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Analytics Services at Large Consulting Firms

Janhen's picture
Janhen
     
 
(Chimp, 4
 
Points)
 on 5/19/13 at 7:05pm

Does anyone know how good Accenture's Analytics services are and how strong of a background in topics like business intelligence, statistics, and mathematics is required?

Given that I'll be starting as a Systems Integration analyst soon, is it difficult to get a role on an Analytics project?

Hopefully any current and/or former Accenture employees on this forum will be able to help me out.

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Big 4 Audit - London

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D M
      O
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 4,826
 
Points)
 on 5/19/13 at 4:49pm

Asatar posted this up in The Other Road forum, thought some of you might be interested:

http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/working-in-b...

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Working In Big 4 Audit in London

Asatar's picture
Asatar
      O
 
 
(Neanderthal, 2,032
 
Points)
 on 5/20/13 at 6:12pm
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Someone was asking me about this in PM and I wrote a long and detailed reply about what it is like to work in Big 4 and what advice I would give to people thinking about interning / working there. Thought it might be useful for others so my reply is below. Happy to answer any questions.

I currently work in the Financial Services (investment banks, brokers, retail banks, corporate banks, spread betting companies) sector at a Big 4 firm in London. I started back in October 2012 after doing various investment banking internships. The market for hiring full time in banking just wasn't there in London at that time so I ended up where I am now.

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What to Expect as a Big 4 Intern?

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Higheck123
     
 
(Senior Orangutan, 497
 
Points)
 on 5/8/13 at 11:35am

Hello all,
As the title reads, I am going to be an intern at one of the Big 4 firms this summer. I know 90% of the people here shit on Big 4 but I didnt want to go that route and I was happy to get the offer I did. It is for an audit position in financial services and is located in a major city on the east coast (think NYC, Boston, Philly). I have been researching the various boards and forums, and speaking to some people about the experience of public accounting, specifically Big 4 audit. However, I keep getting varying answers depending on where the sources come from.

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Too many jobs prior to bchool?

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needtodecide
     
 
(Senior Monkey, 90
 
Points)
 on 4/30/13 at 3:51am

I'm currently a 2nd year IB analyst at a non-GS/JPM/MS/elite boutique firm, and spent ~1.5 year in a Big 4 audit group prior to lateraling into IB. I intend on staying for a 3rd year analyst position in the same bank to lengthen my employment history but don't have plans to pursue direct promotion to associate. After my 3rd year, my options are to move to another company (be it corp dev, strategy, PE) or to go the bschool route at this point.

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Which offer would you take?

BankMonkey21's picture
BankMonkey21
      IB
 
(Orangutan, 327
 
Points)
 on 4/29/13 at 10:49pm

Big 4 Advisory or second tier BB Finance Division? Which one has more long term growth and earning potential?

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Next big step to the C-suite

asianguy85's picture
asianguy85
     
 
(Chimp, 3
 
Points)
 on 4/5/13 at 1:35pm

Hi all,
Not sure if this question was already asked else where...
Anyway, I'm 28, with an MBA, half way done with my CPA, working as a Senior Financial Analyst for a Fortune 50. (probably a dream job to many)
Life is easy at the moment. However, I feel that my career is getting a bit "flat"? Like most big MNC, going up the ladder takes a long time at my company. So I'm really looking for the next big career move to reach a C-suite at 35. (my life-long goal since college)

With some lucks, I was able to get an offer for a Finance Manager position (FAS) at a Big 4. The new job gives me opportunities to work on M&A, deals, client advisory, pretty much the opposite stuff that I'm experiencing now.

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Big 4 consulting vs IBM consulting?

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soontobeconsultant
     
 
(Chimp, 13
 
Points)
 on 3/7/13 at 1:33am

I'm considering between these two options. I'm more interested in management consulting. But I don't know which firm I should go for entry level. Between PwC (Performance Alignment) Ernst & Young (PI)and IBM (Business Information) consulting? Any idea? Thanks in advance

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Big 4 US vs UK

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n1cktm
     
 
(Orangutan, 304
 
Points)
 on 1/31/13 at 6:35pm

Not really on topic but when reading these forums I have noticed there is a big difference in the level of respect Big 4 audit receives in the UK vs. the US.

To put it short, what is the reason for this difference? Why is Big 4 considered to be more prestigious in the UK? Is it harder to break in, does it pay more, etc?

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Exit Opportunities for Systems Integration Consulting

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AdnanNKhan
     
 
(Chimp, 9
 
Points)
 on 1/30/13 at 4:13pm

I would like to know what some of the possible exit opportunities are for someone with 2 years of systems integration experience at a Tier 2 consulting firm.

I just want to see what the available options are.

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Window to Accept FT Offer?

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WessManTooth
     
 
(Monkey, 45
 
Points)
 on 1/24/13 at 6:41am

Just a quick question: How long do the Big 4 give, after extending a full-time offer from a summer internship, to accept or reject? I am curious about this because I would like to keep my options open for full-time offers through OCR next fall and not be tied down to a firm before weighing all of my options. Thanks in advance.

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Internship help: F50 Corp Fin or Big 4 Audit?

season11's picture
season11
     
 
(Senior Chimp, 26
 
Points)
 on 12/24/12 at 10:24am

I'm a third year, I want to work in finance in the tech industry when I graduate, and I'm not interested in a career in accounting. For the summer I have an offer for Big 4 Audit and an offer for F50 Corp Fin.

If I want to work in finance it seems logical to go for the F50 position but I've received a lot of feedback that big 4 would be a great brand name on my resume(Big 4 as opposed to Kraft, Caterpillar, Intel, Best Buy). My concern was that the difference in the name won't compensate for the fact that acc and fin are two different fields and it might create more hurdles for me when I recruit for fulltime.

Basically, my question is which offer would allow me to put my best foot forward for full time recruiting?

I'd love to hear any opinions anyone might have!

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E&Y OTS Group

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jonnyesmuyloca
     
 
(Senior Chimp, 28
 
Points)
 on 12/19/12 at 6:53pm

Does anyone have first hand experience or know of anyone that have worked in this group? Seems like an interesting opportunity. I am looking at post undergrad by the way.

Thanks!

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Big 4 V. IB....Explain the Disconnect?

Higheck123's picture
Higheck123
     
 
(Senior Orangutan, 497
 
Points)
 on 12/15/12 at 8:39am

I am a soon to be big 4 audit intern in a major metro area and I spend a decent amount of time researching/speaking to people about the various demands of the job. There seems to be this overwhelming consensus that the hours at the big 4 and other accounting firms is hellish and people cannot cope. This is mostly chalked up to busy seasons with 80+ hour work weeks and approximately 60 hours or so during other times of the year.

On the other hand, as a avid wso browser, I see that most people in finance roles at IB, ER, etc work average weeks of 80+ hours and sometimes up to 100+.

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local boutique vs big4 audit vs master

ansonc's picture
ansonc
     
 
(Chimp, 12
 
Points)
 on 12/15/12 at 4:31am

Hi all,

I have interned in a local boutique (with 6 people) in Hong Kong and the MD invited me to go back to work after graduation. I am not sure about whether I should work there or not because the career path is uncertain. Hence, I would like to ask if any of you can comment on the exit opportunity of working for a local boutique. Is it possible to transfer to BB/PE/HF at the later stage? Also, what is the salary in general?

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Breaking into Corp. Strat./Dev.

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Art.Vandelay
      O
 
(Senior Orangutan, 464
 
Points)
 on 12/4/12 at 5:02pm

Hey guys,

I'm a junior at a non-target in Florida, not even in the top 100 in fact. I chose to go here before I really knew much about careers in high finance and the like. And realistically, staying in-state was the only way I'd be able to afford it anyway.

After doing research I decided on trying to go for Big 4 audit, which recruits decently at my school, and take it from there as far as exit ops. I was pretty satisfied with the salary I'd eventually make and work I'd be doing after moving over to private, but then I researched a little more and found this site. It made me think that I could do better than just being an accountant. I think business/corporate strategy/development is what I'd really like to do.

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Big 4 consultant - transitioning to IB

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randymoss84
     
 
(Chimp, 15
 
Points)
 on 12/4/12 at 3:14pm

I graduated from a state school in June 2012 and am now working for a Big 4 Accounting firm as a consultant. I want to make the transition to investment banking and need advice. I have a network of analysts at various middle market IBs that I could leverage but want to make sure I'm making the right move. I am extremely hard-working and am currently pursuing my CPA and finishing my CFA. I guess my question is what are my next steps (i.e. stay with big 4 and finish CPA/CFA, apply to MBA school, or immediately apply for IB positions). Thanks.

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Road to Corporate Finance/Corp Development

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Hugo Stiglitz
      CO
 
(Baboon, 143
 
Points)
 on 12/3/12 at 6:26pm

I was curious to find out what the best route would be to get into a F100 Corporate Development or Corporate finance group?

I'm under the impression that MBB get a lot of love because, beyond their reputation, they experience a significant amount of modeling during their tenure, which allows them to have the modeling skill-set up there if IBankers. But for all the other consulting firms that may not necessarily be as modeling-heaving, i.e. some tier 2/3 consulting firms and Big 4, what would they need to do to break into to the Corp Dev/Corp Fin groups of the F100? Would they need to get some IB experience or something Finance/Modeling heavy?

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Online Masters of Accounting

B2B430's picture
B2B430
     
 
(Senior Chimp, 21
 
Points)
 on 11/14/12 at 8:57pm

Hey Guys,

I was wondering if anybody has any insight on any online masters of accountancy programs. I'm looking for a part time program and being that I'm a finance major, I have no prior accounting prerequisites.

Thanks

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underg with a GPA of 3.22, aim for Big 4

Oj32's picture
Oj32
     
 
(Chimp, 2
 
Points)
 on 11/7/12 at 9:32pm

Hi everyone,

I am currently a junior with culmulative GPA of 3.22 now and expect to boost up to above 3.3 by the end of my junior year. I want to get into one of the Big 4 accounting Firms. My college is a targeted college and I am double majoring in Accounting and Finance. I had a Deloitte Intern in the summer of my freshman year outside U.S. I am concerning what's my odds of getting a FT job from Big 4 in the next recruiting season? thanks everyone.

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Internal Audit at BB vs Big 4

WhoSteen's picture
WhoSteen
     
 
(Monkey, 42
 
Points)
 on 11/5/12 at 8:10pm

Might seem lame to most but I'm just an accounting type of guy. Could anyone give their 2 cents on audit opportunities in bb vs big 4? In terms of salary and exit opps mostly. Also how does someone land an internal audit job at an investment bank? Most banks aim their recruiting for those trying to get into IBD or AM, S&T etc. They don't really have internships or programs for auditors.

Thanks.

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Big 4 TAS or Top Bank Rotational Program

mfillet's picture
mfillet
     
 
(Chimp, 3
 
Points)
 on 11/3/12 at 4:57pm

I need help choosing between 2 offers (both in NYC).

First offer: BIG 4 TAS/Audit rotation. For first 2-3 years spend 9 months in audit and 3 months in TAS. After that is over go full time to TAS with rotations throughout the different service lines. Pay is in higher 50's to start with the CPA contingent bonus, and possible end of year bonus. Would start this job in 10 months.

Second offer: 2 year, 4 job rotational program at one of the world's largest banks but in back office positions. Once that is over enter the firm as a senior analyst which comes with a significant pay increase. Pay is initially in the low 60's but comes with relocation bonus and there should be a smaller, but larger than BIG 4, end of year bonus. Start the job in 3 months.

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Big 4 Interview Questions

Gulf Coast Finance's picture
Gulf Coast Finance
      IB
 
(Orangutan, 302
 
Points)
 on 10/29/12 at 8:44pm

It's tricky when a Big4 firm asks you about career goals, given that a good bit of people spend a few years there and then move on. If anyone has experience in this, how did you answer this question? What do you think would be a good way to deal with this tricky situation?

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Chances of getting into an M7 School

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Big4toBanker
     
 
(Chimp, 8
 
Points)
 on 10/26/12 at 6:04pm

Assuming I have a high enough GMAT score, is it even possible for me to get accepted at an M7 school. I am looking to switch careers to IB and figured an MBA is the best way to get me there. Here's a little background info

- I'm Indian
- Undergrad in India
- Worked in India for a year for a Big 4 accounting firm. Was quickly offered the opportunity to go to the US on assignment for a year.
- Once in the US, I got promoted to Senior associate in less than two years of total work experience. It usually takes people 3 - 4 years to be promoted to senior.
- After that I moved to another Big 4 accounting firm and have continued working there for about a year and a half.
- I have had good reviews every year at work.

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Big 4 CF to IB

sanogee's picture
sanogee
      CF
 
(Monkey, 38
 
Points)
 on 10/24/12 at 10:00am

Fellow Primates,

I'm a CF analyst at a Big 4 firm in an emerging market country(not BRICS), and i badly want to get a piece of the WS IB action, what route should a guy such as myself take? I was thinking an MBA from US university, then a CFA, would reversing the order help matters or make it more difficult? Or is there another route i would need to follow to give me a fighting chance? Any/all advice is welcome

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Dreams of Big 4: F on Transcript for Academic Dishonesty?

freddyflintstone's picture
freddyflintstone
     
 
(Chimp, 4
 
Points)
 on 10/18/12 at 11:39pm

Hey everyone

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Big 4 M&A Tax Over IB

john2's picture
john2
     
 
(Baboon, 134
 
Points)
 on 10/3/12 at 3:49pm

I'm a sophomore at a semi-target majoring in econ (minoring in acct) and am deciding whether to go into IB or Big 4 accounting. I want to eventually start my own firm and think that if I work in taxes, I could start my own accounting firm after 5-6 years. I'm not really sure if working in IB would give me any applicable skills to open up a business. So even if I could get a MM or BB IB internship, should I still go to Big 4 accounting?

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KPMG TS Interview

Charle's picture
Charle
      AM
 
(Monkey, 43
 
Points)
 on 10/3/12 at 11:14am

Hi guys,

I've just get a call from KPMG inviting me for an interview.

As I got informed there will be some mini case to do.

Do you guys have any information concerning these interviews?

Any insight appreciated. Thx.

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Updated Big 4 with FDD experience (2 month rotation)

MistaBooks's picture
MistaBooks
     
 
(Orangutan, 289
 
Points)
 on 10/1/12 at 9:35am

This is my updated resume with FDD experience added. I just completed a rotation and am thinking about whether or not I should start interviewing (otherwise would have to go back to audit and if lucky get hired full time after busy season)

I am wondering if I should narrow the side margins on the work experience. When I print it out it looks kind of skimpy. Should I narrow them and add more wording?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

http://www.razume.com/documents/27807

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Accounting career prospects

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brandonhallnc
     
 
(Chimp, 2
 
Points)
 on 9/27/12 at 12:08pm

Hello everyone,

This is my first post so I apologize if this in the wrong place. I looked through the forums but couldn't seem to find an answer to all of my questions.

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