A buddy of mine that goes to Columbia sent me this article. Thought some of you guys either might get a good laugh or have something insightful to say.
http://columbiaspectator.com/opinion/2014/12/11/if-you-go-orgo-night-yo…
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Being pedantic here, but the article needs to be fact-checked....hundreds of Malaysians didn't die in either MH crash to my knowledge. Kind of irrelevant though.
The idea that the attendees (predominantly white or not) are intentionally creating an "unsafe" (or hostile) environment is a bit of a joke I think - even if a number of the jokes are offensive, no-one is literally being threatened (to my knowledge). Also, cops showing up at a large protest is deemed to be a bad thing here....but it's actually a great safety precaution. These kids weren't abused or anything, the cops were just making sure nothing went to shit and that's great - and the author is being ridiculous in lamenting a lack of an apology. Malaysians aren't really "people of colour" either, in the traditional sense of the term.
Author has a couple of valid points but is largely ridiculous. I get that lots of people in the US are currently especially outraged about racism etc and that's fine - but racism goes both ways and people are extremely ignorant in only focusing on it in one direction. For example, cases like Trayvon Martin/Michael Brown etc all stirred extreme angst, protests and even statements from Obama. However, I don't remember people being up in arms when some black teens wanted to know what it felt like to kill someone so shot an innocent, Australian college baseball player in the back while he was out for a run - or when two black teens beat an 88 year old white Vietnam war veteran to death in a parking lot with flashlights - funnily enough, the media wasn't all over it, no-one made a huge stir about it and Obama was silent - but when an alleged criminal (for example) rushes a cop who is doing his job and kills someone protecting himself (and when the "victim" could have avoided the whole thing by following the cop's instructions) the country is up in arms?
Fucking hell, I don't even live in America and I get incensed at some of the bullshit that goes on there. /end rant.
Half your title was redundant
Dude, you're surprised that some kid at an ivy league wrote something stupid? I'd be shocked if they didn't.
Liberals are nuts. This whole Ferguson/Garner thing has been blown WAY out of proportion by the liberal media; they are fanning the flames to incite social unrest.
By the way, I don't hear the liberal media expressing its rage over the numerous black on white crimes that are happening, especially the 14 recent cases of whites being burned by blacks. Where are Sharpton and Jackson when you need them?
This country would be a much stronger prosperous nation if it weren't for liberals.
Sometimes I just love you so much Haha. I was reading your last post regarding booth and CBS and just loved it Haha.
Thanks bro. I see you as a kindred spirit, waging a holy war against the pussy liberals who are trying to make our great country weaker. Let us drive through an Ivy League campus on a pickup truck, with Motley Crue blasting out loud, while we snort cocaine off the breasts of strippers.
I found this comment far funnier than I should have. Enjoy an SB.
Title is missing a comma. Can't take seriously
In previous years it used to be a way for band geeks to get laid and disrupt finals. Somehow they decided to go full retard instead.
Do you Columbia bros even lift?
Maybe students wouldn't feel upset if they stopped hanging out in segregated groups and instead made some more friends.
No one gets up in arms when criminals do criminal shit (your examples of Black on white crime) and get imprisoned for it, people get up in arms when people who are supposed to enforce justice take liberties with their power and instead further injustices. I am fucking tired of the knockout game or something of that sort being compared to cops killing unarmed black men, I think we are all intelligent enough to see the difference in scenarios.
The problem though is that crime has been racialized by the liberal media. The liberals and the race hustlers such as Jackson/Sharpton only make a fuss when the victim is black and the supposed culprit is non-black. Also, blacks are 13% of the U.S. population but commit 50% of the violent crimes. Why aren't these people taking steps to improve black crime?
You totally misunderstand what happened in Ferguson (I agree that Garner was an abuse of power, and the guy should serve time for second or third degree murder). The vast majority of cops are good people just doing their jobs. VERY few cops are so evil that they intentionally try to hurt or kill blacks. In Ferguson we know that Brown robbed a convenience store just before and assaulted Wilson. We also know that Brown was NOT shot from the back as had previously been reported. And the eyewitness testimony that claimed that Wilson shot up Brown for no reason was thoroughly discredited. I don't believe for a second that Wilson is a racist who was looking to cause trouble with a black youth that day.
It's outrageous that the liberal media takes an unfortunate event and blows it up to epic proportions, arguing that cops are somehow bad people out to get blacks. It's throwing cops under the bus as well as ignoring the data that more cops are killed by criminals than vice-versa.
Wait, you think the cop who arrested Garner should do time? Garner had 30 arrests including assault and grand larceny. He was breaking the law again. He resisted arrest. Cops eventually had to subdue him which isn't easy when the dude big and tall. He died because of health issues that no one can know.
Cop was 100% justified. Some cop shows up to arrest me I am turning around, hands behind my back and going to jail. I'll let my lawyer do the dirty work.
Those are the facts. Real simple.
Orgo Night sounds like the purge. What the fuck is it?
Lol I love how everyone clings to this unarmed shit. Sorry, but you attack a cop, go for his gun, you get shot.
And sorry if you're grossly overweight, have other health issues, break the law, resist arrest and then die later because cops had to subdue your ass.
I am against the militarization of cops. I also support cameras and transparency. That being said, cops are awesome, they are there to protect us and the vast majority are a benefit to society.
@mbavsmfin how do you assume I totally misunderstood ferguson, I didn't even mention ferguson....
@TNA no one is clinging to anything, Garner was unarmed and so was Brown (whether or not u think his death was justified), the unarmed thing is a fact u seem to write off as irrelevant while ridiculing other people's ignorance of facts....
Do you understand that unarmed =/= not able to hurt someone.
Guy attacked a cop, went for his gun, got shot. Even if you don't believe he went for the gun he still fought with a cop. Fact.
Garner has medical issues that killed him. He resisted arrest. Done.
A normal, healthy person would not have died. He couldn't breath because he resisted arrest.
I'm sorry but hurt does not equal in fear of your life enough to justify killing someone, this is basic law. You thinking Garner's health problems led to his death is completely subjective, unless you've examined that body idk how you can come to that conclusion other than "lol he fat", the cop administered an illegal chokehold for a misdemeanor and that in itself should be enough for further examination, now I'm reading he has been involved in multiple illegal stop and search lawsuits, what more does it take to be indicted, we aren't even speaking of him being found guilty....
Resist arrest and you get force used. Real simple. I suppose cops should just allow people to break laws because a bruise is too much for these criminals to bear.
Autopsy notes that garner died thanks to acute and chronic asthma, obesity and heart disease.
Boom.
You cannot attack a cop. They have no duty to retreat. Sorry, but everyone has a right to protect themselves and we should be sad that these people broke the law and fought cops who are only trying to keep things orderly.
But is that really your argument? The cop should have just fucked the kid is and not shot him?
technically, if you can speak, you can breathe
Lots of armchair politicians ITT. You guys realize that these threads and posts are no different than the article mentioned in the OP right
The difference is that the response to disagreeing with someone else's views on this site is to joke about fucking hookers and doing blow, while the response of the insane ultra liberal totalitarian regime is that their response to yell at me and tell me that my rights are less important than theirs because of something who may have looked mildly like me did to someone who looked mildly like them 200 years ago. Fuck that shit.
hah! you assume I read the article
You sure showed him!
I don't even know why I tried.
Lol he should be fined for using an illegal procedure to kill a man committing a misdemeanor, this is pointless.
His health issues killed him. His criminal behavior killed him. His resisting arrest killed him.
Dude, jaywalking is criminal behavior.... I'm sure everything but the BANNED chokehold killed him, this is absurd
What I find the most interesting about the Garner case is this: This guy was basically killed because he was avoiding taxes on cigarettes. Why were the cops even there? Don't they have anything better to do?
I would have thought the Tea Party would have rallied around this and basically said, "We told you that government power is out of control: the government is murdering its citizens over avoiding small tax payments."
There was an initiative from the Mayor and Chief of Police to crack down on this practice. The order got passed down to the cops.
I agree, this was a minor offense, but I disagree that this is akin to jaywalking. And if a cop stopped me for jaywalking I wouldn't resist arrest or get into a fight about it. I'm not happy this guy died or am saying that killing him is justified. I am just saying what should the cops do to a very large guy that doesn't walk to be arrested.
Fasts
Dude broke the law Cops had the right to arrest him He wasn't going to just get arrested
So if you're a cop you have a couple options
1) walk away 2) forcibly arrest him 3) shoot him 4) Taser/mace him
So we know they aren't going to walk away. Shooting him is absurd. Forcibly arresting him is what caused this. And tasering him might have killed him also because of his medical issues. So I agree, this was tragic and sucks. Guy died for no reason. But I don't see this as anything but a tragic accident. Yeah, a choke hold is not allowed for NYPD cops. He should be punished for the break in protocol. But I think the grand jury got this right. I also think the media is using this to get ratings and fan flames of racism.
I don't disagree with that the cops had to do something if they wanted to arrest him. Probably they went too far.
The question still remains: Do the cops have so little to do that the police chiefs are ordering the arrest of people selling loose cigarettes? Give him a ticket or better yet, go try to stop something violent.
Personally, I wouldn't trust a cop further than I could throw him. Generally, these were the people who were the bottom of the class in high school and have always wanted to get power over others. This is the only job where most of them could get any power at all.
I mean I am done with this conversation. You watch the video and you see an oversized man given his chance to bitch about being arrested for the 31st time. When the cops finally go to peacefully arrest him you see him resist. Cops should have just maced and tasered his dumb ass. And when he couldn't breath from the mace or died cause his diseased heart couldn't handle the mace people could protest that cops are racist, etc etc.
Some people hate cops and look for any reason to shit on them. Some suck, some are fine. They do a job that is risky and sucks and cops working in ghetto areas might as well be in a warzone. Sad this guy died, but his actions caused this. Career criminal refusing to get arrested is going to cause this issue.
I am not changing my view, you aren't changing yours. Such is life.
The chokehold was illegal and his health issues were painfully visible, there's no way that the cops didn't know he was obese. If the cop should have seen jail time/fine/whatever is a matter that at least should have been debated in court, there's clearly a case to be made for both sides. To not even get an indictment is crazy, there's a saying that a half decent prosecutor could indict a ham sandwich.
I watched the video a couple times myself as well and he wasn't cooperating but he also wasn't putting the cops in physical danger either. It looks like the cops just needed to use other techniques and probably learn some verbal de-escalation techniques as well. I've honestly seen high school teachers diffuse worse situations by just being a lot more calm/cool/collected. Honestly it seemed like the cops wanted things to escalate to the point where they needed to use physical force and then did so very aggressively.
TL;DR Chokeholds have been illegal for a while, they knew he was fat.
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