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Hey everyone, as a 3rd yr Associate I have been getting calls from various other firms looking to hire VPs. Does anyone know what the going rate is for VP salary after all of the base adjustments that were made over the past year?

Thanks

Believe a 1st year VP is around $175K base now. Not sure on total comp.

 

If you absolutely need this info you absolutely know other means to get it than this forum.

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee WSO is not your personal search function.
 

You might not be getting answers because no one believes that a undergrad is being offered a VP spot. Unless by M&A you mean telemarketing?

Edit the post, take out undergrad and you'll get answers

 

It's probably something like $500,000 all in after a good year. By the way you don't need to make up fake stories to get answers for questions you may have.

 

Agree with Seanc. The top VP at the boutique I worked at last summer pulled in around $625,000 (all-in).

I suspect it is probably higher for VPs at BBs.

But since you claim it is bonus only, it will be purely dependent on the deals you are on.

For the record, I also call bullshit. There is no way some bank would be stupid enough make a 22 year old a VP. In the off chance that you are telling the truth, I really wouldn't want to work at a place that is willing to give up the VP title that easily.

 

Clarification: You mentioned VP's may pull in 500K. Is this usually done via standard bonus rate, or is it heavily tied into revenue?

What I'd like to know is if 25% of my company's profits is a decent deal. Thanks

 
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Dear Mr. Butch Armstrong,

You're a moron. Do not insult middle market banks by making the claim that they are going to hire someone as a VP who has never written a book, never opened a model, never negotiated terms of a deal, and never managed anything other than his homework and bating schedule. In your world of make believe, a VP of Copying and Pasting would probably earn his weight in color laser printer paper. Assuming a ream of paper costs $10 and weighs 5lbs the average professional would earn $320 and maybe a bonus for the weight of his crap.

For fun, let's take some shrooms and pretend they hired you as a VP out of undergrad. Are you reporting to an MD or directly to the super-duper MD? Please advise.

 

Really? You'd think they'd get paid more. I mean first year associates start at like $95k-$100k base....

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There is certainly some responsibility with this new role. I see you being above $150k base but way below the $300k mentioned above. My gut says $150k+ with bonus of 40-50%. As your staff grows you could obtain Director title rather quickly and your base pay could then jump up significantly to the $225k range. Still same bonus structure. carry on deals would be great.

 

There's been an implication of carry on deals done. I'd imagine that has an effect on initial base / bonus numbers but I have no way to quantify or guess as to what the carry or effect will be. Being real estate I'm sure there's a range of flex but anyone's gut is helpful as a data point.

PacNumber do you have any opinion on the etiquette of reaching out to known or less known recruiters?

Thanks for the help thus far.

"The only point in making money is so you can tell some big shot where to go.” -Bogie
 

Depends on where your market is. My struggle with recruiters is this, you have to meet exactly the job description posted. So if you have 9yrs experience but the job posted for Associate level is 5-7 yrs. They'll just flat out tell you they won't make a case for you. This is good and bad. Their loyalty is to the employer. They work for them, not you.

 

I didn't articulate my question very well, and I sympathize with general recruiter/recruitee relationships as an aside.

I was thinking about contacting one recruiter I know very well, who placed me at the firm originally, to get his gut on the pay range. I would obviously not bring his name up in the discussion with the employer, but I didn't know if even asking put him in too awkward of a position or if that kind of call would be a welcome relationship builder from his point of view. There are also a handful of other recruiters in the past I've kept fairly warm relations with but don't know as well as the first. Wondering if it would be perceived as rude to ask them the question of "What should the comp range be for a position with X responsibilities and Y experience" if there wasn't much I could promise them in the near term.

Probably a personal question for my own tolerances but always like to get input when I can.

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