Which Excel Courses are the best?

I am looking at breaking into investment banking and want to become a "rock star" at Excel. What are some recommendations in terms of the best training programs related to Excel. There are tons of videos on YouTube and different online courses, but which ones are going to give me the best bang for my buck?

as far as the udemy TTS course is concerned- the problem with it is that they don't let you download the financial modeling book and the M&A book + they also don't provide some of the excel sheets- like the trade comps and acquisition comps excels. but still, i wud say @ $10, $19 or even $ 29, they are worth going for. Apart from that, I wud suggest a few more resources that I find helpful-

  1. Financial Modeling by Simon Benninga
  2. Investment Banking book by Rosenbaum
  3. Try the website- Macabacus
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I would pay for one of the commercial Excel training courses. Either WSO's or from M&I (BIWS). I personally took the BIWS Excel training course and felt it gave me all the necessary skills in Excel to have confidence in my abilities in the program and to do whatever was practically required.

The way I see it, you are doing an intership at a BB, if you invest money in the right type of training you'll probably do better in Excel, but also feel more confident, which is important. I think the excel training courses that are specifically targeted toward IB are good because the trainers go over what you would be really doing in Excel in the workplace and the rationale behind it. Your BB SA is a great chance, so take the most efficient preparation you can.

For disclosure, I'm not a full-time analyst, I am completing an internship at a boutique.

 
ssmaclac:
Is the BIWS program you are referring to the "Excel and Financial Modeling Fundamentals" ($197)?

The course you are referring to is a bundle that Brian offers for a discounted price. If includes strictly excel courses as well as a lot of different financial statement, merger, lbo, and valuation models. That is what I purchased and highly recommend.

 

I am interested in the advanced course, but I do not have the ability to PM due to my low post count. Could you message the login details to me? Thanks!

 

I've worked in fixed income funds management, equity research and structured finance/private equity. I might have had to write a macro maybe a couple of times during my career.

Definitely not that important in the scheme of things if you are in a role where you are doing some sort of fundamentals analysis i.e. building operating, merger, lbo models, doing DCFs. I think the importance of VBA is overstated.

Only use I have of VBA is to help me get around circular references when sizing debt facilities, which financiers do not like to see when you are applying for a loan.

Spend your time on other things besides becoming excel jockeys.

 

I would appreciate it if you would send me the access code, please and thank you.

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Do a search for "excel function" on this website, there are a couple of threads on people's favorite/most useful functions. That should give you a good sense for common functions people in banking use. Also, ask someone you know for a couple of their old models and you can see what functions they're using. That being said, 95% of what i learned in excel i learned because I realized something was going to take me way too long to do, and i had to google a better way to do it.

 

I am at a F500 tech company, think Apple, Amazon, Google, Facebook and the Financial Analysts that get ahead are the ones with programming skills VBA, SQL, and automation knowledge in general.

 
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I am at a F500 tech company, think Apple, Amazon, Google, Facebook and the Financial Analysts that get ahead are the ones with programming skills VBA, SQL, and automation knowledge in general.

I too will now be going to a tech F500 company, similar to those you mentioned, and I had no idea that VBA, SQL, and automation knowledge was going to be a key skill. Where could I learn more about these to warm up and head in with some prior experience/knowledge?

 

It varies from company to company, but at my previous F50 I don't believe anyone on the finance teams was particularly adept at VBA or any programming languages. We outsourced any programming work offshore. Knowing VBA will definitely give you a leg up on the competition, but I wouldn't say it is a requirement anywhere. Having a fluent knowledge of VBA or SQL will accelerate your career at the analyst/senior analyst level, but those skills become less and less relevant as you climb the corporate ladder.

 

exactly . This skillset is definitely not required but if you want a leg up on competition in terms of efficiency and producing data quickly people will take notice quickly I would recommend start recording macros and learning how the macros work. Basic SQL is very easy to learn. I recommend buying a book on sql and vba. Kingtut is accurate though as this will help accelerate your career a the analyst/senior analyst level. It would hurt to have at the manager level as well.

 

You don't need to spend money on an excel modeling prep course if you are going to be working in Corp Fin at a large corporation. You simply need to familiarize yourself with excel. You will learn on the job and the progression at the junior level is not an easy thing to accelerate no matter how adept you are with excel. It is much seniority based than merit based. This isn't to say that if you perform well that you won't be able to get promoted a bit quicker, but realistically, your analytical ability, and ability to play politics (finding advocates to support your progression) will have just as much to do with your trajectory as your work. At the end of the day, you aren't going to be making very many decisions at that level (your role will be a function of analytics and presentation of data). Essentially, feel free to invest in a self study program if you want to learn modeling with the intention of moving to a role where that skill set will be utilized more, but you will pick up what you need to pick up on the job.

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I'm a pretty naive undergrad so I wouldn't know where to start. Wouldn't paying a few hundred for a course be worth it when it comes to ib recruiting? Or do recruiters look at you like a loser for doing this type of stuff on your free time?

 

TTS is an excellent program and will teach you all the excel you ever need to know. After a few days of practice the mouse really becomes a tool that slows you down (especially when formatting)... It is well worth it to ignore your mouse when modeling.

I think the key to becoming a good modeler is exposure. Taking a single course won't make you a pro overnight. However, if you struggle with it on your own for a few weeks, learn the concepts, then take a course, you'll be golden. Modeling is truly something that you really just need to practice and develop an understanding for before you can get it to work.

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Is there a good spot to find a list of shortcuts?

I'm in the 3rd week of my internship and I'm still mousing pretty hard (not i-banking though, so not as much modeling needed in the first place).

Or has this list been posted elsewhere already...I'll start searching.

 

I don't think you need to take a course on excel. You'll figure out the functions you need and how to not use the mouse in a short period of time. Modeling, on the other hand, is something you need to go out and get, basically. You have to try to get as much exposure as possible to it and practice until you become really good at it.

 

I agree with Anon3333, you need skills in modeling, not skills in excel. The excel skills will come, but can you actually find the info to put into the model? Do you know where to start building the model.

I went through a course with IBI (investment banking institute). It's about $2500, but I thought it was worth every penny. You should have some basic finance and accounting knowledge before hand to get the most out of it. It is pure IB training: valuations, spreading comps, DCF, precedent transactions, LBO and quick and dirty M&A modeling. It was taught by a VP (just resigned) who gave lots of anecdotes about the life.

 

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