    2) If she's particularly good in bed, there may be another explanation - like she dances, or just is naturally talented

    3) If you can't handle a girl with a high "crush" number (whatever that might be for you), and want to value that over everything else, you're probably not her type either.

    And don't even try to say "crushing" in front a female. Obviously to be respectful, but also - very very bad mental image... Now you all probably picture something different, but let me tell you it's not the same on the other side...

    I don't accept sacrifices and I don't make them. ... If ever the pleasure of one has to be bought by the pain of the other, there better be no trade at all. A trade by which one gains and the other loses is a fraud.

  • GotBushels's picture

    "churning" then. that's in the pdf kama sutra


    ...
    1) Like someone already mentioned, the vagina is capable of tightening....
    ...

    there's also surgery for this


    ...
    And don't even try to say "crushing" in front a female

    i like crush though. good word. churn snatch? hmm. reminds me of that cheese making documentary where the heidis use big wooden rods to stir vats of cheese or something

    ps i used the lock and key in daily speech yesterday. great saying.

  • In reply to GotBushels
    ah's picture

    GotBushels:


    ...
    1) Like someone already mentioned, the vagina is capable of tightening....
    ...

    there's also surgery for this

    Actually surgery's for faking virginity - similar, but fundamentally different...

    I don't accept sacrifices and I don't make them. ... If ever the pleasure of one has to be bought by the pain of the other, there better be no trade at all. A trade by which one gains and the other loses is a fraud.

  • In reply to rothyman
    absinthe's picture

    rothyman:
    At some point or another you're going to realize the amount of times she's been 'crushed' doesn't really matter.

    Are you serious? You are afraid of a girl who was in a serious relationship because she was having a lot of sex? Get the fuck over yourself. Everyone likes sex and it would be ridiculous to degrade a woman because she likes to have a lot of sex with her significant other. As long as she's not riding a different stick every night, she's fine by me.

    I think it's funny. Every guy thinks they have a 'perfect angel' only to find out that she went chocolate dipping for some amount of time or that she was the sorority slut on campus. Sex is sex.

    And no, you don't always know if a girl has a had a lot of sex from just crushing her. Women are made to have babies so the size of yours or someone else's tiny dick is insignificant to what she's able to handle. Women don't get 'loose' from having too much sex. Whenever a guy says 'man she was so loose, she must be a real slut' I break out in laughter because he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about and probably is proud to have moved up to the 2 digit kill numbers.

    Bottom line: Who gives a fuck. Real confident men don't ask nor wonder how often their girl has been railed out, because it doesn't really matter. What she is to you is what she is. If you fault her for liking sex then you are most likely a hypocrite yourself. If she was a little wild in college, but now wants stability, SO WHAT. Are we any different?

    Completely agree...what a ridiculous thread.

  • DontMakeMeShortYou's picture

    Will Hunting:

    1) When you crush her, you will know.
    2) If you are with her, there will be subtle clues
    3) Ask her friends (in a way that doesn't make you look like a tool)

    1) No you won't. There are so many variables that come into play in determining how a girl "appears" in bed. Ie, her being loose vs tight has nothing to do with the number of men she's slept with or the size of their dicks. If she's really turned on, she'll likely be more loose. More than anything it's about how she's naturally built.

    As far as how good she is in bed... if she's athletic, has dancing experience, has had a long-term boyfriend, how into you she is, etc all contribute to that.

    2) Like? Are you looking at the light notches on her belt?

    3) You're not going to get even close to an actual number through her friends. Even if her friends wanted to be completely honest with you (which they won't be), girls LIE to their friends about their number. You guys think that the girl you're banging has been with less than 10 guys? If she's out of college, it's likely higher than that...

  • Matt the Tiger's picture

    woops double posted, anyway watch the dumb youtube vid

  • Status_Quo's picture

    Will Hunting:

    Personally, I like my girls to be conservative with their box, except when they are with me.

    Doesn't everyone. Actually was thinking about this topic the other day.

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  • Status_Quo's picture

    Rule of thumb:
    1. Divide any guy's stated number by 3
    2. Multiply any girl's stated number by 3

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  • In reply to Status_Quo
    APAE's picture

    Status_Quo:
    Rule of thumb:
    1. Divide any guy's stated number by 3
    2. Multiply any girl's stated number by 3
    I've been thinking that this entire thread.

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  • In reply to rothyman
    leveredarb's picture

    rothyman:

    Bottom line: Who gives a fuck. Real confident men don't ask nor wonder how often their girl has been railed out, because it doesn't really matter. What she is to you is what she is. If you fault her for liking sex then you are most likely a hypocrite yourself. If she was a little wild in college, but now wants stability, SO WHAT. Are we any different?

    It does matter when it comes to marriage tough.

    Would you wanna marry some chick that slept with 30 guys during her college days?

    My *loves sexual variety, will file divorce or cheat with a very high chance, only marry with super tight prenup and keep backup option available at all times* alarm bells would just go off constantly-

  • Ray Finkle's picture

    Let me get this straight, you are close 50% of the time?

  • In reply to Status_Quo
    DontMakeMeShortYou's picture

    Status_Quo:
    Rule of thumb:
    1. Divide any guy's stated number by 3
    2. Multiply any girl's stated number by 3

    Eh. I lie about my number to girls (on the downside). The only time it's come up is with girls that I want to get into something more serious with.

    I would say divide a guy's number by ~1.5. I don't know many guys who would say they've slept with 30 girls, but in reality only had 10. Saying 15 when you've only had 10 seems a lot more likely. It's pretty easy to tell who can pull tail and who can't... exaggerating by 3x seems too tough to pull off. However, girls are sneaky as shit and I'd certainly multiply their number by 3. I've met so many girls who have been with "5 or 6" guys and I know that's complete bullshit. For one, if you've slept with less than 10 people, you'll know exactly how many and exactly who they are and won't need to give me an approximation. Second, if you're attractive and haven't been in a long-term, faithful relationship, then you'd have to be some kind of extreme prude for that to be true (especially given that I generally talk to girls in their ~mid 20s, implying a one guy per year average). If that's the case... then goodbye. For the right girl, I'll certainly wait a few dates / weeks (and those are pretty rare... especially because if there's an intense connection it leads to sex very quickly), but I'm not going to wait around for someone who can't let themselves enjoy the sack... For that matter, can't date a girl unless the sex is fantastic (obviously much more to it than that, but it's one of the requirements).

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