What Watches do You Wear?
Need to get a watch, but from all that I've seen, none fancies my eye. What do you you guys wear on a daily basis?
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Invicta - great swiss quality for a medium level price. Timex - for sport look
Omega
Rolex Datejust (simple, no diamonds or yellow gold or anything flashy). Fluted bezel, and silver on black tuxedo face.
Invicta is junk
I second that. Invicta just plain sucks.
Buy yourself a simple Seiko (or other inexpensive, respected brand) automatic while you research buying a fancy/expensive one. Your tastes may change a bit after a couple of weeks on Watchuseek, so I wouldn't jump right in by buying anything that costs more than a couple hundred dollars. What style of watch are you interested in? Dress/dive/etc.?
(My Seiko 007 still gets more day to day wear than any of my fancier watches.)
This. Seiko has respectable automatics for $200-500+. Check out: http://www.seiyajapan.com/collections/seiko
No invictas - junk.
If you don't mind waiting (delivery, available online), there's a German watch brand that makes automatics/manual watches at decent prices (as in $700-1000+). Check out Stowa: https://www.stowa.de/
OP - what's your budget? When you get into the thousands, there are many tiers of the kinds of watches you can get and it's difficult to give advice on watches unless you have a price range in mind...
If you do plan on getting a nicer watch, there are a lot of things to consider. But one general rule is try and avoid quartz and go for the mechanical (as in automatics, or those requiring winding but no battery). One for the resale value (quartz drops by a lot the second you buy it) and two for the complication of the watch (if you're going to buy a very nice watch, you want the craftsmanship to factor in for the price you pay, not something that just runs on a battery and is not to different from a watch you can get for $100).
I'm not a watch guy, but the Seiko Cocktail actually looks quite elegant, and affordable. Doubt you can get that in a NY store though...
I really like the Stowa Chronograph. Does anyone here own a Stowa and can provide some feedback?
Also, are Stowa's sold anywhere in the NY area?
Rolex Oyster?
I have a classic looking Swatch that I get more compliments on than a watch that costs 200x as much.
yacht master
Casio
Submariner on a NATO band.
I like Baume & Mercier for a classic, understated swiss watch
I second that. I also am starting to like Jaeger too,.
Bell and Ross Vintage 123 Officer - it's got a great, reliable ETA automatic movement, looks sharp, moderately priced (
Citizen; Model AR3020-02E
What does anyone think of Tissot (black leather bank) or Victorinox swiss army white dial?
Tag Heuer Carrera Calibre 16
Working on getting either a IWC Portuguese or Rolex Submariner
IWC Portuguese for 38K and change? Is it really worth it?
There is many models of the IWC Portuguese. It is a family of watches. I would get the Portuguese Chronograph most likely which is significantly less. The automatic one is even cheaper. Yeah, if you get a perpetual calendar it's $38k...
I'm not an IWC fan personally but they are pretty amazing pieces of craftsmanship.
Why do people don't like Invicta? Mine has been working great so far.
Invicta comes off as cheesy.
x
I alternate between a JLC Reverso (simple steel model, wish I could afford the duo face) and a Swatch New Gent.
Have a look at some dedicated watch forums like watchuseek to get a quick overview of nice watches. I wouldn't classify Invicta as junk, but I do think that money spent for a non-traditional watch between a Seiko Automatic and an Omega is somewhat wasted. Quality-wise you don't really get 'more' compared to the Seiko but pay quite a premium for some fugazi marketing watch stories.
Some watch snobs even set the bar higher than Omega (at speaking for the ones with no in-house movement), but I think that's really a bit too far away from reality.
I like the Rolex Oyster Perpetual with a bluish tint to the dial. I've seen it at Mayors.
But how much does it cost lolz
Sidenote: Baume and Mercier Clifton with a leather band is selling for 2700 bucks.
Bought an Omega Seamaster (Planet Ocean) a few years ago and love it. Versatilty with stainless steel and rubber straps is a nice bonus.
bulova 21 jewels
datejust white roman dial on jubilee band. very classy and not over the top expensive. omega depreciates too quickly
I will go with Titans. I think it is the best clock i have ever used. I hope you will love it.
How are Eterna watches? Also, are Eterna watches sold in the US (particularly nyc), or do you have get them online/internationally? Eterna Soleure looks pretty nice.
I like Citizen
Rolex Datejust Perpetual Citizen Seiko
Citizen, Tissot, Breitling decent.
Breitling
Omega Speedmaster 3570.50.00
Incredible lineage and great talking piece with co-workers and clients, as well as just looking awesome. I also like the manual winding, something about the ritual in the morning of winding my watch appeals to me.
WhoJustJoined, this was a great baller response.
That gets old quick. One of my first watches was a speedmaster auto chrono although self winding can be a pain if you wear multiple watches on a weekly basis. Big fan of B&M at the 3-6k price range.
[IMG] http://www.conranshop.co.uk/conrancatalog/product/xlarge/global/images/… [/IMGE]
Classic timepiece if you don't want to drop 2k.
Looks like a Mickey Mouse watch. Stowa would be a better cheap alternative.
+1 for Stowa.
Another German brand a bit cheaper than Stowa to check out is Archimede (http://www.archimede-watches.com/) they have some nice looking pilot watches.
A bit higher up price wise to Stowa is Nomos. Or there's Sinn.
And Frederique Constant - which, for their higher tiered models, uses in-house movement and are really good value for the quality you're getting. I think you can get a FC for the low/mid $1000, but something like mid $2K-$3K can get you this: http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/2012/6/5/hands-on-with-the-excellent-frede…
For the same kind of thing with a more established brand you're probably going to need to pay 2-3x at least.
Anyone know if you can buy Stowa watches in new york?
None presently. Saving for a Tag Heuer Aquaracer. Mmm, gorgeous.
I like Raymond Weil and Bulova watches too.
Thanks for your feedback guys. I have decided on the DW watch. It was the only one I could find with a simple style, and relatively low price tag.
http://i.imgur.com/kYIbzAJ.png
I love Fastrak watches but also ware Timex.
Has anyone ever bought a vintage watch? What are some key things to look out for if doing so?
Would love to buy a vintage watch someday. But have yet to do so because I don't think I have enough experience to know whether I'm getting a good deal or not (and also just personal worries about getting a "frankenwatch" - a watch that doesn't have all its original intended parts).
But WatchSnob has a pretty good how to buy vintage guide: http://ca.askmen.com/fashion/trends_200/202_fashion_men.html
As usual - you always buy the seller. Talk a lot about the watch with him. If something sounds fishy, stay away. If the price seems to be to good to be true, stay away. Ask when the last service was performed, and ask for the receipt. (Get to) Know a good and affordable watch maker nearby. Always let him inspect the watch after you bought it. If possible, arrange the hand over locally in the workshop.
Just wear what you like to be honest. The watch brand/quality topic gets discussed ad nausem on WUS and TZ but the answer is generally the same. If you like Invicta, wear Invicta(I pesonally wouldn't wear it but whatever) since the reality is most people have absolutely no freaking clue about watches and think buying a big name brand means quality when in reality they are buying some repackaged ETA movement you can find in a $500 Hamilton(Hamilton are fine watches btw). E.g. people have been suggesting Archimede but left out the best part about them: They make their own casing in house and as such, tend to hold value more on the secondary market.
But to answer the OP's original question I have 5 I rotate.
Tourby Guilloché Archimede Klassik Chrono Maurice Lacroix Pantos Chrono Louis Erard Orient Star
What do you do kwgood80?
Sorry, I'm not on here much anymore since I'm an old fart now. I work in audit.
I have a luminox series 3050. I also have a steel rolex, it was my dad's. As an intern do you think it is ok to wear the rolex?
If it's a steel one then it's probably low key enough to wear. I doubt anyone will really call you on it unless it really stands out like a sub or daytona, but honestly, would you really want to wear it and possibly bang it up on a desk or whatever?
I don't think there's any upside to wearing a rolex during the internship, and again I doubt anyone will care, but if you happen to get some finicky guys in your team who are just looking for reasons to hate on people, then you could be 'that intern with better watches than some of his seniors'
Anyone know how Steinhart watches are? Are they reputable? Looks like they're a German/Swiss watchmaker and have some watches that are quite elegant and not super expensive. For example, if I compare the Steinhart Marine Chronometer, it is like half the cost of a Stowa Marine Roman but looks exactly the same.
Your money is best spent elsewhere to be honest.
For my everyday watch, I have a steel band Breitling Navitimer that goes well with just about anything, jeans or a suit. Wifey got me a Royal Oak as an engagement gift but I've found that to be pretty excessive and only wear it on special occasions now.
Another of my favorites is an IWC, totally underrated line of watches, and I think relatively affordable for how nice they are. I think Omegas are really tacky - there's nothing cheesier than that 007 second hand on the Speedmaster, I think they take that affiliation way too far and it just becomes a deterrent. Also check out Glashutte or Breguet.
I think for a younger guy just graduating or something I'd probably go with a Tag or the aforementioned IWC... something respectable but affordable and a good stepping stone to the higher-end watches... at least you'll figure out if you actually like having and taking care of a "nice watch" before you go out and spend a fortune on something you hate.
Seconded on IWC. But I think Omegas - the ones not having 007 or olympics references - like your standard Speedmaster can be nice. Or something vintage like this: http://www.fototime.com/F155BD999D6197A/orig.jpg
Also love Glashutte Original. If I decide to splurge on another nice watch, it will probably be GO or a JLC.
What kind of Royal Oak do you have?
I have a 15202, it's the one that's basically a modern version of the oldschool Jumbo. It's a really nice piece and all, and it's not a very gaudy watch so it doesn't really have that "I'm a dick for wearing this watch" feeling attached to it, but watch people will still be able to appreciate it. It's not to different than my Breitling really, and goes with jeans just as well as it goes with a suit. That's all I really need in a watch, would definitely not have spent my own money on this thing given the price tag, but I do love it.
What about a Tissot?
http://www.tourneau.com/shop/price/500-250#pdpSeoKey!shop_price_500-250…
Any particular suggestions then in that style? I think I do like the Stowa Marine Roman, it looks elegant. I'm looking for a dressy kind of watch (not sporty), one thats meant for a leather strap.
I'm not familiar w/ Stowa so don't know what they go for or your price range, but I have one of these and like it a lot.
http://www.prestigetime.com/items.php?brand=30&series=28,1344,1346,718&…
The Classima Executives series looks decent, will look more into them...in the realm of what I'm looking for.
Keep the suggestions coming folks.
I guess it just depends. I love my watches, I'm a purist, and have slightly different things I look for because it's also a hobby for me and I do a fair amount of trading on the secondary watch market. This being said if you want something you're not going to see many people with(if any) have check out:
http://www.tourbywatches.com/shop/article_72/Marine-Silver-B3c---Decora…
Sure they are a little pricier than a Steinhart but they are awesome and it's the style you want not to mention you can pretty much customize the watch.
Thanks...how would you compare say the Tourby Marine to the Stowa Marine or some of the others mentioned (Baume & Mercier, Frederique Constant)? Or something even further down the price spectrum like Tissot Le Locle? Sorry I don't know much about watches...to me these all look like they fall into the same "genre", that being of an elegant dressy watch with leather strap, but maybe that's not the right way to look at it?
For every day wear I have a blue - faced Tag Aquaracer and... a Casio G - Shock.
I have a Baume and Mercier leather band watch that I really like. Pretty simple and understated. Been looking at a few IWC watches, but haven't pulled the trigger.
Where else but WSO is an IWC watch considered entry level? What's the cheapest IWC available? $5,000?
I love this site.
Well, entry level might have been used in a different context. But the 'entry level' IWC that I saw when I was looking at the brand a few yrs ago, I think the cheapest was like $3000-ish. It was in HK, and it was a very simple Portofino (not the chrono version, something that looked like this but maybe not quite it: http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://styleforum-testing.s3.amazona…)
...But I think in the last few yrs IWC refreshed its Portofino line, so things are more expensive. So my guess is the cheapest IWC anything (new) is in the $4000 range.
Lol, was thinking the exact same thing. Reminds me of a few years ago when I started out and seeing some 1st years spending their entire sign-on bonus on one watch...classic.
This is true. Nowhere else would 5K be so easily dropped on a table!
Dang, you guys got some nice watches on. I wear a Bulova, basically a fake nice watch.
That's what I said! I thought of getting a Victorinox Swiss Army stainless. white dial. ~42 mm.
How about this watch? Rue du Rhone... http://www.tourneau.com/catalog/search.cmd?form_state=searchForm&keywor…
I'm starting to like Victorinox stainless with a white dial. ~650
Victorinox:
http://www.tourneau.com/shop/price/1000-500/rvids/4651#pdpSeoKey!shop_p…
got a rolie that dont tic tock
Patek Philippe 5196 Calatrava Patek Philippe 5270 Perpetual Calendar Rolex Submariner 16610
Timex
I've had a sterling Omega Seamaster for 19 years and it still looks like the day I bought it and holds its style. Not too flashy. Highly recommend.
Breitling for Bentley Motors
Wearing a $20 Casio with $350 To Boot NY balmorals today. long hair don't care
Daniel Wellington is my go-to
Looks like a huge variety of watches in this thread.
I wear: Rolex Sub IWC Pilot GP vintage 45
Mostly wear my Sub as it's the most versatile
@aleeboy: some would say what do you do and how do you do it?
@"TraderDaily", I work in consulting for the banking sector.
I like watches
Explorer II with red GMT swatch
Looking to get a Pepsi Sub at some point.
I'm not big into the flashy watches and I don't really like complicated patterns and shit like that. I have a Breitling super ocean. It's my first real watch. It's a few grand but nothing crazy. Definitely recommend it.
Not a big watch person but what are people's thoughts spending ~1,400 on a Hamilton Jazzmaster:
http://www.arnotts.ie/images/BrandPages/hamilton/brand-banner-hamilton…
Poor man's Portuguese. Check out Stowa 1938 Chrono. Similar tri-pax layout with a nicer movement.
Lol invicta... You got to be kidding me. Complete junk. I wear a Hublot.
Panerai Luminor
Glashutte PanoMaticLunar, Blancpain Bathyscape or JLC Reverso Duo. Amazing watches that offer great value, particularly the GO and JLC
Ah, finally, someone with some nice taste in watches (to everyone else - I'm kidding, there are definitely some nice watches mentioned on this thread). Love the Glashutte and surprised more people don't know about them. Big fan of Blancpain, but more expensive than the GO. JLC I like their master ultra thing moon (master line in general).
As for mswoonc: I agree with you that Invicta's are junk, but to be honest, for most watch enthusiasts so are Hublots.
@theATL What's your take on the JLC Reverso Duo? I think it's a pretty cool watch.
Also, keep an eye for Zenith's with El Primero movement, particularly the 36,000 VPH and the Captain Winsor. Some great value here as well.
Do you monkeys think it would be acceptable to wear smart watches to work when these come out? The moto 360 looks pretty conservative:
https://moto360.motorola.com/
That looks awesome
Silve Breitling Navitimer or Gold Rolex Pres Day-Date depending on the occasion. Can't go wrong with either.
You can get an amazing watch for the $$ of that overpriced rolex.
Rolexes are junk
I would wear an Omega if I could reasonably afford one or not feel guilty about it. Otherwise I have a Seiko diver, Tissot dress chronograph, and an Orient dress watch. I feel I have every situation covered with those. All solid watches too.
I have a Seiko that retails at about $200. I feel it's fitting for an intern. Are there any better watches around the same price, that you would recommend I add to my collection to mix it up? I'm new to the watch game and hope to someday afford the nice watches many of you have mentioned.
@barcelonafan8 I have a michael kors rose gold bradshaw (blue dial with a gold that has a reddish hue), I really like that. It comes in more standard colors as well. They cost $250.
I wear Hamilton Khaki King Automatic ~ $500. They are the best on quality vs. price scale btw
When I make > $10k a month then I'll consider bying more pricy watches like Panerai or Bell&Ross but for now I just do not feel I need to spend so much on it.
Though I should say that I really like wearing 'normal' watches (not 'smart' or smth like that).
BR, Mark
Any recommendations for a diving watch (for actual diving)
For actual serious diving get a dive computer. There are a number of cheap ones in your price range. Not a huge dive watch (sub-ish) guy but I would look at Orient at that price.
I've got Orient. They perfectly fit suits or jeans with shirts or T-shirts http://www.clockshop.ru/obj/img/reviews/orient-new/Orient_alarm_chrono…
The Brooks Brothers watches that have the removable straps are nice. Matching them up to your tie looks pretty sharp in my opinion.
Most days I wear a Fossil. The one that I have is stylish, but not as flashy as a lot of their models are. In my opinion, Fossil is a cut above Timex or Casio, while still being affordable (less than $100 if you're doing it right). However, if you can afford to wear a higher-end watch than this, then go for it. An Omega seems like it would practical.
PAM177 Omega Seamaster AT RO Timex
What do you guys think of the Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean? The new one with the caliber 8500 movement to be exact. Definitely the staple dive-watch in my opinion, outside of the sub of course.
whats the deal with Invicta listing watches at $500 AND selling them for $45 all year round?
$1xx Fossil watch I got for my 20th birthday. Anything more expensive would probably look douchey since I'm going to be interning
Michael Kors because I'm Basic.
Tag Formula one- Silver with a black face. Conservative, but still good looking, and you can wear it with anything
IWC Portofino Handwound Eight Day, black dial in stainless
www.iwc.com/en/collection/portofino/IW5101/
GMT 2 or bust! Just kidding, also own lots of Seikos and Orients (afaik subsidiary of Seiko), want to purchase a Speedie soon (just classy)
Can anyone recommend a reputable place to get a vintage Omega Seamaster?
TimeZone Sales Corner
http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=6969090&rid=0 http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=6968978&rid=0 http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=6954308&rid=0
Chrono24 is another good place.
Antoine de Macedo in Paris http://adm-horloger.com/montres-de-collection?___store=eng&___from_stor…
Nomos Club
http://www.nomos-store.com/en/Watches/Model-series/Club/?smxCountry=ca&…
Fantastic starting watch for the starting analyst. Stainless steel hand wound with a power reserve of roughly 40 hours. Its a beautiful everyday watch that goes well due to its brown cordovan leather strap. Highly recommend it if you want to spend under 2k on a mechanical watch with an in house movement from up and coming brand from Glashutte, Germany
Nomos Club
http://www.nomos-store.com/en/Watches/Model-series/Club/?smxCountry=ca&…
Fantastic starting watch for the starting analyst. Stainless steel hand wound with a power reserve of roughly 40 hours. Its a beautiful everyday watch that goes well due to its brown cordovan leather strap. Highly recommend it if you want to spend under 2k on a mechanical watch with an in house movement from up and coming brand from Glashutte, Germany
Those look pretty good! ^
Omega Speedmaster, 1967 pre moon
Probably the best one yet. To work I usually wear my 1675.
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Tag Heuer Aquaracer and a Luminox 6400
i like casio watches
What about a Garmin? I usually wear mine throughout the day (either Garmin Swim or 620) and get a lot of comments about running, swimming, triathlon, etc. It's less professional looking, but a conversation starter with similar types. Any thoughts?
I have watches in different ranges:
$1000-$1500: TAG Heuer (WAI111C.BA0869) and Rado Integral Black Ceramic and PVD Bracelet (R20851162)
$500-$1000: Burberry Chronograph Gunmetal BU9381
$300: Porsamo Bleu Grand Prix G 082AGPS
$100: Guess
$50: Unlisted (the brand, from Walmart lol)
$2: no name. Acquired from pirate's markets outside of the country while on a fun vacation
A few:
Panerai PAM 48 IWC Portofino Chronograph Rolex Datejust 16014 Girard-Perregaux Richeville
tissot le locle
http://grumpyguyinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/P5310727.jpg
I have 2 main watches I use::
IWC Mark XVi Pilot Breitling Colt II Automatic
Really need to get a watch with a white face/brown strap cause the ones I have are both black face.
TISSOT white face, brown strap. Simple and Elegant. can never go wrong ! around $300
Longines - La grande classique. Automatic, black leather (L4.708.4.11.2). Looks very classy, discrete, and you can see the mechanism from the back which is nice
Just picked up a Movado Museum (black face, black leather band) on sale at Amazon. Came in today, very sleek, goes great with just about anything. Looking to add a few more to my collection, great thread
I have the same watch - my dad got it as a gift and never wore it, so he gave it to me. Love it. Movado makes solid watches.
Omega speedmaster "dark side of the moon" a classic sporty watch
Nixon, Facet, black
The Patek Philippe Nautilus is a great watch that looks both sport and elegant, so it is a piece that you can wear anywhere at anytime. I think the blue dial looks the best.
I have a longines heritage 1954. really enjoy it
Realized I double posted. Prob gonna look into some Tag Heuer's this weekend
Tag Heuer Carrera is my main one, nothing flashy. I also have a nice looking Burberry watch I enjoy, but it is very, very simple, no gaudy ass logo strap. I typically don't wear any other watches to work. I keep some pieces like a solo Cartier tank away from the office. Speaks too loudly for consulting, especially with clients.
I found being subtle with simple watch designs that are clean and conservative are best.
I'm an accountant. Nixon monopoly. I like spending my money on cars.
Buy yourselves a Rolex or Bvlgari, you cheap *****. We're bankers for Christ sake.
A fairly basic Timex with a brown leather band. It looks nice and was inexpensive. Plus, it still works after briefly being dunked with me into a river while fly fishing.
IWC Aquatimer Automatic
I prefer the classic style automatic movement and a thin profile - nothing big or gaudy. Go-tos are Raymond Weil, Tag, Maurice Lacroix, Baume et Mercier. For lower end, Bulova. For higher end, Omega/Breitling.
I have a Versace watch I've had for about 10 years now that I am quite keen on.
Got this bad boy in rose gold. I dont wear it too often, and its not a name brand that someone would get excited about, but boy it looks niice
http://www.amazon.com/Akribos-XXIV-AK525RG-Stainless-Mechanical/dp/B00A…
Ceramic Rolex GMT Master II
I also have a Breitling Chrono Cockpit but I have not worn it much since I bought the GMT.
I swear by Seikos
How about Victorinox Swiss army?
Fantastic starting watch for the starting analyst. Stainless steel hand wound with a power reserve of roughly 40 hours. Its a beautiful everyday watch that goes well due to its brown cordovan leather strap.
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