Why do I feel like this?
This might sound like a whiny, %^$# thread but I need to ask if anyone else feels the same way.
I am a rising senior at UPenn, not Wharton and have a 3.8 GPA while taking numerous wharton classes. I have been preparing for banking interviews for 2 years and fared well with the technicals during interviews and thought that most of mine went well.
However, I was not able to receive an offer until this week at a decent MM bank in their Industrial's group. I know it's a great offer and will give me great experience but I feel inferior.
All of my friends have top groups at top BB or elite boutiques and there are people on here who worked their ass of to break into BB from non-targets (Congrats!) and I feel inferior to them. I worked hard as shit preparing and networking to get one of those jobs and didn't get one.
Now I feel as if I won't be able to get to a top group for FT. And yes, I know this sounds like such a whiny, bitchy post but this is how I feel and I'm trying to change it. If it means anything, I am a transfer from ASU to Penn and really did work my ass off.
"Hey everyone, please feel bad for me!"
Not what I am saying. I'm asking if other people in my position feel this way. Is it natural or am I being a pussy.
The fact that you feel that way is natural; the fact that you had to post about it means you ARE being a pussy about it.
youre such a bitch
wallow for a couple days, drown your sorrows in booze, then buck up. Come into your FT role with a chip on your shoulder. It's far too early in your career to be "comparing" yourself to your friends in BB roles.
Be glad for your offer and kill it this summer. Feeling "inferior" to your friends is useless - luck plays a little part in all interviews and neither you nor your friends have accomplished anything but land SA roles at different banks. Stop worrying about prestige, and focus on learning and performing the long run.
Sure this means little, but...
I joined the rowing team at my school my freshman year even though I had a severe hindrance. I became friends with the guys and the coach kept me around even though I couldn't try out. I sat on the side for months watching as my teammates went out and had a great time bonding together where I couldn't be out practicing with them. I was treated as just some kid the coach felt bad for, that I couldn't have an impact. Needless to say I set out to prove them wrong. Within a few months I was better than most of them.
You go to one of the top universities and you feel bad cause you got a mediocre position opposed to an amazing one, deal with it. If you think you were wronged, prove everybody else they were wrong. Don't show this weakness by talking about it.
Hey there big guy, that realization that there's a huge disconnect between "hard work" and "success" is called growing up. It's best you got this feeling out of the way early so it'll be an easier pill to swallow later on. There's a reason ppl hate on graduation speeches now-a-days that pump up grads with hot-air, and its exactly because it prepares them to think that this exact feeling is "unnatural". Drop the sense of entitlement, and recognize you bring absolutely nothing to the table that thousands of other ppl can't.
I'm not saying this to be a dick, just trust me you'll be better off in the long haul if you can get your head right like that. You're setting yourself up for failure with your current mindset. Besides man, never underestimate the power of a nice chip on the shoulder ;-) That shit will take you wayyyyyyy further than a sense of entitlement ever could.
It's a tough economy... even though you go to a target you're not entitled to anything. That's my 0.02
Idk why everyone is bringing up the entitlement thing. I never said I was entitled to anything. I said I worked hard and didn't get what I wanted and now i feel inferior to my peers.
Never once did I say it wasn't fair or that I deserved better.
My bad. What you said almost makes it sound like you were entitled. The point is, it's a tough economy and not everyone's gonna get a BB or Elite Boutique position. It's not always in your control but you just gotta do your very best to obtain the role you're seeking.
So to summarize: Be glad to be employed this summer, at a solid MM doing IB. You can always look at FT roles. There's people who are probably working harder than you in tougher situations (non-targets?) Go kick A$# in your internship
Beggars can't be choosers in this market bromeo
did you network?
You have an SA offer at a "decent MM" in an actual IBD group -- be glad. There are a ton of people at top targets who are still working mid-office and no-name boutiques (hell, I know people at Hvd who don't even have anything lined up for the summer, and they're just as brilliant as the next person). You've been given a good opportunity; don't always compare up the ladder, there's always people above you and always people below you.
A career is a marathon not a sprint, you're doing fine out of the start, it really isn't where you start out, but where you end up. I knew two graduates of prestigious NYC Law Schools (Columbia and NYU) one graduated in the 50s and one in the 70s, the one from the 50s went to a no name firm, the one from 70s went to a firm like Cravath, SullCrom, Cleary. One is now worth north of 50 MM, the other is making the same as a 3rd year associate, I'll leave you to guess who. It's ok to feel like you do, but don't wallow in it, get up, dust yourself off and use the chip on your shoulder so you'll work hard and kill it.
Perfectly said. It doesnt matter where you start. It matters where you end. I know a BB head of global equity research who did not start at big firm. He actually started at a very small shop which had less 15 people in the office. He is one of the most hardworking person I have met.
You are on the right path. Maximize your gig.
I had to learn this the hard way: comparing yourselves to others will only make you miserable, both in the short-run and long-run.
Be honest with yourself. Stop giving a damn how you are perceived by others. Life isn't fair, so play with the hand you're dealt, make most out of your situation, and go kill it.
dude, an SA at a MM IBD is a solid gig. congrats bro! don't worry too much about your peers.
Brady's younger self.
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