Violence in Chicago

Things are getting pretty rough in Chicago. I've been seeing a lot of these thugs near my area, on lake shore drive. They are infesting north avenue beach and causing havoc throughout the nice neighborhoods like the gold coast, river north, and streeterville. This latest incident happened on saturday evening at a very nice area where northwestern med and law campuses are located. I sincerely hope that Rahm doesn't get soft and let these thugs run wild. The chicago cops should bash these kids' skulls, Rudy style. But of course the liberal democrats will claim that these thugs are victims of white racism and should be "understood."

http://www.suntimes.com/5788512-417/four-robbed-a…

 

In the world of the haves and have nots violence will prevail. These flash mobs by young african american youths will only get worse. I mean they can watch others do it on youtube and not get caught so why not?

The one who does not fall, does not stand up
 

http://articles.boston.com/2011-05-31/news/29604685_1_three-state-troop…

Same sh*t is happening in Boston. No innocent people were hurt in this event (I don't think) but it shows how BookFace and texting allows hundreds or thousands of people to get together within an hour or so.

Think about if you were on the beach with your kid or having a cookout and this sh*t spilled onto your street. I live about a 5 minute walk from this beach. It's a nice neighborhood except it is right near a Train station so all the dregs of society can leave their ghettos to come swim here.

 

http://sssli.com/images/Glock-26%5B1%5D.jpg

I realize it doesn't contain enough rounds for everyone in the mob, but it's a start...and my guess is that many would flee and rethink their activities after they or a friend of theirs was shot and/or killed.

Baby Glock...baby steps.

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
 
cphbravo96:
http://sssli.com/images/Glock-26%5B1%5D.jpg

I realize it doesn't contain enough rounds for everyone in the mob, but it's a start...and my guess is that many would flee and rethink their activities after they or a friend of theirs was shot and/or killed.

Baby Glock...baby steps.

Regards

I hate how glocks look. A lot of them look and feel like toys. I would go with a Makarov or any other type of eastern bloc pistol since they are battle tested.

High points look and feel pretty cool also.

I am not cocky, I am confident, and when you tell me I am the best it is a compliment. -Styles P
 
eokpar02:
cphbravo96:
http://sssli.com/images/Glock-26%5B1%5D.jpg

I realize it doesn't contain enough rounds for everyone in the mob, but it's a start...and my guess is that many would flee and rethink their activities after they or a friend of theirs was shot and/or killed.

Baby Glock...baby steps.

Regards

I hate how glocks look. A lot of them look and feel like toys. I would go with a Makarov or any other type of eastern bloc pistol since they are battle tested.

High points look and feel pretty cool also.

1911 FTW
If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford
 
eokpar02:
cphbravo96:
http://sssli.com/images/Glock-26%5B1%5D.jpg

I realize it doesn't contain enough rounds for everyone in the mob, but it's a start...and my guess is that many would flee and rethink their activities after they or a friend of theirs was shot and/or killed.

Baby Glock...baby steps.

Regards

I hate how glocks look. A lot of them look and feel like toys. I would go with a Makarov or any other type of eastern bloc pistol since they are battle tested.

High points look and feel pretty cool also.

To each his own...but this is absurd...

http://www.theprepared.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=90

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
 
Nobama88:
standing in the middle of the streets to stop traffic, etc.

Or they cross the street as slowly as possible to start shit with you. Or cross right in front of you on purpose just as your light turns green. But what can you do, run them over? If you beep at them, you'll have a brick through your windshield the next morning.

 
Nobama88:
Same shit is happening in my area. These kids come on the train from the shit*oles they are from and cause havoc in the cities nice areas. I used to go on dates with my girlfriend where this is happening now, but no longer. They come in packs of 30, 40, 50+ with pants down low, deliberately cussing and spitting when they walk past your table or your little kids; I have seen 3 fights the last 2 times I have been there and 2 peoples purses were snatched right in front of me. Finally business owners went to the city about it and said enough is enough. The kids go into the shops and destroy shit and leave, running away paying customers, standing in the middle of the streets to stop traffic, etc.

The only thing the city said they could do was enforce a curfew. I wont go to this area any longer and its a shame for the business owners because that was easily $50+ bucks a week I would spend at one of the stores/restaraunts. And I know I am not the only one who wont go back. White flight will ensue and then the black community will call racisim. There is a huge lobby here to keep the train from expanding into the suburbs...and we all know why.

Unfortunately, public transportation in Chicago allows the black thugs to come into the heart of the city's nicest areas. This didn't happen when I first moved here, but beginning last summer it started getting bad. I have a feeling that this summer will witness a major crime wave. Similar incidents have also been reported in boston and nyc, but chicago has been especially severe.

Of course, jesse jackson or al sharpton will never talk about this. And our nation's first black president will not have the audacity to address black crime.

 

Cooincidence that it's happening in areas where guns are heavily regulated/banned? You reap what you sow when you live under communistic rule.

It's a shame when you don't feel safe to go out and can't even protect yourself when you do.

 
txjustin:
Cooincidence that it's happening in areas where guns are heavily regulated/banned? You reap what you sow when you live under communistic rule.

It's a shame when you don't feel safe to go out and can't even protect yourself when you do.

Very true. I'm actually a fan of open carry laws (as opposed to concealed...though I do carry a concealed weapon often)...(1) it provides a measure of safety for people in the area because visually it's a deterrent, (2) there's a significant advantage to drawing from an exposed holster (as opposed to one that is tucked and concealed) should something be going down and (3) it would give LEOs a general idea of who are law abiding citizens (mostly because an exposed firearm would allow the police the right to check your credentials if they felt the need and the thought that criminals wouldn't want to draw unnecessary attention to themselves by open carrying a firearm).

I have family and friends that work through out the law enforcement community and I appreciate all that they do because the job is not easy, not by any stretch of the imagination...but as the saying goes...

When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
 
2036789:
Another race thread started by the same group of racially obsessed people.Instead of focusing on race focus on the real problem: economic disparities.

Right because there are huge groups of white thugs running through stores stealing and looting etc etc. And dont tell me that black people are less fortunate because there are more poor white people in the United States than any other race combined. You can look that fact up if you wish.

The one who does not fall, does not stand up
 
ProdigyOfZen:
2036789:
Another race thread started by the same group of racially obsessed people.Instead of focusing on race focus on the real problem: economic disparities.

Right because there are huge groups of white thugs running through stores stealing and looting etc etc. And dont tell me that black people are less fortunate because there are more poor white people in the United States than any other race combined. You can look that fact up if you wish.

Two groups that are not of the same economic stature should not be compared. There are more poor white people, but there are more poor black people percentage wise(relative to race). The unemployment rate is three times as much for blacks than whites. The only reason for this amount of crime being created has nothing to do with the physical features of a person's body, but the places they are raised in. Also, there are way more poor black people in cities than white people(poor white people are more common in small towns/rural areas). The reason why people are quick to point to race as the root of the problem is because the people who have been targeted historically are minorities. We are just seeing the result of that discrimination(which shows up in minorities more because they are been disadvantaged as a group).Look up those facts if you wish.

If we continue to ignore the history behind these economic disparities then we cannot blame a race of people for anything. If we continue to ignore media brainwashing,slavery, discrimination,etc. we cannot compare one group to another(though this does not mean people should prevent themselves from advancing in life for this reason). Africans are the among the most well off/educated people in America. They do not commit crimes nearly as much. It is an economic problem not a race one. Lets be honest, if there were a bunch of poor rednecks committing crime(which there are), no one's going to generalize those people and make it into a race problem. People would just write them off as poor rednecks. Don't do the same with blacks.

If you look around wallstreetoasis.com you will see tons of negative race threads. North Korean Propaganda and McDonald's fight to name a few. Many of these are started by the same people/

 
2036789:
Another race thread started by the same group of racially obsessed people.Instead of focusing on race focus on the real problem: economic disparities.

P of Z beat me to it. I'm fine focusing on 'economic disparities' but what does that mean? I can't take my kids to the f*cking beach until everyone in Lawndale or Englewood is upper middle class? I get that you don't what this to devolve into race-bashing (and I agree) but there's a real dysfunction in parts of the AA community and there isn't any way to stop it if we pretend it isn't there.

 
2036789:
Another race thread started by the same group of racially obsessed people.Instead of focusing on race focus on the real problem: economic disparities.

How do you close said, economic disparity? I'm not saying they don't exist because they sure do but, what would be a FAIR way to close them. Giving money to people who don't work for it isn't helping considering they are already doing that. (see: unemployment, welfare)

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee WSO is not your personal search function.
 
blackfinancier:
2036789:
Another race thread started by the same group of racially obsessed people.Instead of focusing on race focus on the real problem: economic disparities.

How do you close said, economic disparity? I'm not saying they don't exist because they sure do but, what would be a FAIR way to close them. Giving money to people who don't work for it isn't helping considering they are already doing that. (see: unemployment, welfare)

I am strongly against welfare. Your point?

 
2036789:
Another race thread started by the same group of racially obsessed people.Instead of focusing on race focus on the real problem: economic disparities.

If this was truly about 'economic disparities' then how come ever poor person isn't committing crimes? My dad grew up dirt poor and has never robbed anyone...so what gives?!? Stop trying to justify shitty behavior by shitty people.

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
 
monkeysama:
Chicago is a dying city. From 2000 to 2010 the population fell about 8 percent as people fled to the suburbs according to the recent census.

I know I can, be what I wanna be...if we work hard at it...

we could be the next Detroit. LOL. I don't know that it would ever get to that level, but it will slowly inch closer.

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
 

LOL.... It's the president fault especially since he is black. Last time I checked on Fox News he was HALF black but that also depends on whether it was before the election or after he won...

But to the focal point:

Unfornately, things in life will forever remain, violence, war, racism, poverty, and the list goes on. Just hope you are a light of kindness and not hatred. If not, essentially you are just adding to the evil that lurks whether it be racism, violence, etc.

I agree; things need to be addressed but it is the manner you go about it. Simply sitting behind a computer screen pasting articles about AA thugs does nothing besides incite racism. As I stated above you are no better than the thugs sitting and cursing...

However, getting involved in the community is what does. I help out with Boy & Girls Clubs in NYC. I see first hand where this behavior starts...and it at a young age. Hopefully I can impact 3 or 4 kids lives that will touch others lives. This is just one scenario there are countless other ways...

Kindness is contagious.

 
seminoleNYC:
LOL.... It's the president fault especially since he is black. Last time I checked on Fox News he was HALF black but that also depends on whether it was before the election or after he won...

But to the focal point:

Unfornately, things in life will forever remain, violence, war, racism, poverty, and the list goes on. Just hope you are a light of kindness and not hatred. If not, essentially you are just adding to the evil that lurks whether it be racism, violence, etc.

I agree; things need to be addressed but it is the manner you go about it. Simply sitting behind a computer screen pasting articles about AA thugs does nothing besides incite racism. As I stated above you are no better than the thugs sitting and cursing...

However, getting involved in the community is what does. I help out with Boy & Girls Clubs in NYC. I see first hand where this behavior starts...and it at a young age. Hopefully I can impact 3 or 4 kids lives that will touch others lives. This is just one scenario there are countless other ways...

Kindness is contagious.

I love your typical liberal first paragraph.

I'll give you a little info as well: I also volunteer with my free time. I volunteer at a battered women's shelter. Guess what race 75% of the people are?

It simply comes down to people taking blame for their own faults/laziness and taking care of themselves. Until that's happens, the vicious circle will continue.

 

Completely Agree; I still think your missing the premise of my rebuttal. I do not have time to address things on a larger issue. I address thing that will have a immediate impact on someone's life. Where did I ever say this is going to address the whole picture? It does not and will not. I can see first hand how I have affected someone's life. Minimal yes, one or two youth, yes...Eventually though they will graduate from HS in a year or two and hopefully I can give them direction to continue to strive to break the cycle. Attend college and make a positive contribution to society.

 

@ 2036789

I am just pointing out facts. Yes there are more poor blacks percentage wise than whites but there are more poor whites population wise. Which one do you think matters more? I am trying to say there are systemic problems in the AA community that are direct causes of the behavior we see today. Most of that is not becuase of slavery or discrimination.

Do you think the chinese who came to cali hundreds of years ago to build the railroads did not face discrimination? Why is it when we talk about minorities it is only black and hispanic not asian or middle easten etc. What happens when whites are the minority in the US in a few years?

I don't hate anybody i just point out facts. Kinda like most pedophiles are white middle aged men but most violent crime is committed by black males.

The color of someones skin has the least to do with their race. Contrary to popular myths race does exist and if anthropoligists werent so PC they would admit it as well.

Everybody should be treated equally until that particular person regardless of race does something negative to warrant being treated bad. I believe most behaviour is innate and not learned. We just have to accept the fact that every culture is different even adjusting for the socioeconomic differences.

obviously if you go to France there are tons of white kids running around throwing molotov cocktails and rioting in the streets. Cultures are different.

The one who does not fall, does not stand up
 
ProdigyOfZen:
@ 2036789

I am just pointing out facts. Yes there are more poor blacks percentage wise than whites but there are more poor whites population wise. Which one do you think matters more? I am trying to say there are systemic problems in the AA community that are direct causes of the behavior we see today. Most of that is not becuase of slavery or discrimination.

Do you think the chinese who came to cali hundreds of years ago to build the railroads did not face discrimination? Why is it when we talk about minorities it is only black and hispanic not asian or middle easten etc. What happens when whites are the minority in the US in a few years?

I don't hate anybody i just point out facts. Kinda like most pedophiles are white middle aged men but most violent crime is committed by black males.

The color of someones skin has the least to do with their race. Contrary to popular myths race does exist and if anthropoligists werent so PC they would admit it as well.

Everybody should be treated equally until that particular person regardless of race does something negative to warrant being treated bad. I believe most behavior is innate and not learned. We just have to accept the fact that every culture is different even adjusting for the socioeconomic differences.

obviously if you go to France there are tons of white kids running around throwing Molotov cocktails and rioting in the streets. Cultures are different.

No offense, but if you think history does not play a role in what happens today then you are delusional. Everything that happens today is a result of the past. Are you telling me that if slavery/colonization/discrimination did not happen minorities would be in the situation they are in today? That does not mean people should focus on it and not move on.

 
2036789:
ProdigyOfZen:
@ 2036789

I am just pointing out facts. Yes there are more poor blacks percentage wise than whites but there are more poor whites population wise. Which one do you think matters more? I am trying to say there are systemic problems in the AA community that are direct causes of the behavior we see today. Most of that is not becuase of slavery or discrimination.

Do you think the chinese who came to cali hundreds of years ago to build the railroads did not face discrimination? Why is it when we talk about minorities it is only black and hispanic not asian or middle easten etc. What happens when whites are the minority in the US in a few years?

I don't hate anybody i just point out facts. Kinda like most pedophiles are white middle aged men but most violent crime is committed by black males.

The color of someones skin has the least to do with their race. Contrary to popular myths race does exist and if anthropoligists werent so PC they would admit it as well.

Everybody should be treated equally until that particular person regardless of race does something negative to warrant being treated bad. I believe most behavior is innate and not learned. We just have to accept the fact that every culture is different even adjusting for the socioeconomic differences.

obviously if you go to France there are tons of white kids running around throwing Molotov cocktails and rioting in the streets. Cultures are different.

No offense, but if you think history does not play a role in what happens today then you are delusional. Everything that happens today is a result of the past. Are you telling me that if slavery/colonization/discrimination did not happen minorities would be in the situation they are in today? That does not mean people should focus on it and not move on.

calm down. I did not say that history is NOT a part of it, I just said that the RECENT history in the last 200 years is not the most important part. If you want want to go back even further in history to say the last 50,000 years and the environments that each racial group developed in then i would say lets do that, because that has more of a relation to today than the last 200 years.

Okay well if "whites" had not colonized sub saharan africa then they would most likely be further behind than they are now. And NO dont go saying i am justifying colonization or slavery because those were different times and at one point in history the entire continent of europe (see all white people) were slaves.

Sub saharan Africa did not even have the wheel until europeans showed up and still lived in mud huts with no cities no written language etc etc until they arrived en masse. Would you like to talk about those facts? I didnt think so. They just lived a different life at that point in history and I am not saying it was any better or any worse than the european lifestyle in that time period.

Try not to pull the one thing out of my entire post that you can argue about and try to paint me in a different light. Try to address my entire post and each idea in it please.

The one who does not fall, does not stand up
 
2036789:
...No offense, but if you think history does not play a role in what happens today then you are delusional. Everything that happens today is a result of the past. Are you telling me that if slavery/colonization/discrimination did not happen minorities would be in the situation they are in today? That does not mean people should focus on it and not move on.

Good point, they could be living in the booming Utopia of sub Sahara Africa!!

Is slavery really the reason young black children don't even show up for class? Really?

How is it minorities, including African Americans (not black Americans, but the ones that have actually touched the soil in Africa) come here with virtually no money, from Nigeria, Sudan, etc where they were hungry and had to walk miles upon miles everyday just to get to a one room school are better educated than the blacks that live in the ghettos of American cities who have city buses and school lunches and air conditioned gymnasiums, etc.? It just doesn't add up.

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
 

The poorer the people, the more crime there is. Latinos commit plenty of crime, but we should not generalize them. MS-13 have enormous influence in California and through out the country. They traffic tons of drugs into the country and commit all kinds of crazy times(amputating people, blowing stuff up,etc.). MS-13 members are comprised of poor people many of which are illegal immigrants. They come from poor backgrounds and are raised in them. That is why they are committing crimes. Black culture does not promote violence, learn about it instead of generalizing it. It is the culture of poverty that makes people hungry and do bad things. Re-read what I said instead of repeating practically the same thing and generalizing. I hate government handouts.

There is a bias towards white people. We do not talk about white culture and how it promotes greed/pleasure which results in disorderly behavior(lack of maturity, greed,violence,etc.). Exploiting third world countries for their mineral resources,brainwashing them,feeding them Christian nonsense,subtle white-superiority, and destroying tons of things shouldn't count of white people?Wake up. We should not do the same for blacks.

 
2036789:
The poorer the people, the more crime there is. Latinos commit plenty of crime, but we should not generalize them. MS-13 have enormous influence in California and through out the country. They traffic tons of drugs into the country and commit all kinds of crazy times(amputating people, blowing stuff up,etc.). MS-13 members are comprised of poor people many of which are illegal immigrants. They come from poor backgrounds and are raised in them. That is why they are committing crimes. Black culture does not promote violence, learn about it instead of generalizing it. It is the culture of poverty that makes people hungry and do bad things. Re-read what I said instead of repeating practically the same thing and generalizing. I hate government handouts.

There is a bias towards white people. We do not talk about white culture and how it promotes greed/pleasure which results in disorderly behavior(lack of maturity, greed,violence,etc.). Exploiting third world countries for their mineral resources,brainwashing them,feeding them Christian nonsense,subtle white-superiority, and destroying tons of things shouldn't count of white people?Wake up. We should not do the same for blacks.

Paragraph 2 If you don't like capitalism, Chrisitanity, etc. don't live in America and don't do business with American companies.

 
txjustin:
2036789:
The poorer the people, the more crime there is. Latinos commit plenty of crime, but we should not generalize them. MS-13 have enormous influence in California and through out the country. They traffic tons of drugs into the country and commit all kinds of crazy times(amputating people, blowing stuff up,etc.). MS-13 members are comprised of poor people many of which are illegal immigrants. They come from poor backgrounds and are raised in them. That is why they are committing crimes. Black culture does not promote violence, learn about it instead of generalizing it. It is the culture of poverty that makes people hungry and do bad things. Re-read what I said instead of repeating practically the same thing and generalizing. I hate government handouts.

There is a bias towards white people. We do not talk about white culture and how it promotes greed/pleasure which results in disorderly behavior(lack of maturity, greed,violence,etc.). Exploiting third world countries for their mineral resources,brainwashing them,feeding them Christian nonsense,subtle white-superiority, and destroying tons of things shouldn't count of white people?Wake up. We should not do the same for blacks.

Paragraph 2 If you don't like capitalism, Chrisitanity, etc. don't live in America and don't do business with American companies.

Seems like you don't understand people too well. I live on the North Shore of Chicago. I have no reason to hate capitalism,America, or Christianity and I don't. There is a difference between capitalism,Christianity, and other things compared to screwing people over with those values.

 
2036789:
There is a bias towards white people. We do not talk about white culture and how it promotes greed/pleasure
Is this a joke...have you seen an AA produced hip hop video since roughly forever? Every culture has a thing for greed and pleasure. Its called being human. Why would I strive to drive a Hyundai when I could strive to drive a Bentley with my Dollar Bills attached to the side with the hopes and dreams of strippers flying out the top of my drop top...
If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford
 
happypantsmcgee:
2036789:
There is a bias towards white people. We do not talk about white culture and how it promotes greed/pleasure
Is this a joke...have you seen an AA produced hip hop video since roughly forever? Every culture has a thing for greed and pleasure. Its called being human. Why would I strive to drive a Hyundai when I could strive to drive a Bentley with my Dollar Bills attached to the side with the hopes and dreams of strippers flying out the top of my drop top...

I never said other cultures don't have greed. All cultures have greed, but the same things that people are saying negatively impact African American culture affect white culture too. So why is this a race issue?It's an economic one.

BTW people are not cars so don't make the comparison. Apples and Oranges.

 
2036789:
The poorer the people, the more crime there is. Latinos commit plenty of crime, but we should not generalize them. MS-13 have enormous influence in California and through out the country. They traffic tons of drugs into the country and commit all kinds of crazy times(amputating people, blowing stuff up,etc.). MS-13 members are comprised of poor people many of which are illegal immigrants. They come from poor backgrounds and are raised in them. That is why they are committing crimes. Black culture does not promote violence, learn about it instead of generalizing it. It is the culture of poverty that makes people hungry and do bad things. Re-read what I said instead of repeating practically the same thing and generalizing. I hate government handouts.

There is a bias towards white people. We do not talk about white culture and how it promotes greed/pleasure which results in disorderly behavior(lack of maturity, greed,violence,etc.). Exploiting third world countries for their mineral resources,brainwashing them,feeding them Christian nonsense,subtle white-superiority, and destroying tons of things shouldn't count of white people?Wake up. We should not do the same for blacks.

Liberal Alert!!

So what is your solution? You liberals are so full of criticisms that you can't manage any space for solutions.

Again, if this problem is simply a result of poverty...then how come all poor people don't commit crimes?!?

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
 
cphbravo96:
2036789:
The poorer the people, the more crime there is. Latinos commit plenty of crime, but we should not generalize them. MS-13 have enormous influence in California and through out the country. They traffic tons of drugs into the country and commit all kinds of crazy times(amputating people, blowing stuff up,etc.). MS-13 members are comprised of poor people many of which are illegal immigrants. They come from poor backgrounds and are raised in them. That is why they are committing crimes. Black culture does not promote violence, learn about it instead of generalizing it. It is the culture of poverty that makes people hungry and do bad things. Re-read what I said instead of repeating practically the same thing and generalizing. I hate government handouts.

There is a bias towards white people. We do not talk about white culture and how it promotes greed/pleasure which results in disorderly behavior(lack of maturity, greed,violence,etc.). Exploiting third world countries for their mineral resources,brainwashing them,feeding them Christian nonsense,subtle white-superiority, and destroying tons of things shouldn't count of white people?Wake up. We should not do the same for blacks.

Liberal Alert!!

So what is your solution? You liberals are so full of criticisms that you can't manage any space for solutions.

Again, if this problem is simply a result of poverty...then how come all poor people don't commit crimes?!?

Regards

Lol, I'm definitely not a liberal and all poor people don't commit crimes(no shit). People who are poor are more likely to commit poverty.Think.

 
Best Response

Ok, look. Here is the reality of the situation. This post was made because shit is popping off like whoa in Chicago and bitches be getting fucked up and their evenings ruined by hoodlums.

Look at it this way. If I told you, "Blue cars are driving down side walks running motherfuckers over everywhere in this town for the last few months." I am not making a value judgment about the car. I am describing the car in the best way I know to describe it. It is a blue car. That does not mean I hate blue cars. It does not mean that I think blue cars hold less value than red cars. It just means that the cars running bitches over on the sidewalk are fucking blue. Its an adjective. Its a descriptor. I really don't have any obligation to pontificate about why blue cars seem to have less control or worse steering than red cars. I am just conveying the facts of what happened to people who may not know.

Buy a gun.

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford
 
happypantsmcgee:
Ok, look. Here is the reality of the situation. This post was made because shit is popping off like whoa in Chicago and bitches be getting fucked up and their evenings ruined by hoodlums.

Look at it this way. If I told you, "Blue cars are driving down side walks running motherfuckers over everywhere in this town for the last few months." I am not making a value judgment about the car. I am describing the car in the best way I know to describe it. It is a blue car. That does not mean I hate blue cars. It does not mean that I think blue cars hold less value than red cars. It just means that the cars running bitches over on the sidewalk are fucking blue. Its an adjective. Its a descriptor. I really don't have any obligation to pontificate about why blue cars seem to have less control or worse steering than red cars. I am just conveying the facts of what happened to people who may not know.

Buy a gun.

Seriously though, red cars are wayyyyy superior!

 
happypantsmcgee:
Ok, look. Here is the reality of the situation. This post was made because shit is popping off like whoa in Chicago and bitches be getting fucked up and their evenings ruined by hoodlums.

Look at it this way. If I told you, "Blue cars are driving down side walks running motherfuckers over everywhere in this town for the last few months." I am not making a value judgment about the car. I am describing the car in the best way I know to describe it. It is a blue car. That does not mean I hate blue cars. It does not mean that I think blue cars hold less value than red cars. It just means that the cars running bitches over on the sidewalk are fucking blue. Its an adjective. Its a descriptor. I really don't have any obligation to pontificate about why blue cars seem to have less control or worse steering than red cars. I am just conveying the facts of what happened to people who may not know.

Buy a gun.

Obviously the cars are poor, duh!

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
 

Frankly, I could give two shits about the "cause". All I see is the "symptoms" and if that means someone comes up to me on Lake Shore Drive and tries to take my iPhone, they better hope Chicago hasn't legalized concealed carry..

"I don't know how to explain to you that you should care about other people."
 

CPH, the "economic disparities" argument's a bit of a red herring. It's more about a feeling (with emphasis) of limited opportunities. I think that's where 203's point about % of black people who are poor comes in. Ironically, many programs ostensibly designed to alleviate these disparities only make things worse, as I'm sure you'll agree.

I'm sure there's some institutionalized discrimination going on, but I don't see a way to speed up its destruction and most efforts seem to entrench it.

In the mean time OP, fit yourself out like Antonio Banderas in Desperado.

"Dude, not trying to be a dick here, but your shop looks like a frontrunner for the cover of Better Boilerrooms & Chophouses or Bucketshop Quarterly." -Uncle Eddie
 

2 interesting points I can chip in here.

Guess what ethnic group has the largest number of single mothers (read no father figure in the home), and some people will know how harsh a life is in an environment with no money.

A statistic I saw in the 2008 elections, 97% of black people voted for obama. Imagine the riots if the whites did the opposite.

Boom

 
trazer985:
2 interesting points I can chip in here.

Guess what ethnic group has the largest number of single mothers (read no father figure in the home), and some people will know how harsh a life is in an environment with no money.

A statistic I saw in the 2008 elections, 97% of black people voted for obama. Imagine the riots if the whites did the opposite.

Boom

Roughly 90% of black voters vote for the Democratic candidate in plenty of elections.

 
trazer985:
2 interesting points I can chip in here.

Guess what ethnic group has the largest number of single mothers (read no father figure in the home), and some people will know how harsh a life is in an environment with no money.

A statistic I saw in the 2008 elections, 97% of black people voted for obama. Imagine the riots if the whites did the opposite.

Boom

This is the point I have (attempted) previously made. A lack of income isn't going to help most situations, but it's dishonest to say that poverty is a cause of all this destructive behavior because not everyone in poverty commits crimes. In the same vein, you can't say that poor people (in this case inner city blacks) don't know about their potential opportunities because they are poor...simply because some (maybe many) have come from the most dire situations and have achieved prominence.

Instead of looking at a situation and making excuses 'why', people (especially leaders in the black community) need to construct reasons 'how'...how did so-and-so make it out while others didn't? In many cases you will either find a home that is fervently religious, has both parents in tact or often has one parental figure (possibly a grandmother or aunt) who is one of the two previous options, or both). The people from these backgrounds are taught the value of hard work and dedication and most often are the ones that become successful. And just to be clear, going to church/mass/etc doesn't make someone religious.

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
 

The biggest gang in Chi, and the one I'd be most worried about., is the police. When you have a bunch of dirtbags running around with guns and badges, how do you expect to get the streets cleaned up?

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 

I love how you guys argue about shit your ancestors did. Be like me, judge people on how they dress and act. Especially the how they dress part, if I see you walking down the street wearing pants that show your ass, a t-shirt that goes to your knees, or a hoodie 4 sizes to big, I'm going to assume, in this order: 1) you have a weapon, 2) you're not worth talking to. Don't care if you're white, black, or somewhere in between.

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 

I know, for how open-minded they are, they sure aren't willing to listen to other people's opinions

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 

I don't respect authority in the form of the government, courts, or police, but I do respect other people's rights and I take my own future into account when thinking about what stupid shit not to do. Of course my anti-government philosophies are probably far more developed than your age 16 year old gang banger

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 
D M:
I don't respect authority in the form of the government, courts, or police, but I do respect other people's rights and I take my own future into account when thinking about what stupid shit not to do. Of course my anti-government philosophies are probably far more developed than your age 16 year old gang banger

Again, you either respect the law and do what it says because you believe in the system or you fear the consequences. Sometimes it's a little of both. Typically when you are young, it's the latter, as you age it becomes more of the former.

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
 

I don't respect the law because of what it's turned my country into. I don't break the law because it will keep me from attaining certain goals I have for myself. I guess it's kind of hard to explain, but just know that I have strong moral/philosophical reasoning behind my anti-government rhetoric

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 

Damn, the 600 block of N. Lake Shore drive is even under fire... that's pretty serious.

That's right next to where I grew up... it's not for thugs, it's for doctors, businessmen, lawyers and spoiled children. The heathens must be stopped.

 
International Pymp:
Damn, the 600 block of N. Lake Shore drive is even under fire... that's pretty serious.

That's right next to where I grew up... it's not for thugs, it's for doctors, businessmen, lawyers and spoiled children. The heathens must be stopped.

Awww shit.

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee WSO is not your personal search function.
 
International Pymp:
Damn, the 600 block of N. Lake Shore drive is even under fire... that's pretty serious.

That's right next to where I grew up... it's not for thugs, it's for doctors, businessmen, lawyers and spoiled children. The heathens must be stopped.

Talk about turrr-able! LOL.

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
 

Anyone saying that poverty causes crime is an IDIOT.
http://mindbodypolitic.com/2010/01/05/recession-brings-fall-in-crime-ra…

Crime is much, much lower now than at the beginning of the decade.

http://cornellsun.com/section/news/content/2009/04/14/no-direct-link-be…

Crime during the great depression was also low. Black people were far poorer during the early part of the 20th century, yet their associated crime rate was far lower. Today, 1 in 3 black males can expect to be incarcerated, a gigantic jump from the early part of the century when the incarceration rate was equal to the white rate.

I am not cocky, I am confident, and when you tell me I am the best it is a compliment. -Styles P
 

Shit like this was going down in a bad neighborhood where a friend of mine lives. My friend's neighbor got fead up and bought a gun. The next week when the thugs came by he shot one of them in the leg.

They never showed up again.

Let this teach you a lesson.

 
Freshcut:
Shit like this was going down in a bad neighborhood where a friend of mine lives. My friend's neighbor got fead up and bought a gun. The next week when the thugs came by he shot one of them in the leg.

They never showed up again.

Let this teach you a lesson.

In the leg? If you bought a gun you would think a person might go through the trouble of learning how to properly shoot the damned thing. Some people's kids.

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
 
cphbravo96:
Freshcut:
Shit like this was going down in a bad neighborhood where a friend of mine lives. My friend's neighbor got fead up and bought a gun. The next week when the thugs came by he shot one of them in the leg.

They never showed up again.

Let this teach you a lesson.

In the leg? If you bought a gun you would think a person might go through the trouble of learning how to properly shoot the damned thing. Some people's kids.

Regards

If I was in a situation like that I think I would aim for the leg. Where else are you gonna shoot without potentially killing them? Leg = big enough target + sends a message without ending the poor sucker
 
happypantsmcgee:
eokpar02:
happypantsmcgee:
1911 FTW

The 1911 is probably the most popular style handgun in the world. I just don't like the size and grip. I would take a high point over them for home defense, but for concealed/open carry nothing can beat the makarov or any kel tec.

Eh, I tend to disagree. If we are strictly speaking full size 1911s then yes, conceal is tough but if you look at stuff like the Kimber Pro and Ultra Carry models, those are solid and easily concealed.

1911's although some don't like the weight they are an excellent piece for home protection and equally available in compacts for personal protection. Springfield EMP for personal is about as much as anyone would ever need and not heavy at all. Kimber is too $$$ for what you get now. For that kind of money Les Baer, Wilson Combat or Nighthawk are better products.

Freshcut:
Shit like this was going down in a bad neighborhood where a friend of mine lives. My friend's neighbor got fead up and bought a gun. The next week when the thugs came by he shot one of them in the leg.

They never showed up again.

Let this teach you a lesson.

...best I can recall, the protocol on personal and home protection when protecting ones' self is you point, empty the clip, reload, then assess the threat. That once in the leg shit will get you killed.

 
eokpar02:
happypantsmcgee:
1911 FTW

The 1911 is probably the most popular style handgun in the world. I just don't like the size and grip. I would take a high point over them for home defense, but for concealed/open carry nothing can beat the makarov or any kel tec.

Proud 1911 owner here.

It's nice when you can put your own touch on a high quality piece. If you ever have to duff/threaten a man/prostitute, do it in style.

Also the weight does a good job of taming the .45 recoil.

 

I dont think just posting articles about what the "blacks" did are really helping the situation much. But I agree that the city can not continue to allow this type of behavior.

 
MAmoney:
I dont think just posting articles about what the "blacks" did are really helping the situation much. But I agree that the city can not continue to allow this type of behavior.

Good point. We should simply ignore it and the problem will just go away on it's own.

I was actually surprised that no one really talked about the events that occurred in Miami over Memorial Day weekend at the annual Urban Beach Weekend.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/05/30/2242766/activists-ask-if-urban-we…

Obviously the event is open to anyone but it has been characterized as "Black Beach Weekend" (see URL name below)

http://www.blackbeachweek.com/urbanbeachweek1.html

For those you from the south and/or familiar with the event, Urban Beach Weekend is similar to Freaknik, which was pushed out of Atlanta after having some serious problems with overcrowding and crime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freaknik

I just don't know how you can ignore this poor, dangerous behavior?

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
 
Nobama88:
The founder of Urban Weekend came out and said he would never attend one of these events again. He has not been to one in over 2 years. He ment for it to be professional adults who attend, not the young thugs that make up 90% of the event.

I heard about this. Here is the article http://miami.cbslocal.com/2011/06/02/uncle-luke-co-founder-of-urban-bea…

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee WSO is not your personal search function.
 
blackfinancier][quote=Nobama88:
The founder of Urban Weekend came out and said he would never attend one of these events again. He has not been to one in over 2 years. He ment for it to be professional adults who attend, not the young thugs that make up 90% of the event.

I heard about this. Here is the article http://miami.cbslocal.com/2011/06/02/uncle-luke-co-founder-of-urban-bea…]

The craziest part about that whole thing is the founder, Luther Campbell isn't some choir boy who had his annual church picnic turned on its ear...he is a rapper, a leader of the rap group 2 Live Crew, has been produced adult films and was the ring leader in the early 90's Miami Hurricanes football woes...so it's crazy to think that this event has reached a point where a guy with a resume like that says, "Hold up, it's getting out of control".

On a lighter note, he may be running for mayor of Miami-Dade County, lol.

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
 
shera:
Black are that way in the US because of out deep history of slavery and racism. Everywhere else in the world they are polite, smart, successful, and hardworking. Oh wait.

Haha!

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
 
shera:
Black are that way in the US because of out deep history of slavery and racism. Everywhere else in the world they are polite, smart, successful, and hardworking. Oh wait.

To be fair, there are some really smart and hard working Nigerians here in the U.S. But yeah, I think generally speaking, black culture in the U.S. promotes violence, laziness, and the victim complex. Much of this can be attributed to the breakdown of the traditional family that resulted from democrats' welfare social policies of the 1960's.

 
Brady4MVP:
shera:
Black are that way in the US because of out deep history of slavery and racism. Everywhere else in the world they are polite, smart, successful, and hardworking. Oh wait.

To be fair, there are some really smart and hard working Nigerians here in the U.S. But yeah, I think generally speaking, black culture in the U.S. promotes violence, laziness, and the victim complex. Much of this can be attributed to the breakdown of the traditional family that resulted from democrats' welfare social policies of the 1960's.

Are you referring to the Nigerians that win all those running events in the US?

 
VolatilitySmile:
To all the people saying guns are the answer...Chicago does not permit concealed carry and Illinois is one of the most anti-gun states in the country.
Yea, we know, thats the point. The people perpetrating these crimes can be fairly confident that the people they are attacking do not have a firearm with which to defend themselves.
If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford
 

Just my two cents.

I live in River North in the middle of all this. Yeah, I am worried about it, but let's keep some perspective. It might be a group of dozens of individuals, maybe one hundred. But that is not every black kid in Chicago. It is quite possible that this craze calms down. These 'thugs' are picking extremely easy targets-people on scooters, old ladies, store clerks or someone with children to protect...pretty cowardly. These are stupid kids, if they were ganstas someone would have been shot by now.

And as much as I don't like to see it happen and want to see an end to this- N Michigan Ave is still a whole lot safer than Marquette Park.

 

[quote=Nobama88]hahaha.

Good Lord.

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The fucking guys don't even steal the fucking bike. Its shit like this that makes me feel racist people are justified in their views.

Follow the shit your fellow monkeys say @shitWSOsays Life is hard, it's even harder when you're stupid - John Wayne
 
ANT:
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2011/06/09/3-stabbed-in-downtown-san-j…

Nothing to see here people, move along.

Hope & Change will make it all better.

Not wanting to be left out of this trend, NY steps up to the plate...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2001833/Brighton-Beach-shooting…

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
 
cphbravo96:
ANT:
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2011/06/09/3-stabbed-in-downtown-san-j…

Nothing to see here people, move along.

Hope & Change will make it all better.

Not wanting to be left out of this trend, NY steps up to the plate...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2001833/Brighton-Beach-shooting…

Regards

Have you noticed where all the early summer issues have been? YES they have been in states, cities and towns where our GOVERNMENT officials REFUSE to let it's citizens protect themselves. The early trouble has been in anti-gun law states. Would this of happened on the Lake of the Ozarks? NO why? Becuase everyone has the right to carry. If you tried that on LoO chances are great that you will be shot in the face, possibly at 500' This happened New York. Hmmm. The other trouble is in Chicago. Obamas RESIDING state where he voted AGAINST the people daily

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2001833/Brighton-Beach-shooting…

A comment from the article

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee WSO is not your personal search function.
 
mfoste1:
america is headed to hell in a handbasket.....

Yeah, and that hand basket is strapped to a fucking rocket.

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
 

What are the Gun Laws in New York?

Handguns

*Permit to purchase handgun? Yes.

*Registration of handguns? Yes.

*Licensing of owners of handguns? Yes.

*Permit to <span class="keyword_link"><a href="//www.wallstreetoasis.com/finance-dictionary/what-is-carry">carry</a></span> handguns? Yes. 

Been a few times in NYC, never knew these facts.

http://www.madhedgefundtrader.com/ http://www.tradersmagazine.com/
 

It's getting worse in Toronto, too

I'm a student living in a fairly decent, upper-middle class neighborhood and I was robbed twice over the past three years walking home at night, in one case literally 5 minutes from my house. The first time it was a group of 3 blacks and a wigger (two of them had hammers) and the second time it was two fine African gentlemen with knives on bikes (probably stole the bikes). Both times I was powerless to do anything, as I was unarmed and there were more of them...ended up losing my wallet (having to replace all the cards), mp3 players, cell phone. No injuries thank god, but you end up hating yourself and feeling like a pussy.

I know three friends who have also been robbed/mugged recently, one was beaten so bad that he received a concussion and spent a week in the hospital. Concussion are bad for the brain, yo. The other two friends didn't bother calling the police and I only called 911 the second time I got robbed, leading me to believe there's MANY unreported crimes and that the real crime rate is actually much higher.

I'm an immigrant from Eastern Europe so I can't say shit about immigration but honestly...if I was an ethnic Canadian, born here, I'd be fucking pissed even more! Why are they letting these people into the country!? There's always problems with the Blacks and Latinos, Arabs like to stir shit up too sometimes; Indians and Russians/Eastern Europeans commit a lot of non-violent crime like tax evasion/avoidance, satellite signal theft, student loan and insurance fraud, in suburbia they steal electricity and fuck with the power meters, etc...they should have a strict quota on immigration, WAY less than it is now, and limit it exclusively to Western Europe, and developed East Asia if there are any slots left over.

TL;DR - crime's getting worse in Toronto, got robbed twice, immigration policy is ridiculous.

I'm stoked this fine day.
 
Edmundo Braverman:
This can't be real, can it?

It's fake yet black people have been acting foolish because of it.... There is some news story on it somewhere
The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee WSO is not your personal search function.
 
blackfinancier:
Edmundo Braverman:
This can't be real, can it?

It's fake yet black people have been acting foolish because of it.... There is some news story on it somewhere
They have? Do you guys have like a listserve or something because I hadn't even seen it before Eddy posted it.
If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford
 
Edmundo Braverman:
This can't be real, can it?

Haha, this must be real...or at least it would explain why people are stabbing folks in the parking lot instead of inside the restaurant. I love my dub nugs as much as the next guy, but I don't know if I would cut a bitch for them, lol.

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
 

[quote=Brady4MVP]Things are getting pretty rough in Chicago. I've been seeing a lot of these thugs near my area, on lake shore drive. They are infesting north avenue beach and causing havoc throughout the nice neighborhoods like the gold coast, river north, and streeterville. This latest incident happened on saturday evening at a very nice area where northwestern med and law campuses are located. I sincerely hope that Rahm doesn't get soft and let these thugs run wild. The chicago cops should bash these kids' skulls, Rudy style. But of course the liberal democrats will claim that these thugs are victims of white racism and should be "understood."

http://www.suntimes.com/5788512-417/four-robbed-attacked-by-mob-of-youn…]

This is disappointing to hear. Streeterville, Gold Coast, River North, etc. were my old stomping grounds (miss Fox & Obel). It didn't seem that bad when I was there a few years ago.

Here is an interesting site: http://www.chicagogangs.org/index.php?pr=GANG_MAPS

 

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