Would you trade next 10 years of 1st round picks for best QB ever?
I had this conversation with a friend last night and thought I would pose it to a broader audience.
If you knew that Andrew Luck (or insert young QB here) was going to be the best QB ever and would play for at least the next 15 years, would you trade your next 10 years worth of 1st round picks for him?
We both agreed it would largely depend on the front office... if you have a Beleck, the answer is an unequivocal yes because he is notorious for acquiring picks in trades and using them efficiently. On the other hand if you have the Browns FO it's a hard no because they are beyond inept.
Thoughts?
10 years? unless that QB was able to magically part defenses like the red sea, no way.
I would most definitely. I would rather find a needle in a haystack in later rounds than have to pay a guy a couple million a yyear with the possibility of him flopping. The great QB will take me further and is the very hardest thing to get in the sports world.
No. You have the chance of drafting 10 franchise players with those 10 picks. Why limit yourself to one, even if he is a future Hall-of-Famer? There are plenty of teams that have won Super Bowls without a stud QB (2000 Ravens come to mind).
What if you take that superstar QB and put him behind the shittiest O-line in the league because you don't have the picks anymore to draft good linemen? There's not a whole lot he can do in that scenario.
It would never happen. Unless this magic quarterback came with a magic contract that said he had to stay all 15 years on the same team it would be way too high of a risk for management. QBs like getting shiny new toys in the draft; this won't happen if you mortgage the next 15 years for one player. That being said, I'm sure Cleveland would gladly mortgage the future of their franchise for a few years of happiness.
No way. I wouldn't even trade more than two years. A good O-Line and a couple top WRs will make almost any NFL-calibre QB pretty damned great.
Ten is way, way too many for this to be an interesting question in my opinion.
How many franchises can you count that gets an elite QB every decade? Some franchises never have had an elite QB. All of the dynasty teams have the most elite QB in the league.
Do you know anything about football? Even an elite QB is pretty worthless without some combination of a good O-line, WRs and RB, and the team won't be able to win without a defense. You won't get that by giving up 10 years of draft picks.
Also, I would argue the following Super Bowl winning QBs -- since the 2000 Super Bowl alone -- were far from elite:
Joe Flacco Ben Roethlisberger Brad Johnson Trent Dilfer Tom Brady (2001 season)
Not to mention these Super Bowl runners-up: Kerry Collins Rich Gannon Jake Delhomme Matt Hasselbeck Rex Grossman
The common thread is that all the winners had great defenses and offensive lines.
I know tons about football. Skill positions are a dime a dozen. The question stated giving up your first round draft picks. You can draft great talent in rounds 2-8 and trade to fill in the other positions. Teams are not and will never be built on first round Draft picks.
You obviously don't know anything about football. The St Louis and Detroit should have championship teams because they have a top five pick every year.
Ben Roethliserger is an elite QB for this decade and in both of his super bowls during the 2000 time period. This isn't even a discussion point, it is a fact.
Regardless, this option of the best QB ever for 10 years worth of first round picks is definitely a TINY option for some teams. Overall though, if you analyze every team and their first round picks you will see every single team has gotten an incredible couple of players (at least two) within a ten year time frame. Most teams first round picks do incredibly well, look at the Giants, Patriots, Broncos, etc.
This is a very hypothetical question because it's impossible to know that a QB will be "the best ever" for the next 15 years. But I mean given the setup of your question, it sounds like the player will play for at least 15 years, which means that he won't get injured. As a result, I can't see how you cannot pick the QB over 10 1st round draft picks.
I mean just look at the RG3 trade. You had 3 first round picks, and a 2nd round pick, for a player who really was a relative unknown until his senior year (whereas Peyton/Luck/etc. all were assumed to be great after a year of starting college football). This was on top of the fact that there are injury concerns to a mobile quarterback, and the question of whether RG3 could read NFL defenses. This trade was applauded by analysts because the Redskins made a move for a franchise QB (now, not so much). Now remove that injury concern and ensure that the QB will be playing for your team for 15+ years? Absolutely.
You guys seem to be under the impression that you can't get a decent player after the first round. I mean, there are always some gems that go early, but there are an equal to higher number of busts. Plus, if you have the kind of QB issues that would cause a team to accept that deal, probably 2-4 of those 10 picks would be spent on a QB anyway.
This is what I have been trying to say.
No. Linemen are more sure bets than QBs, so you are going to pass up on tons of good linemen. These guys are the core of your team, even though practically nobody even knows their names (especially OL).
As a Seahawks fan that has seen our front office draft most of our starters after the 1st round, I would absolutely do it. Heck, the 1st round has probably been our weakest round lately.
As a Bears fan I would totally do this as we have a.) never had an elite QB and b.) we are horrible at 1st round picks any way, over the last 20 years we have had 2 good picks Brian Urlacher and last year drafting Kyle Long. The only thing that teams that are all ways good have in common is the elite QB.
Not Andrew Luck tho lmao
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