Why melvvvar? They are actually a profitable company unlike LinkedIn, Pandora, Groupon, etc.

Second, I doubt you are actually going to short this stock. The cost to borrow Zynga is going to make it a completely uneconomical short unless you think it's going to decline 50% or more which it won't.

My name is Nicky, but you can call me Dre.
 

it's hard to short the stock right now due to cost...but if there's a possibility i would do it

second melvvvar's ideas

fb squeezing the margin will be a big factor competition since there are millions of social gaming firms out there although profitable... i don't envision them to be so profitable that justify their current PE. Profits will only slow overtime due to the reasons mentioned above The market is extremely volatile right now and the last thing you want to add to your portfolio is another high beta stock that will get crushed if EU doesnt pan out.

 

Zynga has been CF positive since 2007. They have a dominant stranglehold on market share and they are ready to branch off from Facebook to keep their margins high.

If it was so easy for competitors to step on their toes, how come it has not happened in the last 4 years? Zynga is the only relevant player in social-media gaming at this point in time, period.

I don't know if it's a buy right now or not, but I certainly wouldn't advise shorting it.

My name is Nicky, but you can call me Dre.
 
SECfinance:

Thoughts? Just a way for insiders to cash out before the shit hits the fan?

I believe so. Maybe I'm just cynical but I don't see a whole lot of sustained growth in the future.

Rise early, work hard, strike oil.
 

No me gusta.

- Bulls make money. Bears make money. Pigs get slaughtered. - The harder you work, the luckier you become. - I believe in the "Golden Rule": the man with the gold rules.
 

@Bernankey: Farmville animals. But who plays Farmville, and who is still paying for Farmville?

CNBC sucks "This financial crisis is worse than a divorce. I've lost all my money, but the wife is still here." - Client after getting blown up
 

It seems like valuations in this sector have gone out of control (doesn't anyone remember 2000?)...The S&P 500 has successfully made it to 1330 as well with the help of QE2 and its younger and even more inflationary sister, QE3 (coming soon). How is it with grain, rubber, silver, copper, etc. prices hitting all time highs, we have no inflation? Are we destined to bubble after bubble?

 

Yeah the bubbles are going to keep happening until the entire system collapses. Too many powerful people make too much money as the bubble inflates and don't lose anything when the bubble bursts.

There is no incentive for those in charge to change their ways.

 
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What?! Zynga went down?! Noooooooooooooooooooo! There's NO WAY this stock could ever fall, ALL my friends play Words with Friends and some of them even play Draw Something, even some of the girls I know. And my little brother he plays the FarmVille and he loves it I don't know how this happened, does anyone know why it crashed? Did the iPhone market break? I heard something bad happened to Apple but I wasn't sure if that would be bad for the Zynga or if Words with Friends would be enough for it to be really popular?

I hate victims who respect their executioners
 
Beretta:
...looks like I'm gonna have to dump this at a loss, and start over. HAHA.

Next time you make a stock pick, make sure you go through BH's old posts and make sure it's not his most hated company of all time.

I hate victims who respect their executioners
 

Lets face it, all this so called new age tech companies are nothing but the same.

A company needs revenues to generate cash flows aftter expenses and working capital shifts. When the firm is unable to even recognize their revenues properly and extract value out of the huge user base, something is very wrong.

On your question, I think it depends on your risk appetite, time frame, other uses of cash and costs of opportunities.

Personally, I like to sell losers instantly if I spot a mistake on my part to avoid holding it for eons just to break even and lose out on inflation and lost opportunities. I will only hold things I believe has a value mispriced. It is hard for others to advise for you on this and only you know your profile the best.

Good luck!

 

I'm sorry but just after talking to some of the major shareholders today, honestly I think what these guys did in that secondary offering was borderline (if not over the line) criminal. You can cry all you want about insider trading or other white collar, but legally sanctioned raping of the investor base is apparently fine as long as you file it in advance with the SEC. This is an absolute monstrosity of a company, and they knew damn well what was gonna happen to this business. I'm so sick and tired of hearing from the masses about how amazing these "startup entrepreneurs" are and how on Wall Street we're all just a bunch of crooks trying to rape your wallet and adding zero value. What value does Zynga add? These guys and their techy counterparts are the real waste of space.

I hate victims who respect their executioners
 
BlackHat:
I'm sorry but just after talking to some of the major shareholders today, honestly I think what these guys did in that secondary offering was borderline (if not over the line) criminal. You can cry all you want about insider trading or other white collar, but legally sanctioned raping of the investor base is apparently fine as long as you file it in advance with the SEC. This is an absolute monstrosity of a company, and they knew damn well what was gonna happen to this business. I'm so sick and tired of hearing from the masses about how amazing these "startup entrepreneurs" are and how on Wall Street we're all just a bunch of crooks trying to rape your wallet and adding zero value. What value does Zynga add? These guys and their techy counterparts are the real waste of space.

My boss wants the CEO in prison. Seriously.

Edit: by boss, I mean founder of the fund.

 

If the majority of the users of any company you think about purchasing is a bunch of people who don't have money or have to get approval from someone else to use money. Do not touch.

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee WSO is not your personal search function.
 

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