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great read.. even though "the entitled generation" seems to be a more appropriate title.. that said, this may not be the first time this has happened. Every major civilization built up to a peak and the fizzled away. My guess is the growth ends when people become entitled/decadent.. and so the cycle continues..
nonetheless, needed to read this today SB'ed.
Haha, are you talking about the baby boomers?
40 year bull market If you went to any undergrad you basically were guaranteed a good job If you bought a house you became a millionaire Finally you enjoy the fruits of the market doubling since the 08 crisis while you have the largest share of the equity markets
Yeah these guys really had it tough
Millennials:
Work hard, get into a good school then ----> saddled with massive debt Get a good job keeping working hard ----> 2008 happens lay off time (at least for me) Enjoy inflation adjusted earnings actually fall since you've been in the workforce, Nice! Finally full employment levels are back, but the number of high paying jobs is a smaller portion of the pie
I tend to think every generation finds fault with generations behind them. They criticize them for being lazy, listening to different music, using phones too much, whatever it may be only because it's different than the way it was for them. I like Clint Eastwood but I don't think every millennial is a pussy. There's plenty of pampered baby boomers out there, trust me. I actually think millennials work really hard as a generation, whether is be academically, athletically, or in their careers.
I think (hope) Clint is talking about the boomers' parents, the depression era generation, which by and large did not invest in equity markets.
I agree, boomers (my parents) had it easy, especially Old Economy Steve (http://www.buzzfeed.com/hunterschwarz/old-economy-steve-is-a-new-meme-t…)
SB, couldn't agree more.
The main ways you can see entitlement or "pussyfication" in America these days are a lot more subtle. Helicopter parents are one of them. All these stories of parents complaining the score was "run-up" on their kids and that it was "unsportsmanlike" are just sickening. The only thing more painful than getting crushed at sports is having the other team go soft on you because you suck.
I can't help but wonder if there's a socio-economic component to that kind of attitude. Kind of hard picturing parents of kids in Detroit or East Saint Louis complaining about their kids football or basketball teams getting smoked.
This.
2016 Super Bowl commercial: society says being a pussy is bad because girls have pussies. #womaninthewhitehouse
American has become weakened by liberalism, modern feminism, and politically correct bullshit. People refuse to accept the reality that some are just more talented than others and hence deserve more wealth and power. People refuse to accept the reality that men and women are fundamentally different due to basic human biology. People refuse to accept the reality that feminism has encouraged women to become insanely superficial and materialistic and that modern dating is just a farce.
I think you're in the wrong thread braj
Couldn't agree more.
I agree with his sentiment about how soft the current generation is but I am going to take the liberty of a nitpick.
I HATE the entire "1%" talking point, because it deliberately obscures the issue. It unacceptably conflates corruption with hard work. Very few people out there are going to object to someone who starts a business and succeeds to where he is earning lower 6 figures every year. He bust his butt, provided a service and earned it. Most people also feel the same way about doctors (but their ass in med school), people working 100 hour work weeks for a barely 6 figure salary, or oil field technicians who spend over half their time away freezing their ass off in remote locations in order to earn that salary.
All of those people earn their money. The legitimate gripe is against the cozy relationship between regulators and large multinational firms......when you get actions like Kansas trying to ban cities from installing new internet infrastructure because Comcast bribed the legislators to protect their monopoly. It's about BB firms successfully lobbying to get the Volcker rule repealed, and about how many congressmen have 9 or ten figure net worths that they apparently got by saving up their congressional salary....and it's about regulatory agencies aggressively punishing companies that effectively compete with existing agencies or individuals who come into conflict with those companies.
If you're going to nitpick, senators make under 200k - their high net worths did not come from their job as congressman, but their high net worths likely got them those positions in some way or another
This article really hits the spot, especially since I am a big fan of broad sweeping generalizations about large groups of people (which all just converge to one homogeneous blob), as well as vague catchphrases like "hard work" and "follow your dreams" and "earn it". Everything is so clear now.
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The sheer hypocrisy of having Elite Daily (who are thriving on the so called pussy generation) publish this article is laughable. So many articles, lists and other nonsense about what you should be, how we're perceived, why a certain city is amazing/terrible, etc. with every article ending with some emotional/motivational rant that contradicts the entire point of the article to begin with.
Talking about the pussy generation but reading Elite Daily.. mhhh
I guess I should've made it clear that I don't necessarily agree with the article, I just found it entertaining.
but yeah, one of those things is not like the other...
I agree with the fundamental aspects of the article, but I really don't see it as only applicable to "our generation." I think this "generation of wussies" thing is way overplayed. Don't even get me started on inflation-adjusted wages or the massive debt burden placed on young adults in their early twenties.
Who are these people that Clint is talking about? Clint is a millionaire and he's come to that thanks to his talent, tenacity, hard work, connections and luck. (Lucky enough to produce junk like Dirty Harry) I don't know with whom does Clint associate with daily, my understanding is with other successful well-to-do people and the occasional upper-middle class and their kids. He has been far too detached from reality for too long, perhaps what he observes is too skewed which makes for a skewed opinion. Or perhaps he was called a pussy by his previous generation for trying to become an actor instead of doing a "honest work" (euphemism for terrible manual labour) and wants to "Give Back" now.
Getting in before anyone else wheels out this "kids these days" quote:
EDIT: Turns out that isn't a Socrates quote: http://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/01/misbehaving-children-in-ancient…
Good read, and follow-on association: http://www.artofmanliness.com/2014/07/14/were-going-to-hell-in-a-handba…
Baby boomers can't die soon enough.
Completely agree. The problem is they will not, until they're ~100 years old, have sucked dry social security, and spent all their cash to ensure millennials will not have inheritance.
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A generation of people bankrupting the country with actual entitlements (social security and medicare) for which they sold their children and grand children into debt slavery accusing my generation of being the "entitlement generation" is comical at best.
People adapt to the environments they are in at that time. I love how people romanticize the past. Things were generally worse in the past and the further you go back, the worse things were. The richest person in the world didn't have electricity a relatively short time ago. When you think about something as simple as electricity as being nonexistent, it kind of blows your mind. People from the 1700's would certainly have every right to call Clint a pussy for having his indoor plumbing, electricity, and his ability to walk into a store and buy more food than he could ever possibly eat.
Trust me, people wouldn't have been playing kick the can if they had an Xbox in the Great Depression. If some major calamity were to happen, like a WWII, people of every generation would adapt just like the people at that time did.
Things are getting better all the time. I don't know why that's so difficult to understand.
you'd like this book, it's called The Rational Optimist, talks about this very thing. how people have nostalgia for the past when if you look at it in context, "simpler times" meant more infectious diseases, no HVAC, life expectancy below 60, poor healthcare, etc etc etc.
Thank God someone else gets this. When people start to rant about inequality (it's gotten better over the course of history) getting worse or life being worse, I have to walk away. Things are remarkably better than they were even 10 years ago etc etc. Importantly, this trend wasn't always true - there were HUGE chunks of time where things didn't get appreciably better or even got worse (the Dark ages, etc) - so perhaps we should just be thankful for the fact that given the current trends in technology, it's pretty goddamn easy to leave the world a better place for the next generation.
The point has been missed. The improvement of a vast swath of the human population is exactly what has made us into pussies. We no longer have to actually work for anything anymore. We have people who are professional complainers now. Take the Feminists movement for example. They have gone from protesting for the right to vote, to wage equality, to justice equality, to now their "invisible injustices". Which for the most part are completely irrelevant and pointless bitching about things because they have nothing else to really bitch about any more. Examples? How about the newest bitching point known as manspreading. The systematic collusion of all men to take up space on buses, subways, planes, trains, benches etc from women by men taking up more room by spreading their legs while seated. God forbid that this be genetics that men actually are just bigger than women as a whole. Fear not though, feminists are complaining about this and are encouraging women to get fatter as well.
Yes these are now massive issues in the 1st world.
This works if you are on a short time horizon in recent history when we've had incredibly rapid technological advancement, but this isn't always the case - for example, the fall of the Roman Empire leading to the Dark Ages. I'd say that overall things we better under the Romans than the 500 years that followed.
I stop reading anything that accuses the poor of being lazy. Total libertarian fantasy.
In reality, truly poor people are either unskilled, lazy, unhealthy, unlucky (their trade is in low demand due to some factor), or don't aspire to accumulate wealth… sometimes it's a combination of some of those things.
I know it is hard for some people to grasp, but there are people who elect to live a lifestyle that would be characterized as poor living conditions to others… despite being fully capable of making more money. It's a conscious decision and they are fine with that (i.e., money isn't important to them). There's nothing wrong with that either. Outside of exigent circumstances (e.g., health), money provides very little utility for some people.
Libertarian fantasy… hah. That is some comical stuff.
I have to admit that my generation is pretty much a dead to rights match to the generation described. We bitch about everything, spend money like it's going out of style, act like everyone should agree with our every opinion. Makes me glad I mastered the art of telling idiots to fuck off as a toddler.
Millenials as a whole are actually considered spendthrifts. Makes sense too considering most of us came of age in the recession or saw our parents deal with it.
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While I agree with some of the OP’s points, I do find it hypocritical to hear folks around his age (70-80’s) complain as if our generation is ruining the country after what they've done. During the most significant parts of Clint’s “earning phase,” the 1960-1970’s, we had a national debt around 35% of GDP. Today (usdebtclock.org) we’re over a 104% of GDP or $154k per taxpayer. And this will only increase as baby boomers retire. What a tremendous gift left by Clint’s generation, that the pussy generation will be burdened with as they begin their earnings phase…
It's a mixed bag. Yes, many people in our generation are pussies, but also the hard working people are fucked as well from student loans and a shit economy. Yes, many people in Clint's generation were not pussies, but also you could make a living for far less relative income back then. shrug Who cares?
As Mark Levin points out, it's not Gen-Y that is the entitlement generation. It's the Baby Boomer generation that has run up all the debt, voted itself massive entitlements, massively increased the cost to go to college, and passed Obamacare, which redistributes wealth from younger, poorer people (Gen-Y) to older, wealthier people (Boomers).
A grumpy old dude calling everyone younger than him a pussy. Right. He should stick to pretending to be a tough guy on film and leave the heavy intellectual lifting to others.
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