Best simulator for a complete newb?

Hello,

I have just begun to read about/gain interest in trading stocks (college student). What is the best platform for me to test this out and get started? so far i hear investopedia is the best for beginning learners...i tried zecco forex practice and it was too complicated

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Waymon3x6
dest149Get 1,000 dollars start an e-trade account and you're off

lol and get killed on commissions

could be worse than $10 a trade. If that $10 difference is going to make or break you then your doing something wrong anyway
 

I suggest going with a sim instead of a $1000. A $1000 limits your flexibility. You could end up waiting quite a while for the market to move..

 

TOS is unrealistic with paper because it gives paper accounts instant execution. In that case you would absolutely kill it in every market lol

"Well, you know, I was a human being before I became a businessman." -- George Soros
 

Try SaxoBank. They have a demo account where you can trade anything you'd like from FX to cotton.

CNBC sucks "This financial crisis is worse than a divorce. I've lost all my money, but the wife is still here." - Client after getting blown up
 

I think he means which product.

Jack: They’re all former investment bankers who were laid off from that economic crisis that Nancy Pelosi caused. They have zero real world skills, but God they work hard. -30 Rock
 

What desk though? Your strategy will be specific to your market place, and thus there's no sense in simulating institutional equities if you are going to be doing proprietary commodities. I will say I have no idea what desk LYNX has...I'm assuming it's a prop shop though? Don't they sell soft ware?

Any who I'm guessing you're just gonna be trading equities if you're asking for good Lvl 2 quoting, in which case other than opening a pa I have no idea.....

 

updown.com is cool but try and enter a competition or create a game against your friends....otherwise it's like playing poker for fake money....pointless imo b/c your job is managing risk and it's hard to do that with nothing on the line and a million dollars of fake money with unrealistic fees. (Unrealistic in the sense that they are PA fees and not what institutional traders will charge you)

I still think if you have some money you should open a private account, and do that along side your updown account

 

its fake money. have fun.
read the news, find the trends.. what industries and specifically in each industry what is the trend. for instance if it is alternative energy > solar? battery? then find companies associated with it, look into them, see the prospects etc. I mean this is just a macro strategy. Just see how you do with intuition. Its hard at first since the only companies you probably know are GOOG, APPL, MST, CSCO, BAC, GS, MS, etc.

and u will get pieces of relatively "good" information on how to invest in stocks websites.

something you should learn is that when you do a stock simulator, you don't consider Tax or transaction costs.
those two are a huge influence on your trades.

 

You first need to decide how you wish to trade. Are you a long term buy/hold trader, or a day trader (swing, momentum, scalping)? Once you know which avenue you wish to go, you can direct your focus on your investment strategy.

In my opinion, buy/hold traders have a lot of fundamental work to do, which is very time consuming to get one payoff. It's good though because if you are correct in your investment thesis, you can sit through lows.

If you day trade, it takes many years of trading to gain "experience". It's also difficult because you can be right about your thesis, but on an intraday basis the stock can jump in the opposite direction you want and you may be forced to close out our position.

I suggest reading up on some books on the specific area that you want to do.

 
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AlphaGenerationYou first need to decide how you wish to trade. Are you a long term buy/hold trader, or a day trader (swing, momentum, scalping)? Once you know which avenue you wish to go, you can direct your focus on your investment strategy.

In my opinion, buy/hold traders have a lot of fundamental work to do, which is very time consuming to get one payoff. It's good though because if you are correct in your investment thesis, you can sit through lows.

If you day trade, it takes many years of trading to gain "experience". It's also difficult because you can be right about your thesis, but on an intraday basis the stock can jump in the opposite direction you want and you may be forced to close out our position.

I suggest reading up on some books on the specific area that you want to do.

Any suggestions about good books to try? Also, if I wanted to be a trader on wall street, is it possible to be a buy/hold person or are you basically forced to day trade? Wouldn't it be better to practice day trading in case I were to go on wall street?

 

The one thing you won't learn from paper trading is...emotional control. Nothing beats jumping in and getting wet. No matter how much you paper trade, your are going to experience at least 1 loss (probably quite a few). We've all been there. Read a few books on different strategies. Try out different strategies. This is a big game and there is not just one way to play in it. Good luck on your journey and remember to have fun! It's just a game. (Played with real money) ;)

 

Believe it or not, Jim cramers' Action Alert plus subscription can help yo learn the fundamentals to stock picking. I would suggest you write down all the data available on a stock he picks and once a month write down all the data again. Eventually you will see a pattern. Then go look in the market for stocks that fit that pattern. What you will find is many of the popular fundamental sites will be putting buy recommendations in their sites on those particular tickers. What you won't see is them picking them up at their lows. That is where having technical analysis training comes into play. Confidence in your own ability is the hard part of learning. Your trading friends are here to help you learn (sometimes hard lessons) they are also willing to take your money with bad advice cause YOU didn't do your homework and felt getting a free lunch from them was easier.

 

I tried to register but it's just too annoying + you have to provide documents and its even more annoying if you are not from the US. It looks like you are registering with the police.

 

Thinkorswim, although there is quite a difference from trading a simulated account then working in a prop firm with real time market action. Not that I'm a trader, but I l know from a good source.

 

The only one I know is http://ww.bullbearings.co.uk but that's for UK stocks only (also has FX, CFDs and spread-betting).

Other than that I'm not sure. I'm sure if you search Google for online brokers, or find firms that let you trade stocks online, you'll find one that will let you open a practise account just like the FX links I gave above.

 

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