Nah, engineering majors are generally smarter/have a passion for creating stuff. The programmers that I know have been doing it since age 11. My chem. eng friend has a home lab since 6.

Everyone in finance at my b-school is a fratboy who chose business upon entering college because they didn't know what else to do.

 

Then why don't you go join them in their mediocrity. Hope you enjoy testing the same fucking circuit board or the same damn code 100x over because the government said so and gets to pay for it with my tax dollars. Because that's where ~75% of engineers end up. If you think everyone that goes into STEM is some creative noble genius you have a lot to learn in this world.

 

Its funny how you act like you are single-handedly paying for everything without reaping any benefit from scientific advancement of the society as a whole... which brings me to what I have seen to be true for a large number of IB/PE folks: * selfish * self-centered * exaggerated views of self-importance

FYI... techies are one of the highest paid people along with a great work life balance.. clearly their work per hour is the most valued in society..

 
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And I find it comical that you think the majority of "techies" are actually generating some scientific benefit to society and have amazing comp/work-life. Like they're all just little Steve Jobs in training. For every one of those you can provide an example of, there are probably at least two mid-40's losers who have been stuck making ~$100k/year for the past 10 years and will be for the rest of their uneventful lives. Just like most "finance" people won't even be close to able to get into IB/PE. Success, regardless of where it is achieved, beats average any day of the week. Life is about finding the intersection of what excites you and what you are good at, then being better than everybody else at that one thing. Believe me, I have several highly successful "techy" friends that will tell you almost exactly the same thing. As long as it's not being a mass murderer/rapist/etc. who gives a fuck what that one thing is? If you want to contribute to society go work on curing cancer and HIV, otherwise fuck off with your holier-than-though rote bullshit.

 

To be honest from my experience most people who major in STEM mostly did it for the money and job security. That's why they always complain about how hard it is and always wonder they need to have so many math or math related courses. So here's a question for you OP. If engineers have a pure and genuine interest in inventing and creating a better world how come so many of the people who major in STEM in IVY league and other finance target schools go into IB and consulting? You're not allowed to say "because of the money." and don't give me the bullshit answer "Oh I always interested in finance and investing but I majored in something else other than economics." Most people major in STEM because of job security and are not willing to do their own research and discover careers they are really interested in. The only people I believe have a genuine interest in engineering are those who don't really complain how hard or big the course load is, and also have creativity or originality to their projects.

 
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To be honest from my experience most people who major in STEM mostly did it for the money and job security. That's why they always complain about how hard it is and always wonder they need to have so many math or math related courses.
So here's a question for you OP. If engineers have a pure and genuine interest in inventing and creating a better world how come so many of the people who major in STEM in IVY league and other finance target schools go into IB and consulting?
You're not allowed to say "because of the money." and don't give me the bullshit answer "Oh I always interested in finance and investing but I majored in something else other than economics." Most people major in STEM because of job security and are not willing to do their own research and discover careers they are really interested in.
The only people I believe have a genuine interest in engineering are those who don't really complain how hard or big the course load is, and also have creativity or originality to their projects.

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lol this is too funny. One PhD just told me the same thing... She felt that finance people are shallow and only care about money. I tried not to chuckle...

It ain't what you know, it's who you know
 

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