Working at a BB with DUI
Hi everyone
I interned my junior year at BB in a BO role. I managed to land an interview in a FO program last August. During this school year I made a dumb decision and got behind the wheel after having a few drinks; long story short I was involved in a minor accident as a result of refusing a breath test I was arrested and charged with 1st offence misdemeanor DWI. I'm still going to court dates, with my lawyer trying to plead it down to a traffic infraction (DWAI). He says if a background check is ran it will come up charges pending. My start date is in about 2/3 months so my background check will be around then.
I received my sign on bonus and I am afraid to buy things I need for work like clothing. My question to you all is if this is going get my offer rescinded? I have read many topics with posters saying banks are more concerned with integrity/finance related misdemeanors. Even on the app it says:
"For U.S. positions only: (Applicants to positions outside of the U.S. please respond N/A) Have you ever been convicted of, or plead guilty to, an offense other than a minor traffic violation? Include offenses for which you pled no contest or received probation; you may exclude convictions which have been ordered fully expunged (i.e. removed from your criminal record by a specific court order) or sealed by a court of law. (Offenses involving the possession or use of false identification for underage drinking and similar offenses should be disclosed. Offenses for driving under the influence, and driving while impaired DO NOT need to be disclosed unless the position for which you are applying requires driving as a routine job duty.) If yes, please explain. If no, please respond N/A."
So is this grounds for my offer to get rescinded if charges are pending/ if I'm convicted? Should I call up HR after I know the clear direction of the case to disclose? Or should I just disclose on the background check?
Doubt it.
But just to make yourself feel better get the # for a random person in HR at JPM. Make up a name and *67 before you call. Use the all time favorite WSO line "I have a friend who's starting at JPM out of undergrad and got a DUI..." and ask away.
1st, I would run a background check on myself to see what kind of skeletons come out.
2nd, do what Marcus says
dont most JPM have DUI as a right of passage? (kidding)
who knew a few drinks could quite possibly cost you your dream job?
I really think it is a sad state of affairs when one mistake can destroy someones life. Yes, I know, you have to think with your head and shit happens, but a DWI isn't rape or murder. With the BAC levels so low most everyone could get in trouble once in their lifetimes. Personally, I don't think it is the bankers, I think it is HR that is causing all of these problems. HR has always been making up BS rules, shit like that which screws over people.
this is why you should employ the nyquil technique. keep a 1/4 full bottle of nyquil in your car. when you see the red and blue lights flashing, chug the rest and hold the last bit in your mouth as long as possible so your breath reeks of it. when the copper asks whats up, tell him you're on your way to a drug store to get more. theres always a walgreens or cvs around the corner. they can still fuck you and give you a dui but shit the worst that happens is that you chugged some nyquil, and with a good lawyer who knows what could happen
note: this technique does not work if (a) you are still banded or (b) car is full of scantily clad hos
and jesus anthony your pic never ceases to creep me the hell out every time i see it lol
I hear you rooster, it's getting to the point that I feel like I see Darden guy everywhere...
So call a random HR person under another name to find out what the firms policy is? I'll do that monday.
ANy other thoughts? I'm really worried.... if anyone has any experience with this directly or indirectly please let me know your thoughts!
Yeah guys, sorry about Darden dude. I will replace him once I find something suitable.
I would call up HR and just be upfront with it. There is a lot of opinions on this one. I have heard it is best to be upfront, but then again it can fuck you if you bring it up too early and get DQ'ed. I think if you own the issue, talk about what you learned and how it has made you a more responsible and grown up person you should be fine.
Listen, if I was interviewing you I wouldn't give a shit. As long as you learned from your mistake I would considering it a character building event. Problem is HR usually dings people before this shit happens and your hiring manager would never know it happened. This is why HR ruins companies and is generally dead weight. If it wasn't for the fact that there are so many EEOC rules and potential lawsuits from workplace incidents HR would be outsourced or severely reduced.
By the end of June I should know which direction the Case is going if I will have to plead guilty to DWI; Should I call then? My Lawyer said there is still a chance of a plea deal?
And they have sent me the sign on check.
Should I call toward the end of June, let HR know that is was a lapse in judgement and it'll never happen again and what I've learned from the situation, and that this is the only thing on my record? And if they ask why I waited so long to let them know I could say I was waiting for the background check papers to see if I had to disclose the offence because the app says not to.
i went to jail and its on my record... worked at 4 bb;s and been through background check of two other bb;s... just be honest and your fine
Guess you had to learn the hard way, man-on-man sodomy is still illegal in Charlotte.
Haha, I am sure Monty was pitching not catching. JK man.
You know, there is a food chain in prison, I'm sure he was doing a little of both.
Not JK man.
:)
Not to get off on a tangent, but I personally feel as if rape in prison is one of the most unfortunate unheard of crimes. I think being in a cell all day and having your career, family and life ruin to be punishment enough. I mean I would rather die than serve 1 year in a prison. For every murderer or rapist that gets raped there is a guy who drove drunk once or twice, got into a stupid bar fight, had a momentary lapse. Giving up a year of your life is one thing, but getting gang raped should not be part of the penalty.
I know, completely off topic, but hey , I figured I would throw it out there.
maybe talk to one of the analysts you interviewed with and get their pov and maybe contact ur hiring manager.
think anthony's right that HR might screw you so why not try and avoid them. if your hiring manger agrees that its not a big deal you should be fine.
before doing any of that i would probably go the fake call to HR to find out if there is a policy on this; cause i doubt a company like jpm hasn't seen the scenario before.
@Anthony: It's not like that in all prisons for everyone. A guy I work with was wrongly convicted of armed robbery, served 7 years. He said there were guys that got raped definitely, but that wasn't the norm.
Still it does suck that it happens.
I noticed one thing they wanted disclosed was underage drinking/using a fake ID. Do banks actually care if you drink underage in college? Or use an ID?
only if you get caught
They do not. Just be upfront about it. Its a bigger deal if you don't disclose something.
Anecdotes: I had an underage drinking ticket which got expunged from my record. However, I did not have time to run a check on myself to make sure it was taken off my records before all my hiring paperwork was due. So, I just checked "Yes" and wrote in the box "I got an underage drinking ticket. The ticket was dismissed and is now expunged from my record".
One of my friends has 2 separate drinking tickets. He just paid them off, its still on his record, and he is working at a bank.
Welcome to America. The land where one minor mistake can ruin your entire life.
" I did not have sexual relations with that woman" -billy c clinton baby aka jamie foxx
I got off on three separate (misdemeanor, drinking related) charges and didn't disclose it. It wasn't an issue at the banks I applied to or when I accepted and had a background check. Not sure if this is the norm or an exception.
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