HELP - Lots of experience, no interviews!

I've been looking for months but after a few interviews at the start of my search, I haven't had ANY interviews. Applying to positions in Asset Management.

Do you think CFA would put me over an edge? Many positions do seem to "prefer" MBA or CFA

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Hi dude most of time the recruiting companies will ignore the experienced candidates, they think that the expectation of the candidates is high which the company can't afford, But don't there is alway hope keep trying.

 
Human Capital:

Curious, have you thought about an MBA or finishing up the CFA since you already passed 2 levels?

I am signed up for the CFA level 3 exam in June 2016. I took a long break between level 1 and level 2 (June 2015).

I have thought about graduate school, but was hoping to start up AFTER I moved to a new firm with tuition reimbursement. I may be old for a regular MBA. Any thoughts about MBA or other graduate programs. There are some Master Finance programs too that are shorter but the better US versions focus on younger students.

 
CRE:

Not to be a dick...but since you self-identify as a "hipster"...do you look/dress like one?

Nope. Inside joke. My wife is a bit younger so she's a hipster. She jokes that I look like a hipster in my Brooks brother gear.

 
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UWS_hipster90210:
CRE:
Not to be a dick...but since you self-identify as a "hipster"...do you look/dress like one?

Nope. Inside joke. My wife is a bit younger so she's a hipster. She jokes that I look like a hipster in my Brooks brother gear.

Ah, I see.

Well, something to consider is that it's a lot harder for someone at your age, and particularly your level, to get a job. There are fewer positions at that level overall and people won't think you will take something lower to start, even though it's obviously better than being unemployed, or don't want to give it to you only for you to jump ship 3 months later. What's the saying - it takes 1 month for every $10,000 you expect to make on average to find a new job?

Something you might want to look into is a headhunter. He or she might be able to get your resume to places where you wouldn't necessarily be able to.

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MutualMonkey:

That is your real resume and you aren't getting interviews???

I had three rounds of interviews with one company for a good, senior position. They went with someone else with a great background according to his LinkedIn profile.

Otherwise, nothing. Not even phone screens. I've tried some recruiters but not much going on there...

 

Thanks for all of the comments. Anyone have specific advice about the actual content/structure of my resume?

CFA is a good knowledge base. I never respected it early in my career, but I can now see the benefit. I now tell all of my analysts to go after it asap.

Job hunting has been very tricky. If my company found out they would fire me in a heart beat.

I have reached out to some headhunters but there just hasn't been much activity on that end.

 

I'm not in trading or HF investing but I'm a relatively senior person and like DickFuld said, you probably need to mention your returns and P&L. On the IB or PE side you have deal sheets separately and/or more details about your deals in your resume with specifics about money in/money out, IRR's, size, leverage, ongoing involvement with the investments, etc for PE (some detail in your resume and much more detail in your deal sheets) and in IB the deals you've specifically worked on with some details. I don't know if this is applicable in trading/HF's, but you may also want mention the teams and people you've run. And going over one page isn't against the rules anymore, at least in my opinion. I don't want to see a 5 page CV like you would for an academic but 2 pages is fine.

You also need a good reason as to why you want to leave your current firm. $5MM is somewhat obvious but I'd spin a reason as to why that number hasn't increased if performance has been there, and not in a disparaging way to your current firm. Also, what has your strategy been in finding new jobs? I know networking seems like an overused term but at 35 you should have a pretty decent one. Use it.

Good luck.

 

Thanks, I updated my main resume to include some returns figures.

Leaving the firm because they're in the midst of a reorg and don't have the time or energy to support trading/hedge fund. My main strategy is to find job postings that interest me and then find LinkedIn connections that can help me get an interview. I've also been working to expand my network via networking events. I may start working in the opposite direction where I comb through my network's companies and look for job listings.

 

How are you applying to summer analyst programs when you're already graduated? Just curious. Seems like a pretty good reason not to get any interviews.

‎"Until and unless you discover that money is the root of all good, you ask for your own destruction. When money ceases to become the means by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of other men. Blood, whips and guns or dollars."
 

I'll pursue a Master's degree starting in September - either at my BSc university or at a better one. Currently, I am studying for the GMAT.

I mentioned that in the covering letter that comes along with the application.

 
ezekiel235:
I'll pursue a Master's degree starting in September - either at my BSc university or at a better one. Currently, I am studying for the GMAT.

I mentioned that in the covering letter that comes along with the application.

I imagined as much but remember summer analyst positions are designed for penultimate year students so it's inevitably going to be an uphill struggle trying to spin for a summer analyst position. By all means, fix the grammar mistakes and take a shot with you resume, seems like you have pretty comprehensive internship experience; but keep that in mind.

‎"Until and unless you discover that money is the root of all good, you ask for your own destruction. When money ceases to become the means by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of other men. Blood, whips and guns or dollars."
 

I will cut you some slack for being a native German speaker, but there are some grammatical issues with your resume... get it reviewed by a native English speaker

Wall Street leaders now understand that they made a mistake, one born of their innocent and trusting nature. They trusted ordinary Americans to behave more responsibly than they themselves ever would, and these ordinary Americans betrayed their trust.
 

I don't know if it's as big of a deal to others as it is to me, but those bullet points you have are mad annoying, not to mention people don't usually print out resumes in color anyway. Replace them with some solid, classic, black bullet points and I'd consider that a huge step up.

"Yes. Money has been a little bit tight lately, but at the end of my life, when I'm sitting on my yacht, am I gonna be thinking about how much money I have? No. I'm gonna be thinking about how many friends I have and my children and my comedy albums."
 

friend, you have some high opinion of yourself...

tons of education? good amount of experience?

no.

good experience is analyst stint, gap year, summer or off-cycle internship.. not some 8-years-long bs contract work (sorry for the "bs" but, come on, 8 years? really? man...) other stuff looks like BO type of work so its not doing much favor for FO roles.

it is all well written, but it looks to me like you did nothing but wrote it on your resume so it looks like rocket science

you should mention when you started with your bachelor i hope it wasnt 8 years ago...

you should have a shot at some consulting firms i guess... cant comment much on this, too subjective

 

Only skimmed the resume so correct me if I'm wrong, but do you have any related healthcare experience? That might be one of the reasons you're having so much trouble...apart from your degree, why should anyone believe you're interested in healthcare if your work experience doesn't show it? You have a bachelors degree and a masters degree- what did you do with all your summers, and why didn't you seek out a healthcare-related internship (not one where you worked in HR with healthcare trainees or whatever)?

Again, only skimmed the resume so I could be wrong, but that's the first thing that jumps out at me. If someone is applying for a certain job, it's nice to see an interest in that job (and a progression towards it, if it's not the kind of job you can get immediately/easily) reflected in the work experience on the resume.

 

Three things to fix:

  • Use consistent verbs (past tense)
  • Assuming you graduated college in 4 years, you were a "Business Operations Consultant" since the second year of high school? Was that your uncle's business or something? Truthful or not, this will very fishy to any person. Either get rid of this section or change the time to something more believable.
  • "Strong and professional communication while explaining complex matters in simple terms to all levels" Whoever reviewed your resume must have skipped this line by accident. I know what you are trying to say, but need a better line

Language in other lines were fine I thought. Also, why not show your undergrad GPA while showing your Master's GPA? Either show both or hide the both.

 

I appreciate all of the comments, and please do not hesitate to be harsh about it. I know some of my work seems fishy but I don't know how to make it look as serious as it was.

-at Falgoon realty, yes, it is my uncle's business but that doesn't hinder the fact that the work I did there was legitimate work. I ran several projects at a very very young age. I started off just designing marketing materials and bs work like that but by my senior year of college, I was involved in spearheading many reno projects, including a property of my own which is now an income property for me. I ran analyses on probable investments for his company. If it really sounds that bad, I'll get rid of it but that is where most of my free time went, because I paid my way through school and DePaul was not cheap.

-Also, what you see there is not it. I was a co-founder and founder of two student organizations at my Undergrad school. One of which did wayyy better than we expected our first year and is still going strong. and received recognition from the President of the Organization (US Chapter) and Deepak Chopra.

-I also worked part-time at Visionworks, then Lenscrafters, as an Optician during undergrad.

-My undergrad GPA was a 3.0 and I've read to only post those over 3.5

-As far as healthcare experience goes, not necessarily. I worked full time at the Orlando VA during my time in grad school and as much as I wanted to take on an internship somewhere else, I could not forgo the income. But the VA was still a healthcare facility, I was just in the HR end of it.

-The color bullet points are a bit much and those were added maybe two weeks ago (I was trying to find ways to differentiate my resume but that clearly doesn't work... so point noted)

-Also, healthcare work or not...isn't the point of an entry level job for them to mold me into whatever they want? I'm pretty much a blank slate for christ's sake. My undergrad major wasn't some bs communications degree (no offense) and I did go on for further education in a field I am genuinely interested in. I am extremely tech savvy, detail oriented, and analytic. The positions I have been applying to ask for 0-2 year experience. Majority of them being Entry Level.

I'm not gonna mess around and say I was a 24 year old CEO, but I have worked much much harder than most people I know at my age, but my problem is that I do not know how to display that on paper. I'm considering adding a second page to my resume to reflect all of my jobs since undergrad, including Visionworks and Lenscrafters, as well as adding more detail about the organizations that I had founded in undergrad. I'm pretty sure the reaction I got here is what most ppl get when they see my resume and I really need help changing that.

Thank you!

Best,

Harnish Patel

 
hpatel517:
-at Falgoon realty, yes, it is my uncle's business but that doesn't hinder the fact that the work I did there was legitimate work. I ran several projects at a very very young age. I started off just designing marketing materials and bs work like that but by my senior year of college, I was involved in spearheading many reno projects, including a property of my own which is now an income property for me. I ran analyses on probable investments for his company. If it really sounds that bad, I'll get rid of it but that is where most of my free time went, because I paid my way through school and DePaul was not cheap.

You need to find a way to say this in your resume succinctly and preferably after the first line. Right now that section looks like you did some on and off again work for a family friend. By what you say above, it seems you were actually doing some legit growth during your time there. Highlight that by showing your growth in time ordered sequence and showing your increase in responsibilities. Honestly you seem like you're pretty motivated, hard working, and entrepreneurial but that section just looks too cluttered to take seriously.

Also, consider using a serif font (a font where letters have "tails" like times new roman) for your resume text. Resumes get printed out when peopled read them (at least for the interviews) and serif fonts are easier to read when they're printed out. Again, a nitpicky detail.

"Yes. Money has been a little bit tight lately, but at the end of my life, when I'm sitting on my yacht, am I gonna be thinking about how much money I have? No. I'm gonna be thinking about how many friends I have and my children and my comedy albums."
 

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