Why is DCM/ECM not as good?

I'm kind of curious as to why people dislike DCM and ECM groups so much on these boards. Are the exit opps not as good/are the groups just overall not as impressive as Goldman TMT or something? Maybe my perception is wrong, but I'm basing this off of a noticeable amount of posts when I did a search saying to stay away from DCM, etc.

Also, are these groups typically easier to get into because they are less desirable or are they roughly equal?

Thanks in advance

 
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what is it with Goldman TMT? I know it's a good shop, but it's not make or break... ppl from megafunds are from a myriad of different backgrounds... I was talking to this guy in the elevator from TPG which is a couple floors above my office, and he was previously a personal injury lawyer before coming in...

i believe you will be exposed to similar exit opps as long as you're from a respectable firm. Going to GS TMT doesn't guarantee anything, it's about your interview, the way you write your resume, the way you present yourself, and a tinge of luck... these megafunds only hire a handful of ppl each year, and i'm pretty sure they're not all or consistently from GS TMT...

 
ZIRH:
what is it with Goldman TMT? I know it's a good shop, but it's not make or break... ppl from megafunds are from a myriad of different backgrounds... I was talking to this guy in the elevator from TPG which is a couple floors above my office, and he was previously a personal injury lawyer before coming in...

i believe you will be exposed to similar exit opps as long as you're from a respectable firm. Going to GS TMT doesn't guarantee anything, it's about your interview, the way you write your resume, the way you present yourself, and a tinge of luck... these megafunds only hire a handful of ppl each year, and i'm pretty sure they're not all or consistently from GS TMT...

//www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/list-of-common-perceptions-on-wso

I guess its a thing on WSO

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PA:
Everyone keeps talking about exit options as only mega-buyout funds. If that is your case, then ECM/DCM is not for you. But if you are in college, how do you know you won't like the work as an ECM/DCM?

I never said I'd dislike it. In fact, from the job description it sounds like the part of i-banking I'd enjoy. I was just curious, and I don't care about working for a mega PE fund, but I think I would like to work in PE, even if its at a small shop, someday (either PE or restructuring is my goal). Any comments on how easy it is to break in relative the others?

@Van Buren Boys: Flashes 8 Sign. Also, sorry for that. I did a search (mentioned that in the first post), but I guess I skipped over those somehow. That seems like a recent post, so its strange that I'd miss it. Thanks anyway though.

 
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PA:
Everyone keeps talking about exit options as only mega-buyout funds. If that is your case, then ECM/DCM is not for you. But if you are in college, how do you know you won't like the work as an ECM/DCM?

I never said I'd dislike it. In fact, from the job description it sounds like the part of i-banking I'd enjoy. I was just curious, and I don't care about working for a mega PE fund, but I think I would like to work in PE, even if its at a small shop, someday (either PE or restructuring is my goal). Any comments on how easy it is to break in relative the others?

@Van Buren Boys: Flashes 8 Sign. Also, sorry for that. I did a search (mentioned that in the first post), but I guess I skipped over those somehow. That seems like a recent post, so its strange that I'd miss it. Thanks anyway though.

I'm pretty sure ANY product or industry group at a respectable bank will get you an interview PE, if like you said, doesn't have to be the mega funds.

 

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