What was the biggest Poker/Black Jack gain/loss you've witnessed?

I was at a Poker table in Monaco 2-3 years ago. Some guy lost $60 fucking million. He calmly got up, smiled and said: ''Ok. I'll be back tomorrow :)''. And left.

When I hear stories of people ''fighting'' to have a $5k salary increase, while other are blowing $60 mil playing Poker, something is really wrong.

 

As someone who has played poker for the last 10 years, and followed poker before that, I have a lot of trouble believing your statement.

  1. You were at a table playing stakes that warrant sitting down with $60 million?
  2. That is so absurdly above any loss reported in any form of poker news I follow, which covers that vast majority of games one way or another (and I am referring to poker forums, twitter accounts, poker pro's and famous players blogs, etc.)
  3. You just list him as "some guy", as opposed to a well known billionaire or pro player staked out the asshole

The largest pot I think I ever even heard of is like $10 million US in Macau, which means the most a player lost is

 
jankynoname:
but i agree that $60 bucks sounds pretty ridic.

It is. Thus the reason for this thread. I know plenty of people who make 5-6 mil a night playing cards. Hell, even UFC's president Dana White is ALWAYS playing Black Jack in Vegas late at night. Dude made and lost millions.

 

yeah i'm not saying it's impossible, but I can tell you that there are no pros that are playing anywhere near that big. It is possible this was a table just with some ultra-wealthy Monaco old money splashing around, but when you hear the stories from guys like Tom Dwan, Ivey, Timex or Sauce, they are playing rich billionaires for a few $mil in a sesh at most.

Is it possible you were watching a table with tournament chips? Certainly you can get lots of $60mm swings at late stages of high roller tourneys. But those obviously don't represent actual dollaz.

 

gambling is for excitement, poker is different. i love poker, it allows me to evaluate my decision making skills, and mind set. My game 2 years ago, vs my game now is drastically different. So is as my personality. =D

 
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Back in the mid to late 90's I was in REPE out of college when the Japanese still had some swag in the US real estate market and Vegas was the only real gambling option in the world (James Bond may have gambled in Monaco and Macau was still a shit stain Portuguese colony). We had some Japanese investors who would roll through Vegas and would regularly lose or win millions in a weekend, but I never saw anything close to a hand like that even adjusted for inflation. I got to go a few times with the senior guys and the weekends were amusing to say the least, but no where near those sized hands.

In more recent years I've done a decent amount of business in HK, Shenzen and Macau and while one crazy billionaire would put a large amount of money down pretty much to show off in Macau, his real weakness was Maotai and women so the gambling went away pretty quickly. Moral of the story, screw gambling if you like comfort women and booze (that tastes like gym socks if you're from the West) and hang out with Chinese billionaires because you'll get loaded and can pick from dozens of prostitutes that can actually be yours forever and no one can touch. Not my bag, but a couple of my colleagues had "kept" women for no charge.

 

To clarify, it wasn't $60 mil on a single hand. He came to play with 60 and left with 0. More importantly, it didn't phase him out.

Also, the type of wealth that is out there is ridiculous. The Forbes Billionaire's list is a farce. There are a lot more billionaires (real ones) out there. A lot.

 
sla-slom:

To clarify, it wasn't $60 mil on a single hand. He came to play with 60 and left with 0. More importantly, it didn't phase him out.

Also, the type of wealth that is out there is ridiculous. The Forbes Billionaire's list is a farce. There are a lot more billionaires (real ones) out there. A lot.

I'm sure there are plenty more billionaires than Forbes identifies, but your story is still ludicrous. What were you sitting at the table with? What was the blind structure/variation of poker? The largest game I saw live in Vegas was heads-up between Dan Bilzerian and Ryan Reiss (private room, but heavily discussed/reported at Bellagio). I believe Ryan won about 3.5 million in that session

Again, your story sounds like BS

 

Even at the peak of the games at Macau that would be a very big stretch (at least for one session). Hell, even the infamous Andy Beal vs. The Corporation didn't get to the level of 60M.

For myself I have won around $48,000 in a 24 hour session but have had a losing session of $9,000. Blackjack I have never played high stakes, just some $10-$25 pounding drinks with friends.

Obviously wasn't in the game but recall seeing Sammy Farha having over 1M on the table in a game at The Bellagio. Numerous other players had over 1M on the table. Word was Gus Hansen was up 1M, then went stuck 1M. Crazy mofo never understood his style only worked for a short stretch.

I have seen some sick losing sessions of TJ Cloutier at the craps table.

Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
 

This story is bullshit, someone who is playing blakjack at those stakes has a table to himself in a private room. Not some place where some kid can drool on the table at.

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heister:

This story is bullshit, someone who is playing blakjack at those stakes has a table to himself in a private room. Not some place where some kid can drool on the table at.

it was Poker and it was in Monaco.

 

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