Thugs knock old man out in Chicago

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-video-shows-man-b…

Absolutely disgusting video. I feel bad for the people of Chicago. Too bad Chicago didn't try and prevent lawful citizens from concealed carry. A brave citizen could of eliminated some of those vermin and don't that city and the country on a whole a great service.

 
Lotin:
SMH it is shit like this that will forever hold Black people down and keep on making people think all we are, are barbaric, witless and puerile.

Shit, those thugs aren't holding me down. You shouldn't let them make you devalue your worth either.

Flake:
txjustin:
These people need to be shipped to a far away desolate island and have then fight till death. Fucking sickening that people like this are roaming free.

That desolate island is called Africa.

Kill yourself for that asinine comment.

 
MrJetSet:
Lotin:
SMH it is shit like this that will forever hold Black people down and keep on making people think all we are, are barbaric, witless and puerile.

Shit, those thugs aren't holding me down. You shouldn't let them make you devalue your worth either.

Flake:
txjustin:
These people need to be shipped to a far away desolate island and have then fight till death. Fucking sickening that people like this are roaming free.

That desolate island is called Africa.

Kill yourself for that asinine comment.

No.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into SWANSONS.
 
MrJetSet:
Lotin:
SMH it is shit like this that will forever hold Black people down and keep on making people think all we are, are barbaric, witless and puerile.

Shit, those thugs aren't holding me down. You shouldn't let them make you devalue your worth either.

Flake:
txjustin:
These people need to be shipped to a far away desolate island and have then fight till death. Fucking sickening that people like this are roaming free.

That desolate island is called Africa.

Kill yourself for that asinine comment.

Troll is successful.

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Black people need to realize that white racists are not holding them down anymore, they're holding themselves down by knocking up random hos and doing retarded stuff like this. Pull your pants up and get an education.

All I care about in life is accumulating bananas
 
notamonkey:
Black people need to realize that white racists are not holding them down anymore, they're holding themselves down by knocking up random hos and doing retarded stuff like this. Pull your pants up and get an education.

Racists are holding the blacks down - they're called democrats and welfare statists.

“...all truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” - Schopenhauer
 
seabird:
notamonkey:
Black people need to realize that white racists are not holding them down anymore, they're holding themselves down by knocking up random hos and doing retarded stuff like this. Pull your pants up and get an education.

Racists are holding the blacks down - they're called democrats and welfare statists.

This for the aboslute win.

 

Sucker punching an old man...

I bet he feels realllll tough

If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough. "There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.
 

wow....... this just pisses me the fuck off. Well thats what you get in a large city, some people just are going to always be at the bottom, just hope you are not in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I want a lady on the street, but a freak in the bed, Go Bucks!!
 

hmm not shocked, but still disgusted. In order to change a culture you must change the goals, values and morals.

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blackfinancier:
hmm not shocked, but still disgusted. In order to change a culture you must change the goals, values and morals.

At least we are heading in the right direction...oh, wait. LOL.

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
 
rukid:
These young gentleman are prime candidates for the coveted SEO or Inroads Internship

This Affirmative Action bullshit just drives me crazy. Why on earth would you want to give somebody a leg up in a very competitive industry based on their race? The colleges/universities who this are already doing a great injustice by doing this, and now even Wall St. is doing this.

This is just so unfair. What advantage does a poor white or asian kid have over a black kid who grew up in a well-off family?

If you are talking about disadvantage, I have quite a story. But since I fall under Asian-American now, I will always get punished for the successes of the people from Asia who came here before me.

 
JamesHetfield:
rukid:
These young gentleman are prime candidates for the coveted SEO or Inroads Internship

This Affirmative Action bullshit just drives me crazy. Why on earth would you want to give somebody a leg up in a very competitive industry based on their race? The colleges/universities who this are already doing a great injustice by doing this, and now even Wall St. is doing this.

This is just so unfair. What advantage does a poor white or asian kid have over a black kid who grew up in a well-off family?

If you are talking about disadvantage, I have quite a story. But since I fall under Asian-American now, I will always get punished for the successes of the people from Asia who came here before me.

I actually don't even believe in that affirmative action bullshit, I being Black (Haitian exactly) I don't believe in it and i never cared for it because i don't think it has helped me any bit. Everything I've received/earned came from my own hard work.

i'm not the one to speak on race but one thing i dislike is when one Black person does something, they make it as if that one person represents the whole Black community. (i may have gotten off topic with that one, but just wanted to let it be known)

 
JamesHetfield:
rukid:
These young gentleman are prime candidates for the coveted SEO or Inroads Internship

This Affirmative Action bullshit just drives me crazy. Why on earth would you want to give somebody a leg up in a very competitive industry based on their race? The colleges/universities who this are already doing a great injustice by doing this, and now even Wall St. is doing this.

This is just so unfair. What advantage does a poor white or asian kid have over a black kid who grew up in a well-off family?

If you are talking about disadvantage, I have quite a story. But since I fall under Asian-American now, I will always get punished for the successes of the people from Asia who came here before me.

Cry me a river. Affirmative Action is the closet thing to reparations that blacks in this country will ever get. I, as a black man, will take every advantage of it. All of the top private schools (Harvard, Yale, Stanford, etc) practice it, and they are still the best schools in the world. It's not like these schools are admitting just any black kid. Besides, statistically, 72% of black students go to high poverty/ under-performing schools, the same cannot be said about Asian or white students. Personally, I think AA is only bad when you let in a person based on race and they drop out of the school. If I were you I would be happy that my race isn't stereotyped as being trouble makers and/or violent thugs.

 

^ I agree with this.

I am against AA because from what I have personally seen, the blacks at HYP come from families with f500 board members, the JAck and Jill set, etc. They are not the 1%. They are the 1% of the 1%. Also, the SEO kids I have met are blue-eyed cubans and white mexicans who grew up getting polo ponies for their birthdays.

AA is a racket to help the upper middle class and upper class blacks and hispanics.

HOWEVER, the blacks have a special case. They were uncommonly and unmercifully fucked by America for 400 years. Perhaps AA is the closest thing they will ever get to reparations. In that sense, if there HAS to be AA, I say it should be open to american blacks.

But why should it be open to blacks from the Caribbean? Or Hispanics of any kind? If you came over here voluntarily, you deal with what you get. If you were dragged over in chains, that's a different story.

I'm sure I will alienate both left and right with this comment. I await your flames!

 
jaschen27:
At the risk of conjecturing, I'm going to go ahead and say most people who complain about AA were either too dumb or too marginal to have been accepted to these schools or programs regardless. Use some of that energy toward actually becoming a more competitive candidate.

Regards,

"Overrepresented minority"

One of the best comments I've read in this thread.

 

my bad on the typo I've been studying for a calc exam allll day... didn't even notice the conjecturing part either

You don't have to be affected by a policy to think that it's crap. I'm surprised somebody that wasn't too dumb or marginal to be affected by AA couldn't realize that.

jktecon:

If he was under the assumption that the practice of legacy admission was not fair then rational minds would conclude that affirmative action was put in place to negate the effects of admitting students with only strong pedigrees.

Yeah... because all white people have strong pedigrees and all minorities don't

If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough. "There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.
 
scottj19x89:
my bad on the typo I've been studying for a calc exam allll day... didn't even notice the conjecturing part either

You don't have to be affected by a policy to think that it's crap. I'm surprised somebody that wasn't too dumb or marginal to be affected by AA couldn't realize that.

jktecon:

If he was under the assumption that the practice of legacy admission was not fair then rational minds would conclude that affirmative action was put in place to negate the effects of admitting students with only strong pedigrees.

Yeah... because all white people have strong pedigrees and all minorities don't

It is stereotyping, yes, but as we can see throughout this forum generalizations based on race are very real. It is foolish to call it evil or good because it (the practice of generalizing based on similarity) is inherently human. Maybe you as a white non pedigreed student have a lot in common with the black american male who never thought he had a chance at college.

 
jktecon:
scottj19x89:
my bad on the typo I've been studying for a calc exam allll day... didn't even notice the conjecturing part either

You don't have to be affected by a policy to think that it's crap. I'm surprised somebody that wasn't too dumb or marginal to be affected by AA couldn't realize that.

jktecon:

If he was under the assumption that the practice of legacy admission was not fair then rational minds would conclude that affirmative action was put in place to negate the effects of admitting students with only strong pedigrees.

Yeah... because all white people have strong pedigrees and all minorities don't

Maybe you as a white non pedigreed student have a lot in common with the black american male who never thought he had a chance at college.

Maybe a little bit... but then again, the minority on the same exact level as me was in a better position just because... Affirmative Action really hits home for me because I've always wanted to go to UMich and back then, Affirmative Action was quite the debate. I saw the stats of some non-minorities that got rejected vs. minorities that got accepted, and it pissed me the f off... Some of the differences were enough for it to actually be noticeable that this kid got in based off of his race. I don't care that some people can get a benefit of the doubt when it comes to admissions... but if there's a rich ass minority with the same stats as me (mid-lower class white kid), the minority gets the thumbs up because apparently HE'S at a disadvantage. Give the advantage to the kids with less money if you're going to use the whole "disadvantage" thing to defend AA... Of course, some places defend AA with diversity, so that's different.

If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough. "There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.
 

This thread is all over the place....and I refuse to make a comment to either side...but Inroads and SEO are great organizations.

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee WSO is not your personal search function.
 
blackfinancier:
This thread is all over the place....and I refuse to make a comment to either side...but Inroads and SEO are great organizations.

the premise of the thread is fucked up. black youths commit crimes ==> racism is justified/send them to africa/etc.

where it ended is the age old debate about affirmative action.

when i first heard of inroads/SEO, i didn't think it was such an insane idea. when i saw who got the inroads/SEO slots, i went 180 degrees against AA. you might say that even the black children of f500 board members might for some reason deserve AA, but i was seeing wealthy WHITE HISPANICS getting AA throught these programs for BB IBD slots. argentines, spanish mexicans, spanish cubans. holy shit, affirmative action for decamillionaire WHITE PEOPLE?

don't delude yourselves, kids -- AA has nothing to do with justice and everything to do with tribal-ethnic political hardball.

poor unconnected whites, indians and asians: sorry guys, you are the losers in this system.

 
ivoteforthatguy:
blackfinancier:
This thread is all over the place....and I refuse to make a comment to either side...but Inroads and SEO are great organizations.

the premise of the thread is fucked up. black youths commit crimes ==> racism is justified/send them to africa/etc.

where it ended is the age old debate about affirmative action.

when i first heard of inroads/SEO, i didn't think it was such an insane idea. when i saw who got the inroads/SEO slots, i went 180 degrees against AA. you might say that even the black children of f500 board members might for some reason deserve AA, but i was seeing wealthy WHITE HISPANICS getting AA throught these programs for BB IBD slots. argentines, spanish mexicans, spanish cubans. holy shit, affirmative action for decamillionaire WHITE PEOPLE?

don't delude yourselves, kids -- AA has nothing to do with justice and everything to do with tribal-ethnic political hardball.

poor unconnected whites, indians and asians: sorry guys, you are the losers in this system.

honestly, if you grow up in america/europe/a country where everyone has TV, cell phones, access to transportation, you're not that disadvantaged. stop bitching and just do fucking work

My drinkin' problem left today, she packed up all her bags and walked away.
 

Fuckers, if you don't have a Wall Street job yet, spend your time and energy on interview prep so you can land a gig and get PAID. Your arguments, no matter how solid they are, will change the minds of no one.

Go ye forth and get that paper, future monkeys.

 
TonyPerkis:
That video makes me want to become even more racist

Although I shouldn't I think this is comment is funny because this a very real reality as to why subtle racism still exists...Black people acting out and people think that all black people are like this. Even though that is an extremely ignorant way to think, many people still think like this...

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee WSO is not your personal search function.
 
blackfinancier:
TonyPerkis:
That video makes me want to become even more racist

Although I shouldn't I think this is comment is funny because this a very real reality as to why subtle racism still exists...Black people acting out and people think that all black people are like this. Even though that is an extremely ignorant way to think, many people still think like this...

Racism isn't even that subtle today.
I am permanently behind on PMs, it's not personal.
 

Don't confuse black people and niggas.

- Bulls make money. Bears make money. Pigs get slaughtered. - The harder you work, the luckier you become. - I believe in the "Golden Rule": the man with the gold rules.
 

^^ a classic haha

"I take care of my kids!" "You're supposed to! You dumb mother fucker!" hahahaha

the books thing is a damn good idea too...

If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough. "There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.
 

It's not as much a race issue as it is a culture issue. This "thug" culture (typically embraced by minorities) does nothing but give those minorities a bad name and image. I'm not sure how we should go about eliminating the "glamour" (not sure I'd call it that) of the lifestyle but it needs to be taken care of.

Earlier this year I was jumped by five or six male minorities (not blacks but similar to the thugs in these videos) for no other reason than I was white. They didn't take anything from me and did nothing but yell racial slurs at me as they beat the living hell out of me. Being held down and having my head stomped repeatedly was definitely a memory I'll take with me to the grave. Ended up in the hospital with my cheekbone cracked in 3 places, a broken rib, and a few other cuts and bruises. 3 metal plates in my face and 24 stitches later, I can say I have a healthy hatred of this "thug" culture. Any culture that glorifies violently assaulting other people for no reason (I was simply walking home), is not contributing to society.

I'm not sure who's to blame for this "thug" culture, but I know this, if I were to witness this sort of thing happening to someone else, they sure as hell wouldn't be walking away from it, regardless of what races are involved.

 
MailmanBitesDog:
It's not as much a race issue as it is a culture issue. This "thug" culture (typically embraced by minorities) does nothing but give those minorities a bad name and image. I'm not sure how we should go about eliminating the "glamour" (not sure I'd call it that) of the lifestyle but it needs to be taken care of.

Earlier this year I was jumped by five or six male minorities (not blacks but similar to the thugs in these videos) for no other reason than I was white. They didn't take anything from me and did nothing but yell racial slurs at me as they beat the living hell out of me. Being held down and having my head stomped repeatedly was definitely a memory I'll take with me to the grave. Ended up in the hospital with my cheekbone cracked in 3 places, a broken rib, and a few other cuts and bruises. 3 metal plates in my face and 24 stitches later, I can say I have a healthy hatred of this "thug" culture. Any culture that glorifies violently assaulting other people for no reason (I was simply walking home), is not contributing to society.

I'm not sure who's to blame for this "thug" culture, but I know this, if I were to witness this sort of thing happening to someone else, they sure as hell wouldn't be walking away from it, regardless of what races are involved.

America has a huge immigration problem. This country has let in too many low-class uneducated filth. And I'm saying that as a recent immigrant myself. Letting in educated Indians/Chinese is one thing, but letting in DomiKans and other Latin American filth is a unmitigated disaster.

What city/state this happen in?

 
JamesHetfield:
MailmanBitesDog:
It's not as much a race issue as it is a culture issue. This "thug" culture (typically embraced by minorities) does nothing but give those minorities a bad name and image. I'm not sure how we should go about eliminating the "glamour" (not sure I'd call it that) of the lifestyle but it needs to be taken care of.

Earlier this year I was jumped by five or six male minorities (not blacks but similar to the thugs in these videos) for no other reason than I was white. They didn't take anything from me and did nothing but yell racial slurs at me as they beat the living hell out of me. Being held down and having my head stomped repeatedly was definitely a memory I'll take with me to the grave. Ended up in the hospital with my cheekbone cracked in 3 places, a broken rib, and a few other cuts and bruises. 3 metal plates in my face and 24 stitches later, I can say I have a healthy hatred of this "thug" culture. Any culture that glorifies violently assaulting other people for no reason (I was simply walking home), is not contributing to society.

I'm not sure who's to blame for this "thug" culture, but I know this, if I were to witness this sort of thing happening to someone else, they sure as hell wouldn't be walking away from it, regardless of what races are involved.

America has a huge immigration problem. This country has let in too many low-class uneducated filth. And I'm saying that as a recent immigrant myself. Letting in educated Indians/Chinese is one thing, but letting in DomiKans and other Latin American filth is a unmitigated disaster.

What city/state this happen in?

Troll is obvious. Guarantee troll will still be successful.

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JamesHetfield:
MailmanBitesDog:
It's not as much a race issue as it is a culture issue. This "thug" culture (typically embraced by minorities) does nothing but give those minorities a bad name and image. I'm not sure how we should go about eliminating the "glamour" (not sure I'd call it that) of the lifestyle but it needs to be taken care of.

Earlier this year I was jumped by five or six male minorities (not blacks but similar to the thugs in these videos) for no other reason than I was white. They didn't take anything from me and did nothing but yell racial slurs at me as they beat the living hell out of me. Being held down and having my head stomped repeatedly was definitely a memory I'll take with me to the grave. Ended up in the hospital with my cheekbone cracked in 3 places, a broken rib, and a few other cuts and bruises. 3 metal plates in my face and 24 stitches later, I can say I have a healthy hatred of this "thug" culture. Any culture that glorifies violently assaulting other people for no reason (I was simply walking home), is not contributing to society.

I'm not sure who's to blame for this "thug" culture, but I know this, if I were to witness this sort of thing happening to someone else, they sure as hell wouldn't be walking away from it, regardless of what races are involved.

America has a huge immigration problem. This country has let in too many low-class uneducated filth. And I'm saying that as a recent immigrant myself. Letting in educated Indians/Chinese is one thing, but letting in DomiKans and other Latin American filth is a unmitigated disaster.

What city/state this happen in?

Hawaii. Little do most people know but it's one of the few places in America where whites can experience reverse-racism. They even have a word (haole) for white people and use it similar to the N word. If anyone's heard of the whole APEC shooting incident, some people say it was spurred by some sort of racial slur towards the federal officer (but who knows for sure until they release the video).

 
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Edmundo Braverman:
Fuck, dude. Please tell me you got a few shots in at least.

Nope, wasn't expecting anything and got sucker punched to start it. I was literally right down the street from my apartment. The group was walking down the sidewalk the opposite way, I didn't think anything of it at the time (figured they were just walking somewhere), and just stepped to the side to let them pass. The biggest guy acted like they were just going to pass me, then grabbed me, kneed me in the groin, punched me in the stomach, then threw me down, where the others pinned me before I could get back up. Next thing I knew I was gettin kicked in the ribs and face, and then stomped on a few times. Then as soon as it started they were gone. I lost sight in my right eye for about 15 minutes but it returned by the time the police came. Didn't even realize my cheekbone had been shattered until the cop told me it was and he touched it and I could feel the bones moving haha.

It was a shitty recovery (couldn't eat solids for about 2-3 weeks) but the upside was that the nurses I got were pretty good looking.

Oh, and I've used it as a story in a few interviews and it seems to help haha

 
MailmanBitesDog:
Edmundo Braverman:
Fuck, dude. Please tell me you got a few shots in at least.

Nope, wasn't expecting anything and got sucker punched to start it. I was literally right down the street from my apartment. The group was walking down the sidewalk the opposite way, I didn't think anything of it at the time (figured they were just walking somewhere), and just stepped to the side to let them pass. The biggest guy acted like they were just going to pass me, then grabbed me, kneed me in the groin, punched me in the stomach, then threw me down, where the others pinned me before I could get back up. Next thing I knew I was gettin kicked in the ribs and face, and then stomped on a few times. Then as soon as it started they were gone. I lost sight in my right eye for about 15 minutes but it returned by the time the police came. Didn't even realize my cheekbone had been shattered until the cop told me it was and he touched it and I could feel the bones moving haha.

It was a shitty recovery (couldn't eat solids for about 2-3 weeks) but the upside was that the nurses I got were pretty good looking.

Oh, and I've used it as a story in a few interviews and it seems to help haha

I'm sorry to hear that man.

 
MailmanBitesDog:
Edmundo Braverman:
Fuck, dude. Please tell me you got a few shots in at least.

Nope, wasn't expecting anything and got sucker punched to start it. I was literally right down the street from my apartment. The group was walking down the sidewalk the opposite way, I didn't think anything of it at the time (figured they were just walking somewhere), and just stepped to the side to let them pass. The biggest guy acted like they were just going to pass me, then grabbed me, kneed me in the groin, punched me in the stomach, then threw me down, where the others pinned me before I could get back up. Next thing I knew I was gettin kicked in the ribs and face, and then stomped on a few times. Then as soon as it started they were gone. I lost sight in my right eye for about 15 minutes but it returned by the time the police came. Didn't even realize my cheekbone had been shattered until the cop told me it was and he touched it and I could feel the bones moving haha.

It was a shitty recovery (couldn't eat solids for about 2-3 weeks) but the upside was that the nurses I got were pretty good looking.

Oh, and I've used it as a story in a few interviews and it seems to help haha

This is why I carry a gun, I have no hesitations about killing a motherfucker if it comes to it.

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^^ I just don't understand shit like that at all... makes me sick, makes me wish a bullet to their stupid, useless, matter-wasting brain would be the go-to punishment for that type of shit... why the hell would you risk serious jail time just to jump somebody without even taking anything? Those retards obviously don't understand the concept of risk/reward. I hope they got caught, but I'm gonna doubt that.

In the long run, you'll be the winner though. They may have beat the shit out of you, but you lived to talk about it and I'm 99% sure you'll be way better off than those fucking savages later in life, so I guess you could take comfort in that haha. Were you in a bad neighborhood?

If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough. "There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.
 
scottj19x89:
^^ I just don't understand shit like that at all... makes me sick, makes me wish a bullet to their stupid, useless, matter-wasting brain would be the go-to punishment for that type of shit... why the hell would you risk serious jail time just to jump somebody without even taking anything? Those retards obviously don't understand the concept of risk/reward. I hope they got caught, but I'm gonna doubt that.

In the long run, you'll be the winner though. They may have beat the shit out of you, but you lived to talk about it and I'm 99% sure you'll be way better off than those fucking savages later in life, so I guess you could take comfort in that haha. Were you in a bad neighborhood?

Nope, it was a pretty decent street I lived on. It was just a street away from a high school with a police "substation" built into it. Still took them a long time to respond though. I think these guys just went out looking for trouble and found me to start it.

 
txjustin:
People like that deserve to die. No lethal injection humane bullshit, a quick bullet to the brain will do the trick. Shit like this is why I carry. Rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

That is the sexiest thing I've ever heard.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into SWANSONS.
 
WallStreetOasis.com:
hey JamesHetfield, my mother was a Colombian immigrant at 12 years old. She along with all of her sisters and one brother are all super successful (including 2 docs, a lawyer and a super successful architect).

Stop making ignorant generalizations or you'll just get banned.

Damn Patrick, us together just made in successful....

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee WSO is not your personal search function.
 

These types of incidents won't ever stop until blacks begin un-isolating themselves from their communities and start reaching out/working with other ethnic groups. Neither will the stereotypes.

 

Let me just say something - i DON'T believe in affirmative action. We should be looking at individuals, not race. AA is inherently racist. BUT someone said what advantage does a poor asian have over a poor black and the answer is a SHITTON. When I see an asian acting "thug," I'm much more disgusted than when I see a black person acting the same way. And it's because you have to think--what are the chances that they were raised to value education, etc.? I come from an extremely poor asian family (mom didn't work, 4 siblings, dad came here when he was 40, was cook at restaurant for most of his life before he got an IT job and worked his way up). But I had a huge leg up on most poor blacks. Because my dad had taught me calculus by the time I was in 7th grade, and they forced me to read books when I was a kid. They made me play sports, too, and used all their savings to make me learn piano and swimming (for first 15 years of my life, I never saw them buy anything purely for themselves. Only things for me/my siblings. While I know black parents who have never bought their kids a birthday/christmas present, and spend money on stuff for themselves). Now, if there's a black kid who came from his underpriveleged background, and he scored say, 100-200 points lower than me on the SATs, and had similar ECs, I would say he should probably get into a school over me, because he managed to do stuff on the same tier as me against much harder odds. Now, the thing is, i don't think this is common and i think it's identifiable at an individual basis--which is why im against AA. But to just say that any black kid can just work hard if he wants to is complete bs. You may think that hard work and education are these oh so great values. Well, whether you like it or not, fact is that you value those things because of the culture you grew up in. Do you really think it's inherently in black people to be this way? If we took all the black kids and made rich white parents raise them, you think they wouldn't all start doing much better in school? If so, then it's not a black problem. But it's not solvable by some stupid welfare state or AA either. You have to change the fundamental morality and value system of an entire community. That's hard. And I'm not really smart enough/care enough to try to solve the problem but I hope people cleverer than I are working on it.

 
Warhead:
Let me just say something - i DON'T believe in affirmative action. We should be looking at individuals, not race. AA is inherently racist. BUT someone said what advantage does a poor asian have over a poor black and the answer is a SHITTON. When I see an asian acting "thug," I'm much more disgusted than when I see a black person acting the same way. And it's because you have to think--what are the chances that they were raised to value education, etc.? I come from an extremely poor asian family (mom didn't work, 4 siblings, dad came here when he was 40, was cook at restaurant for most of his life before he got an IT job and worked his way up). But I had a huge leg up on most poor blacks. Because my dad had taught me calculus by the time I was in 7th grade, and they forced me to read books when I was a kid. They made me play sports, too, and used all their savings to make me learn piano and swimming (for first 15 years of my life, I never saw them buy anything purely for themselves. Only things for me/my siblings. While I know black parents who have never bought their kids a birthday/christmas present, and spend money on stuff for themselves). Now, if there's a black kid who came from his underpriveleged background, and he scored say, 100-200 points lower than me on the SATs, and had similar ECs, I would say he should probably get into a school over me, because he managed to do stuff on the same tier as me against much harder odds. Now, the thing is, i don't think this is common and i think it's identifiable at an individual basis--which is why im against AA. But to just say that any black kid can just work hard if he wants to is complete bs. You may think that hard work and education are these oh so great values. Well, whether you like it or not, fact is that you value those things because of the culture you grew up in. Do you really think it's inherently in black people to be this way? If we took all the black kids and made rich white parents raise them, you think they wouldn't all start doing much better in school? If so, then it's not a black problem. But it's not solvable by some stupid welfare state or AA either. You have to change the fundamental morality and value system of an entire community. That's hard. And I'm not really smart enough/care enough to try to solve the problem but I hope people cleverer than I are working on it.

The problem is the government can't change the fundamental morality and value system of any community. Ideally you need the parents...or should I say parent...to instill these values at a young age and/or you have to have people that can relate to that particular community, who've 'made it', go back and show the kids that there are options other than being a professional athlete or rapper...but that you have to do certain things they will have to do, like show up for school and study, etc. Sadly the government doesn't realize this and they continue to fund the complacency creator known as welfare.

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"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
 
cphbravo96:
Ideally you need the parents...or should I say parent...

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Fuck'd up but true

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee WSO is not your personal search function.
 

^ AA beneficiaries aren't this ideal case you imagine. they are wealthy blacks who are american old money and aristocratic hispanic whites who are at least upper middle class. i am sad that you are cheering for your own dispossession by people who have had far more advantages than you, because you apparently worked hard for what you have (as did your parents). and if your kids are asian, i am sad that you are in favor of stacking the deck against them because of their ethnic origin.

do an internship at a top target admissions office (like me) and think over your position. i turned around 180 degrees and i would be surprised if you came out unaffected.

 
ivoteforthatguy:
^ AA beneficiaries aren't this ideal case you imagine. they are wealthy blacks who are american old money and aristocratic hispanic whites who are at least upper middle class. i am sad that you are cheering for your own dispossession by people who have had far more advantages than you, because you apparently worked hard for what you have (as did your parents). and if your kids are asian, i am sad that you are in favor of stacking the deck against them because of their ethnic origin.

do an internship at a top target admissions office (like me) and think over your position. i turned around 180 degrees and i would be surprised if you came out unaffected.

Do you mind sharing a story or two from your time at the admissions office?

 
JamesHetfield:
ivoteforthatguy:
^ AA beneficiaries aren't this ideal case you imagine. they are wealthy blacks who are american old money and aristocratic hispanic whites who are at least upper middle class. i am sad that you are cheering for your own dispossession by people who have had far more advantages than you, because you apparently worked hard for what you have (as did your parents). and if your kids are asian, i am sad that you are in favor of stacking the deck against them because of their ethnic origin.

do an internship at a top target admissions office (like me) and think over your position. i turned around 180 degrees and i would be surprised if you came out unaffected.

Do you mind sharing a story or two from your time at the admissions office?

it will most definitely out me if i get into too much detail as it is very likely some of the other interns went into finance but i can say that the admin. official, who was in charge of this thing, was from race X and was ONLY interested in recruiting from race X. pure tribal partisanship. "diversity" and all that crap has nothing to do with it.

 

AA is an utter failure and a feel good measure for liberals. Why? Lets see.

1) College is too late in the game to fix racial disparities in learning.

2) It goes to rich, foreign minorities instead of the ones we are trying to help.

3) If you exclude college athletes, the amount of minorities on campus is dismal.

4) It is racist.

 

Good Lord, did you guys see the clip of 50 poor people simultaneously shoplifting from a Silver Spring, Md., 7-Eleven?? LOL.

On the real, real, real, real, real, real, real...this type of shit is fucked up and I can't wait for one of the store clerks/owners to open up with a 12 gauge and fucking blast a couple of them in front of their cohorts and hopefully let them know that they aren't always going to get away with this type of shit and that 4 Baby Ruth candy bars aren't worth potentially loosing their freedom and/or life.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Flash-Mob-Knocks-Over-Silver-Sp…

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
 

if you are older you will remember the soon ja du and latasha harlins case in LA: korean granny shoots a black teenager in the back of the head for stealing a bottle of OJ.

taking a life for a property crimes goes a bit too far but as bill cosby would say why the hell did you have that OJ in your hand? where were the parents? what kind of values did this kid get raised with.

i guarantee you that there is going to be a shooting one of these days at a flash mob robbery. one guy gets fed up and starts blasting.

 

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