Tuck vs Yale SOM
I've read a couple posts on here about them. Yale seems to have more "lay" prestige but Tuck seems very insular and have an ironclad alumni network. I imagine consulting recruitment is strong at both. I'm also interested in HFs. Any ideas on how I should approach trying to decide?
Well, you can find out about placement from their employment statistics on the program websites.
You can find out about the alumni network strength / weaknesses by actually reaching out to alumni of each respective program.
You can approach deciding between the two programs first by actually being accepted in to each program respectively. It is an oft overlooked prerequisite to deciding between two school options.
In order though:
-- Find out which school best fits your career goals -- Talk to admissions / visit campus -- Reach out to Alumni -- Apply and be accepted -- Repeat first three bullet points and re evaluate -- Come to conclusion
Sound advice. I'd add in visiting the schools after reaching out to alumni/students.
Very true.
Another thing to think about -- Can the school bridge the gap between your current experiences and your future career goals?
For instance, you may very well get in to both MBA programs having done 2 years with the Peace Corps and 2 years with TFA, but if your immediate post - MBA goal is to be a HF analyst the school is unlikely to get you there. Peace Corps / TFA and the MBA may very well get you in to consulting though, I'm not sure. Always important to understand how the program bridges the gap also.
A big advantage to Yale is no grade disclosure.... makes social life a huge difference.
Grade non disclosure is nice but not that important at the masters level.
I've only had Google directly ask for my masters grades. No other place, not even mbb, asked.
So I'd make my choice on other factors.
Tuck is just better than Yale. You possibly have likes of Ross, Stern, Fuqua, Darden, etc. before you go to Yale. Both are in winter wonderlands, so it's not like the location matters that much. Only time your grades might come into play is during January of first year when you recruit, and you'd rather be known for good performance. First years don't socialize much in Fall anyway.
Thanks for the responses.
neither are really IM powerhouses but Tuck is definitely more so of one... and also def stronger than Yale for consulting. id take yale if you maybe wanted to do non profit or IBD and have a strong pref to new haven.. also if yorue in new haven you have to wander into NYC all the time for any recruiting stuff, you dont have to at tuck other than the on campus events
Hi Cakepie, I've got a really non-snarky question -- are you trying to figure out what school to put on your list? Why not both? I find people have a much better and clearer head about things when a student knows if a school is really interested in him (or her). Also, one of the big decisions that matter is the quality of the experience through the application process and -- this is big -- financial incentives.
All of this is to say, why not apply to both rather than limit your choices without having the full picture?
Lot of great responses. I am planning on applying to both of them (eventually). At the moment I'm just trying to crystallize in my head their relative merits or at least common perceptions of the programs.
yale school of management is up and coming... tuck is more established but who knows in 20 years
Your assumption that consulting recruiting is strong at both isn't quite true. Tuck is much stronger at consulting and has historically been considered the better business school. And while folks have been predicting a meteoric rise in the rankings for Yale SOM ever since Snyder became Dean, it hasn't happened yet.
100% agree with all of this.
bump. would you guys say both schools are relatively even footing in terms of IB then?
Both schools do really well at IB recruiting. I heard that Tuck can get over 6 to 8 offers for people just at BAML alone (in addition to spots at all other BB banks). Yale can get 5+ at Barclays and CS (in addition to all other BBs). Given the relatively small class size, you should have similar opportunity at both. Don't know if you have to travel down to NYC as much if you're at Tuck.
how about a person coming from a non banking background? (2nd/3rd tier consulting with big 4, engineering undergrad) Do you guys suggest trying to get a pre-mba summer finance internship? Or is that unnecessary and if I bust my ass in the first semester I should have decent shots at IB internships?
@DietCoke I have recently talked to a few Tuck students that have gotten banking internships with no prior finance experience. My impression is that they don't really care, and that would probably be the case for either school. Of course, I'm sure a finance internship wouldn't hurt if you can pull it off, but don't think it's necessary.
@"BGP2587" Thanks BGP, I'll actually be attending kellogg but i think the situation is similar to tuck and yale so posting here. Do you or anyone else recommend any type of preparation/courses or books to read before the first semester IB internship recruiting starts for non-finance backgrounds such as me? Or will the career management center and courses at these schools basically take care of any interviewing skills we'll need for first semester recruiting. Appreciate any advice!
Unfortunately, that one is out of my league. Don't know much about finance recruiting other than what I told you. I'm sure if you do some digging on this site you'll find some info on resources for those about to embark on IB recruiting, or you could always post on the IB board and see if anyone has any input for you.
If you want MS, BAML, GS, CS, UBS, Citi, JPM, HL, Evercoreor Barclays go to Tuck. If you want the others go to Yale. I heard Tuck had about 40 students going for banking last year for about 35 spots. That's not to say five were left out because students get multiple offers. Also, don't rely on internship numbers alone. The key is to secure a full-time spot. Tuck definitely places way more at full-time.
Consulting isn't even close. Tuck by far. MBB took something like 20-30% of students going for consulting if not more. The others were left with other top firms as a consolation prize.
Typically the people going into banking at Yale have some sort of finance background already.
MBB took 20% of Tuck's entire class last year.
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