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Hi,

Make your own top (in tiers) of investment management companies.

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  • brotherbear's picture

    What really matters in AM? Returns? Assets under management? Compensation? Location of head office? I'm not going to nit-pick through top-tier firms, but I'd say all of these are pretty solid:

    Pimco, Wellington, GSAM, BGI/Blackrock, Western Asset Management, JPMAM, Fidelity, Alliance Bernstein, ING Investment Management, Schroeders

  • Nicu's picture

    Prestige, compensation

  • LAWM's picture

    Tough one,
    Each company has good funds and not so good funds
    You can't rank on presitge in this industry, its about performance. figure out the style you are interested in: equity vs. fi vs. alt then equity = lcg, lcv etc... You'll see its not a simple ranking

  • boscfa's picture

    I agree with LAWM in that it varies by product and client type. In ternms of large, active, institutional AM firms, I would go with PIMCO, Wellington, GSAM, Blackrock, JPMAM, and AllianceBernsterin from Brotherbear's list. It is nearly impossible to make compensation comparisons. They aren't all taking in a large analyst class each year like BBs do for IB. For experienced hires, they all pay market rates for the given position.

    PIONLINE.COM has rankings by AUM. This can give you a sense of what funds these firm's manage. Of course, size doesn't mean prestige or even compensation.

  • isic's picture

    yup, some are good at FI, some at territories, caps blah blah..
    but i think in general PIMCO and blackrock are pretty good... goldman as well

    templeton, julius baer have their own strengths as well

  • thisguy's picture

    Under GSAM, I'm being offered:
    1. Investment Partners (IP)
    2. Global Solutions Partners (GSP) - Portfolio Management
    3. Private Equity Group (PEG)

    and I'm being told if I start in one, I'll be able to laterally transfer to the other. Not sure if this actually possible??
    Which would be most enjoyable since I can do all three?

  • LAWM's picture

    I wouldn't take the "lateralling" too literally.

    They tell kids going into pwm that they can lateal to ibd or s&t

  • In reply to thisguy
    vik0004's picture

    Which one did you end up joining? Just curious to know what made you choose one over other.

  • In reply to thisguy
    vik0004's picture

    thisguy wrote:

    Under GSAM, I'm being offered:
    1. Investment Partners (IP)
    2. Global Solutions Partners (GSP) - portfolio management
    3. Private Equity Group (PEG)

    and I'm being told if I start in one, I'll be able to laterally transfer to the other. Not sure if this actually possible??
    Which would be most enjoyable since I can do all three?


    Which one did you end up joining? Just curious to know what made you choose one over other.

  • MutualMonkey's picture

    I think in terms of pure investment firms: PIMCO, Fidelity, Wellington, TRowe, BlackRock usually take the top spot. If you include banks JPM/GS would be in there for sure.

  • ibleedexcel's picture

    I find it interesting that in all these posts the most coveted AM firm hasn't even been mentioned.

  • In reply to ibleedexcel
    Gray Fox's picture

    ibleedexcel wrote:

    I find it interesting that in all these posts the most coveted AM firm hasn't even been mentioned.

    Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities?

  • In reply to Gray Fox
    mbavsmfin's picture

    He's probably referring to Capital Group or Dodge&Cox.

  • thebrofessor's picture

    assuming we're not including hedgies in here

    Perkins
    Brandes
    Davis (abysmal performance recently, but stellar long term)
    Templeton
    EIC (small company out of Atlanta, great performance and philosophy though)
    Royce (great for small caps)

    for bonds:

    nuveen
    PIMCO
    met west/tcw
    doubleline

    "The four most dangerous words in investing are: 'this time it's different.'" - Sir John Templeton

    "The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself." - Benjamin Graham

  • In reply to ibleedexcel
    Dr.Seuss's picture

    ibleedexcel wrote:

    I find it interesting that in all these posts the most coveted AM firm hasn't even been mentioned.

    Lumina Investments?

  • In reply to Dr.Seuss
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  • In reply to Gray Fox
    thebrofessor's picture

    "The four most dangerous words in investing are: 'this time it's different.'" - Sir John Templeton

    "The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself." - Benjamin Graham