What is the hardest class you have ever taken?
This could be in any subject or level of study. Just want to hear some of the course names.
Also, feel free to post your grade in the course.
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Intro to poli sci - droped
I had to drop this course too. I was trying to study my political science theories in the libraries but there were all these asians talking on their cellphones before I got my epiphany. I don't know what an epiphany was but I was close to getting one.
Same struggle with economics, reality differs violently from theory. Just could not bring myself to believe in academic econ.
Applied Theories. I couldn't solve the Fourier System.
molecular biophysics
Advanced Algorithms(grad level). This term I'm taking Inference and Information, which on an absolute scale seems harder, but I'd like to think I'm smarter now :)
quantum mechanics
class that had the most challenging material, or class that fucked me up the most?
Intro to Microeconomics
Talked about some shit on utility maximization and cost minimization and I was like wtf? I want to learn about discounted cash flow and EBITDA not some gay econ shit. Felt like a pro afterwards.
This year.
Two courses almost ended my life: "Lebesgue Integration and Fourier Series" and "Time Series Analysis". I love math and stats but some of this shit just blew my mind.
To all those saying multivariable calc, you better be glad you didn't take this shit.
game theory, econometrics
Fry: Hey, professor. What are you teaching this semester?
Professor Hubert Farnsworth: Same thing I teach every semester. The Mathematics of Quantum Neutrino Fields. I made up the title so that no student would dare take it.
Fry: Mathematics of wonton burrito meals. I'll be there!
Professor Hubert Farnsworth: Please, Fry. I don't know how to teach. I'm a professor.
Most difficult material: Econometrics or Futures & Options..........shouldn't have been as hard as it was, but the prof couldn't teach well, we were deriving the Black Scholes formula before understanding what options were.
Hardest class: American literature survey....way too much reading of boring material
microelectronic circuits. for all you econ/biz guys wishing you could go back and do hard science, stfu. this class was like getting anally raped by a tiger and then finding out that the tiger had aids.
lol, mine too. bad memories of exams in that class. didn't learn my lesson and did analog IC after that - fml.
real analysis. took this when I was a sophmore in HS, was not prepared for that shit.... got away with a B+
but it was totally worth muscling through. I got sooooo much better at math.
what the shit? math majors take that in their soph/junior years of college. you need way more than calc bc to stand a chance... how did you do it?
you took that class as a sophomore in hs? i think u r full of shit
Econometrics had brutal exams where a 36% gave me a B for the semester. Then there was International Trade ... a class that I failed and refuse to take over again.
Data structures (a comp science course) OMG, I still have nightmares about that bastard russian professor and that class!
organic chemistry
Fourth-year Chinese
Probably regret skipping the first 3 years, huh?
Regards
disclosure: I'm not Chinese, and didn't start studying Chinese until college.
There was a 7th grader in my measure theory course. And a HS senior in my real analysis course.
Also, two freshman (UG) were in a grad analysis course -- they both got an F-.
It happens.
Chaos, fractals, and dynamics. My first real applied math class and it's a real mind fuck
Mathematical Economic Theory. Fuck. That. Shit.
That's the only course that I l find worthwhile this year but that's probably because it's more applicable than my other math courses.
Hardest courses: Real Analysis, Information Theory (grad), Mathematical Statistics (crazy prof), any accounting course
Econometrics
multivariable calc
fuck that
second this. took it with the hardest prof in the department at the same time i was doing lin algebra- it was a rough semester.
i took some math classes in an engineering school when i was abroad (not an engineering major) because they were the only ones i could get approved- every application of the material was in relation to electrical or mechanical engineering. suffice it to say i barely passed.
I see overwhelmingly that econometrics was hard as shit. fml. I have to take that shit next year
Hardest, but also one of the most useful courses in economics.
I'd say it's the only useful class in economics.
I'm a math major, so the hardest class I took was probably Topology.
However, I had to take a humanities credit to fulfill the breadth requirement for my degree, so the hardest class for ME was without a doubt Greek Mythology. Shit was Greek to me.
By far the gayest class i have ever taken was money and banking (had nothing to do with banking)....concepts weren't that difficult but the clown teacher thought we were at MIT. Only kid to ever get a 100 on the final was Kyle Bass.
freshmen comp 101. bitch of a teacher too!
that shit was tough!
applied differential equations or multivariate calc. both tough.
U.S. Income Inequality 1950-2000. It was some sort of senior seminar, all micro, with a very weird structure to the class. Just brutal.
Quantum physics
Applied differential equations. Too many fucking ChemE application problems. Fucked me over hard.
Most Difficult Class - Managerial Econ - Professor was insane
Most Difficult Material - Time Series Analysis - I loved the material, but the text we were using were some PhD shit. Stuff I understood blew my mind, but things I didn't understand just gave me headaches.
Multivar Calc: C - grade.
As for econometrics, I thought that class was somewhat difficult but not crazy hard. It is interesting enough to keep you going, where as multivar calc bored me to near-death.
art history freshmen year. the amount of information on each test was absolutely insane. luckily my short term memory got me an A. the rest of the class didn't fare so well.
Close between Calc II and Econometrics. I know, I'm such a high achiever.
im pretty sure quantum mechanics is the hardest class an undergrad can take.
I have both undergraduate biz degree and hard science (chem) degree from a top non-target so I've taken the econometrics/game theories/advanced macros, etc. as well as the quantums/thermos. The tough science classes are incomparably harder than the "tough" business classes. Quantum mechanics is so conceptually difficult and mathematically intensive that it would weed out 95% of business students.
Risk Management - C
Taking Econometrics now, first test tomorrow.
For me though it was Financial Markets & Institutions. Material wasn't that bad but for some reason, the professor made it impossible, had a 50% drop rate after the first test...
Either linear algebra or philosophy of science. Took a game theory course that was hard as well because the teacher didn't like me - we had an argument over politics (he is a communist, seriously, and I a libertarian).
Organizational psychology. Nothing made sense.
econometrics, by far......
this year hardest class is computer aritechture and assembly language idk how computer engineering majors do it lol
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HARDEST CLASS THIS SEMESTER GOGOGOGOGOG
Stochastic Calculus.
Oh, and the hardest class I've ever taken was an intro to management class. The material wasn't hard, but the professor had questions like, "On page 124, in the bottom right hand corner, what was the title of the third chart?"
I shit you not. He did this because it was his goal to maintain a strict bell curve for the class and the only way he could do this is by not allowing us to get answers right. He would also word questions so that the answer bank (A,B,C,D,E) would include multiple answer like "E - All of the above" but "C" would include "A" but not "B" so when you asked him for clarification he would tell you to just guess and if you got it wrong you could come by his office hours and make a case for your answer, but when you showed up to debate your point he would just say "No, you are wrong". LOL. The class was ridiculous.
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Hardest class is computer architecture and assembly language :/
f u binary
i'm only in it for the algorithms and coding, thank god we only have to take two of those fucking classes
Calc II no doubt. Only because for me it was the class that showed what future math courses would demand.
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English literature, for a non native that shit was hell.I woke up at night in sweat thinking about Chaucer's "Canterbury Tales".I was like wtf is this shit still english??I ended up with a C while some native were failing. Business Policy. The professor would makes us read "Creating Shareholder's Value" by Rapaport and analyze (from governance style to value chain) and present one company per week.That shit was hell, we pulled all nighters every time but still could not finish it.
statistical physics (not so hard but boring to death) dynamical systems (actually not so hard but had a hard time with it) algo's an data structures (don't really know how hard it is but i left my CS major because i hated it) stochastic calculus was pretty hard too but kinda "fun".
Introductory Econometrics wasn't very hard. But i still had to review my statistics to get a hold on it. Took Quantum Physics. Didn't find it that hard. I've heard advanced (PhD level) microecon is very hard.
I feel pretty stupid doing pitchbooks and DCF's ...
[quote=kraken] dynamical systems (actually not so hard but had a hard time with it)
in econometrics right now..doesnt seem too bad.
I did not enjoy multivariate calculus. triple integrals are a pain in the ass when you fuck up a sign or something minor early in the problem and then compound on that fuck up by integrating and integrating and integrating...
An exegetical based class on Judaism.
I swear, getting more than a B+ in that class was impossible. Made economics look easy by comparison.
don't take this the wrong way, but are you jewish?
fluids mechanics in the summer...fml
Heat and Mass Transfer...FUCK THAT SHIT The class average on the final was like 30%
I took Calc 1 online in an 8 week format. The calc wasn't hard but the 120 problems that I had to do every Sunday night because I forgot was rather difficult. It's been my only C in college and I regret it every time I look at my transcript.
Moral Reasoning. The proofs in that class put even my Calc II class to shame.
This fucking class: http://student.mit.edu/catalog/search.cgi?search=14.441&style=verbatim Doctoral level Advanced Financial Economics II. I (attempted) to take it my junior year. Why I decided to enroll, I don't know. But seriously, holy shit, reading 15 papers before class and then discussing mathematical theory for 3 hours? Horrible, mind-numbing, and way above my head.
1 British Literature
2 Economic Forecasting
Advanced digital signal processing.
Diff Eq
Calc 2. Then i learned that hard classes werent for me. It was the right choice
Management 100. Only B on my dual degree transcript. FUCKKKKKK
law
Fucking intro to Art History to 1850. "Here, memorize these 400 pieces of shit art and what year they were created and by whom. Ill give you 40 in a slideshow for the final. I have tenure, fuck you."
THIS SO MUCH CHARIZARD PIKACHU
art history is useless
A lot of my friends take that class as an easy "A"...but in reality, if you have no interest in the subject matter, then the class sucks so bad
Astrophysics.
Econometrics has been hard as balls - the class started out with 80 kids and 58 of them dropped down to the less math-intensive version after a few weeks - but it's also been my favorite class at school so far. Kinda stockholm syndrome-y?
Tip #1: Never hog the fair way when she's are teeing off.
I have no idea what that's supposed to mean
Econometrics is awesome because you quickly realize that you can take anything in the world and turn it into a string of numbers and models. Isn't that the beauty of quant finance? :)
Taking Econometrics, International Trade, and Intermediate Macroecon all at the same time this semester - and I'm a senior :*(
Besides the classes I'm taking now, hardest classes - Security Analysis and Portfolio Management and Analysis of Statistical data (using STATA)
Organic Chem II
dupe
Calculus for Engineering/Physics/Math majors.
I was an arrogant frosh History major who wanted to stick it to my annoying engineer roommate who kept complaining about how hard the class was and how easy my shit was compared to his (which was totally true, but I didn't want to admit it). Signed up, realized too late that the prof failed 20% of the class every semester, and spent the next 15 weeks getting fucked in the ass. Ended up with a C+. Material itself was difficult, but the tests were totally different than anything we would do in homework or see in lecture. Average grade on a midterm was like, 30ish%.
I hated it at the time, but in retrospect, these crazy-hard tests make sense. If 90 out of 100 kids don't have a prayer of getting through them in time, the professors find out who the real geniuses are who need to be fast-tracked for grad school or crazy-ass research or something. This Jewish kid who sat next to me would finish the midterms like 45 minutes into a 3 hour exam. Got a perfect score. Unreal. Think he's getting his Physics PhD at Caltech now. Smartest guy I ever met.
Philosophy 4050 A-
meh P.S I have a tiger mom/dad.
Reaction Engineering, bane of my life.
Study a ton of content to come up against exam questions which are barely associated to what we learnt.
Econometrics. I admit the class material itself was not bad, but the instructor for the 1st semester was a Chinese guy who could not speak a proper word of English, and they expected him to try to explain applied statistical methods to us. Funniest incident in that class is the foreign student who tried to ask about heteroskedasticity, neither him nor the instructor could say the word properly.
Thankfully, we had another instructor in the 2nd semester and I was able to pull through a decent grade.
Abstract algebra. Heard the professor was horrible from every single class review site, took the class any way. On the first day, he tells the class that the textbook is written by great masters of math and is entirely self-contained, therefore he will not teach anything and expect us to read the book and understand. Instead he'll try to talk about even more abstract topics (or just ramble on about philosophy/learning foreign languages) to try to inspire us. Class went from 40 students day 1 to like 15 students after the 1st problem set. I then stupidly didn't drop the class before the drop deadline because I thought I could someone salvage it. Finally realized my errors, changed the class to pass/fail, and failed it.
I was given multiple warnings re: abstract algebra, but I found it to be one of the most interesting and easiest courses I've taken. The prof wrote the textbook so there was no need to attend lectures, giving me the required edge.
Buddhist Thought in India, They have some absolutely crazy concepts and theories, very difficult but also very interesting class, good change up from the business ones
AP Physics Mechanics as a junior without prerequisite physics classes and without calculus. In a high school course, 2 of the seven juniors dropped, who will be the schools valedictorian almost got a B, he's the only that got an A overall. An the class average of tests was anywhere from 47%-65%. That percentage includes the juniors that had taken the physics class before it and a calculus course.
Oh yeah, and I barely squeaked out a B
Spanish literature, got either an a or b, can't remember. If the prof wasn't my favorite in the department I would've dropped it. Imagine Faulkner, twain, or Hemingway symbolism and literary devices in another language, brutal
I absolutely rocked Spanish literature! I probably should have been an English lit major to be fair.
If I only knew you years ago
Interior design. Little did I know, this was a major weed out class for art majors. My god, I've never put in so many hours. Ever.
Wasn't even remotely related to my major, which I only took because of the guy:girl ratio.
I have one semester left that I'll be doing in like a year. I have to take 2 finance classes and 4 electives. I'm gonna take the dumbest shit ever and mac on freshmen.
My normal guidance counselor chick got pregs and the dude who replaced her is this Asian Trekkie dude who was in the Army. Total bro. We bullshitted about nerd shit for 20 minutes and then he's like, 'Okay listen dude, I'm gonna write down some classes where you can not show up and get an A on this piece of paper for you.'
Algebraic Number Theory: Class Field Theory
One of my majors is a hard science, but the most difficult class I've ever taken was Intro to Art. I registered for it intending for it to be my easy class for the semester when I was going to take organic chem, two math classes and physics. Little did I know that it was going to be the most frustrating class I had ever taken.
In my Intro to Art class, in one semester I had probably colored and cut more shit than an entire class of first graders would have in a full school year. Most weeks we had two projects due, some of them were interesting but most of them were mind numbing time sinks. One project involved cutting and pasting 800 1x1 inch colored squares on ten pages in order to make different gradients! And unlike those bastard first graders, we were actually graded harshly on the precise symmetry and size of our cut outs. It was painful when I couldn't go out with friends at times because I was relegated to child's work. The most infuriating part--I ended up with a B.
@ redrocksky. RIIIIIGHT?!?!
I know this all too well. I thought an art class would be a blowoff class that got me laid. Posted mine on page 2.
Lots of hot girls in my class too, most of them were sorority girls that were taking it with other members of their chapters. They all breezed through it, though. They were already pro's at whatever we did in there to begin with because among a limited set other things, all they did in their free time was art & craft anyway. Unsurprisingly, all of them enjoyed the course.
The one with the most attractive females.
I took a philosophy course that was entirely graded on its 3-hour discussions. Factor in the notorious curve for the class, and there was a ridiculous amount of pressure to sound "smart," especially with the professor who could easily ascertain when you were just BSing.
Its interesting to see that many people find the stuff associated with linear algebra i.e fourier and lebesgue stuff the toughest
Graduate level game theory. It's difficult to see how complex it can get, just looking at the undergraduate treatment. Never before has it been so impossible to prepare for an exam.
The pure maths part of my graduate degree I found relatively easy.
So far special relativity - but I've only finished freshman year, I'm sure it'll get harder. Class average was around a 45%
Market Microstructure & Electronic Trading with some ex LTCM trader
Got blackout drunk on the fifth class and spent half an hour arguing with the guy. Someone recorded it and showed it to me later. lulz were had. Dropped all my classes that semester and went to Brazil.
All upper level econ classes blew...as mentioned earlier econometrics and internatinal trade were horrendous. I got a C+ in econometrics
Wtf is stata
calc 2 by far
STATA and EViews
Ugh..
Prof. Lee, my muse for life - a man who dances to Gangham Style during exams - taught me that.
Word...
I'd say Econ professors are some wacky character but man they are brilliant as hell..
EViews? Matlab dude.
I never had to work as hard as I did for my 20th Century European History course I took last semester. Not necessarily because the material was hard, but there were only 8 of us in the course and the lecture style was more round table discussion than sit and take notes. Our professor was good at catching people who weren't up to date with the reading (went through 10 books for that class) or didn't have strong conviction with what they were saying and would try to poke holes in everything.
I had a love-hate relationship with that professor. He was great because he pushed everyone really hard and did a good job of opening our minds to different angles of events in that time period, but at the same time he was really stubborn - PhD, and was one of the top funded researchers at my Uni, so he had a mentality of "I'm right you're wrong" with certain things.
I ended up with a B in the course because I got a C on our final research paper which we had all semester to work on and was due the last day of class. When I got the e-mail with the grade/comments he said the material/thesis was good, but he can't give papers with even a single grammar mistake a grade higher than a C.
But that's what I get for taking a senior level history class as a sophomore.
Organic Chemistry, got an A- in it because I sucked ass at the weekly 4 hour labs...
@"Stryfe" What would a historian even need much funding for?
Research expenses.
Yeah, but it's not like they're scientists. Aren't their only expenses books and travel?
Speaking of which, isn't it bonkers how starved for funding so many scientists are? Like, we could be moving humanity ahead at a much faster rate if we pumped more dough into science. Don't you guys think that's a market inefficiency?
At my school most grants are
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