Which foreign language: French, German, or Russian
I'm having an extremely difficult time coming to a decision on which language to learn between French, German, and Russian. Here's my reasoning so far, please add any advice or experiences with the languages if you have any. Also, I should add that I'm looking at a timeline of 2-3 years to become fluent, and I already have a some knowledge of French. While I'm taking each country's culture into the equation, I really believe I'd be interested in all three, so I'm trying to look at this through a economic/ business perspective.
While French is widely spoken and sounds nice, I've heard that French might not be too beneficial from a business perspective. I've also heard France isn't that big of a market and because it's so commonly spoken, probably won't help you stand out too much.
German seems like it would be very useful since it's Europe's biggest economy and there's such a large amount of financial activity that goes on in Frankfurt and all the other big cities there like Berlin, Hamburg, Munich, etc. Plus its spoken in Austria (Vienna) and Switzerland (Zurich).
Russian seems like it might offer the most benefit because it's an emerging market and hardly anyone speaks Russian. But apparently it's a very difficult language to learn, so is it really worth the time and effort.
I'm kind of torn between the three because 1) I already know a little French so the transition would be easier, 2) German just seems like it would be a solid and valuable language to know for banking, and 3) Russian seems like it might have the biggest payoff, but can I learn it in time and is it actually worth it?
Any comments or advice would be great. Thanks
Are you serious?
I wouldn't be asking for advice if I was kidding.
French will get you laid more.
I answered you in your other thread.
I speak Spanish fluently and Portuguese enough to get by in light conversation. Do not underestimate the effort it takes to learn a language. Even after studying Spanish for 3 years and then speaking it on a daily basis for the past 4 years I am still not at the level of a native speaker. Learning a language takes a monumental effort and to be able to use it in business settings requires an incredibly high level of fluency. Granted it is an incredibly rewarding feeling to be able to speak another language, but I'm not sure learning a language would be the most efficient use of your time if the only reason you want to learn it is for business purposes.
However, if you are set on doing it go for it. I have 2 friends that learned Russian - definitely the hardest of the 3. According to them it is such a difficult language that most English speakers that try and learn it never really become fluent because it's just so hard. But hey my 2 friends learned it so at least its possible.
Whatever you decide, the only way to really truly learn a language is to live in a place where you can speak with native speakers all day everyday for at least a few months. Good luck.
German is actually the hardest language... the grammar is really difficult . But i would go for it anyway.
I speak German and have used it in a work setting once, and that was to tell a dirty joke to a client on a conference call...
None.
French is mostly useless for you.
German is difficult to learn and no German will do business with you unless you have achieved near-native fluency. Additionally, English is well known in most parts of Germany that you would actually do business.
Russian is even more difficult to learn; the pronunciation and grammar are more difficult than German. Luckily Russians tend to be receptive of anyone trying to speak their language and will make an effort to understand you.
Does anybody on this site separate having a life from having a job anymore? Or is everyone just a tool who evaluates every life decision by its banking impact?
And 2-3 years to become fluent enough to do business in a foreign language is very optimistic.
@choke: what you said about germans is utter BS!!!!! Germans will make every effort to speak to you even if your German is not perfect. infact, knowing just a bit of German will earn you smiles and a whole bunch of goodwill even in a business situation. at the same time, many germans do speak fluent english, especially in business. in frankfurt it tends to be the language of choice in many offices and companies.
French is tougher to use in business bc the french tend to be somewhat arrogant when it comes to their language. they even have a ministry for the protection of the french language. however, if you do make an effort and show them that you wanna speak to them in their language, most people will give you credit for that. if it was between those two languages i would go with german though. the chance of encountering people from the corporate & banking elite of france who are particularly arrogant with their language is just too big.
russian i believe is the most interesting choice for you. it is hardly more difficult to learn than german once you have memorized the 35 characters that probably look frickin crazy to you. the sounds are oftentimes similar to those in english and other european languages and hence easily acquired. the beauty of russian lies in its almost universal application between eastern germany and japan. it remains the lingua franca in most former soviet states and bordering nations especially in business. that's why i personally would go with russian.
just a quick note on why i think i can give you advice on this issue. i was born to german parents, grew up in 4 different european countries as well as the US and am fluent in German, French, English and Dutch. I also have basic knowledge of Russian. i hope this all helps. let us know what choice you made.
I'd say learn Chinese, Arabic and then Russian. If you speak English, learning French, Spanish and German is nothing compared to learning Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Arabic.. (vice versa). If you really want to distinguish yourself, learn the languages of the countries that will get stronger in the future. (i.e. BRICs+ Middle East, Southeast Asia, etc) But chances are, you won't be fluent in those languages after learning it for 2 years and esp. if you are already 20+ years of age. So it might be efficient to learn one of those European languages I guess =p
This is completely useless... Forget about learning those langages for work at 20. Seriously, how are you going to compete with some Chinese/Moroccan/Bulgarian guy that already has 2 mother langages + fluent english... Gaining full proficiency in a langage with another alphabet/completely different logic is EXTREMELY hard.
I don't think learning a new language helps you much tbh. Why would someone hire you over a native speaker, everything else being equal.
Unless you want to work in Europe, speaking another language isn't going to do shit for you really. And even then it won't do much for you considering your peers who have grown up in Europe (i.e. your competition) can speak at least 2 languages with a fair degree of fluency. So unless you're planning on studying it extensively as in double majoring in Economics and Russian, you won't be able to hold a candle to any of your peers.
Personally, I'd learn Russian or Arabic. Russian because there's a ton of concentrated money in Russia, meeting the right people and being able to converse with them and establish some social goodwill could go a long way. Arabic for the same reason. Both are obviously very hard to learn.
I'm talking about a real word context, not a banking context. I agree with some of the above posted about people making every decision based on their career in banking.
Arabic: there are so many different dialects, so if you decide to go down that route make sure you learn the one that is universally used in the business world.
Sorry for changing the topic but have u ever thought of learning Hindi? India is marching on the path of the next superpower in the world.
That's cute, let's stop our little fantasies.
I'd say French - people tend to think of French as a classy language, plus lots of people are impressed if you know French. Plus when you wine/dine clients at fancy French restaurants, you can speak with the waiter and impress everyone.
just dont learn a language for business purposes. Unless you are perfectly fluent it is completely useless, and you will more likely than not, not achieve fluency in whatever language you pick up.
Id probably pick russian or french. German is out as Germans speak English. No french guy in the entire world can speak proper english (without a thick accent that is), russian is a similar story.
German for sure. Maybe Russian but screw French.
German is the mother-tongue in more European countries than English, French, Spanish or Italian. After English, German is the second most important language worldwide for business, tourism and diplomacy. In central and Eastern Europe, German is the most important foreign language.you can take your German Skype classes through (Preply)
As someone with Russian heritage who also studied Russian in undergrad/grad school, I would advise you not waste your time. Without living there for an extended period of time, you will not speak well enough for it to help you in any sort of business setting. Furthermore, there is very little business activity with Russia and limited job opportunities, especially for Americans (previously Americans were much more valued because of their education and expertise, however many Russian elites now receive Western educations from top tier American and European schools).
Personally, I think German is your best bet professionally.
I may be biased but French a) sounds better, b) will get you laid more, c) I would argue is more useful internationally (especially in Africa, Canada, Belgium and some parts of SE Asia, Caribbean, Pacific) and d) is the second official language of EU institutions. It is much more of a lingua franca than German. This is from someone who is fluent in German btw.
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