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cold email
 

Is this email title too aggressive "Working in the xx group at xx firm"?

jasper90's picture
jasper90
      IB
 
(Gorilla, 571
 
Points)
 on 5/12/13 at 1:30am

As a background, these are all very cold emails. i am a nontarget with barely any alumni. I have gotten a 30% response rate, which I am surprised by (i thought it would be lower). I know title can be a huge factor in whether or not someone even opens the email.

I do my best to specify group so it seems like I at least did some digging.

In the email i mention i am interested in the firm and would like to learn more about them and the group. This is for Ft btw.

I feel like asking for an "informational interview" just seems weird, but I see a lot of threads suggesting that. So would "XX university Student Seeking Informational Interview" be better?

tl;dr....would you think this title is too aggressive?

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Random Cold Email

donkeyBusiness730's picture
donkeyBusiness730
      IB
 
(Senior Monkey, 86
 
Points)
 on 4/14/13 at 2:02am

Just wondering if it's okay to randomly cold email MDs, VPs or Associates at finance firms.

I'm from a non-target, therefore it is extremely hard to find alumni.

Any thoughts?

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For those in IB, cold emailing question

jasper90's picture
jasper90
      IB
 
(Gorilla, 571
 
Points)
 on 4/13/13 at 5:10pm

Generally, I have basically had my cover letter as my cold email and probably had about 25% respond back. My resume and GPA are not stellar by any means and I am a non target. My cover includes my info, background, why I am interested and a request to set up a phone call for more info. It is about 3 short paragraphs.

In general, I know everyone says keep it short and simple.

Do you find it annoying when people send 3 short paragraphs?

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Cold emailing former employees for recruitment process/interview advice?

trionfatore's picture
trionfatore
     
 
(Senior Monkey, 90
 
Points)
 on 4/3/13 at 10:01am

Need some good advice here.

I have a telephone interview lined up for a boutique and to mitigate the risk of screwing up, I saw a few past intern employees at the firm on LinkedIn. Would it be appropriate to shoot a cold email to them asking about their experiences and interview process? If so, how would I approach them without coming off too stalkerish or awkward? Especially since I have no idea whether he might have friends/be in contact with the current employees, it is a small boutique after all.

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Quick cold email question - pwm internship

dor209's picture
dor209
     
 
(Chimp, 4
 
Points)
 on 3/13/13 at 4:02pm

I've cold emailed an MD at a regional BB PWM branch basically saying that I'm interested in an internship and he replied with a brief 'have you checked online applications?'.

embarrassingly, I didn't because I thought my resume was inferior and I thought PWM didn't have a more structured application process, so I never thought of it.

So I want to just reply straight up, 'no I thought I could improve my chances by asking you directly', but I thought that would be too direct. I'm pretty sure he's not interested, but I just wanted to ask you guys if there was any way to respond favorably?

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Following up after submitting resume

rcc_91's picture
rcc_91
      IB
 
(Monkey, 36
 
Points)
 on 2/24/13 at 9:27pm

I'm interested if anyone has any experience with contacting someone at a small boutique after submitting your resume to the [email protected] or whatever email. I am considering reaching out to an analyst or associate to let them know I submitted my resume and affirm my interest. And also ask for an informational interview to learn about the firm.

I specifically mean in a case where you have no connection with anyone at the firm. I feel like this gives me a logical reason to be emailing them and could maybe put me on their radar.

Do you guys think this could be helpful, or be annoying/awkward?

Thanks!

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How to mention additional connections in a cold e-mail?

Craftphoto's picture
Craftphoto
     
 
(Monkey, 61
 
Points)
 on 2/24/13 at 8:15pm

Cold emailing alumni of a teaching fellowship program I'm doing. Obviously, I can mention that I'm looking at alumni of the XYZ teaching fellowship program. But I noticed that one of the people (very high up) went to school in my hometown. I feel like this would be a good connection to mention to improve the chances of a reply but I'm not sure how to go about doing this.

"I also noticed you went to XYZ University. While I went to school on the East Coast, just wanted to mention that I grew up in ABC town and grew up a XYZUNIVERSITYMASTCOTNAME fan."

I feel like that sounds really forced and awkward, any thoughts?

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List Questions in a Cold Email or Just ask to talk on the Phone?

Craftphoto's picture
Craftphoto
     
 
(Monkey, 61
 
Points)
 on 2/19/13 at 11:21pm

When I cold email I usually list a lot of questions 5-6, and then say I'd be happy to talk on the phone. Should I just not list the questions and ask set up a phone call so that I can talk to them live (and possibly lead to an offer to pass along the resume) or should I give them the option to answer via email?

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Cold Emailing AM vs. IB?

karlsson65's picture
karlsson65
     
 
(Monkey, 53
 
Points)
 on 1/25/13 at 3:21pm

Is cold-emailing/calling small AM firms for internships not as feasible as cold-emailing boutique IBs? It seems like there's perhaps less grunt work to pass off to an analyst/intern than there is in IB so I thought they'd be less willing to take on an intern.

Am I right in thinking this? I've been most focused on contacting boutique IBs but looking to expand my search to AM as well.

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Cold Emails

oninuva's picture
oninuva
      IB
 
(Monkey, 54
 
Points)
 on 1/14/13 at 11:08pm

I've sent out my applications for BBs but haven't heard back so I've come up with a list of around 50 smaller banks to try. Some of them have application drops but some of them just provide an email/contact. Is there a format to follow? Is it true that I shouldn't include CL/Resume on the first email? thanks monkeys

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How exactly to send a cold email?

heretoask's picture
heretoask
     
 
(Monkey, 45
 
Points)
 on 12/28/12 at 4:10pm

I am a freshman in college about to send out a bunch of emails to small firms in the Greater New York area in search of an internship this summer. I have read a bunch of posts about cold emails but I am still confused regarding the basics of sending one. I have my cover letter and resume ready, but I am not sure if I should be attaching these to the initial email. Also, I am confused as to what I should be writing in the email itself because the cover letter as I understand it is basically an introduction of yourself/why you want to intern at that specific company. If I write that in the email too, I thought it would be very repetitive.

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Personal vs Business for Cold Email...

Steveisnotmyname's picture
Steveisnotmyname
     
 
(Senior Chimp, 22
 
Points)
 on 12/10/12 at 7:18pm

So a lot of the people in my alumni directory only have their personal emails, not their work emails. I could take a stab in the dark using the company's email format I find on WSO, but should I just email the personal account instead? And say "sorry I only saw your personal email listed"

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Cold emails across the river: UK to NY Boutiques

Oscar_chow's picture
Oscar_chow
     
 
(Senior Monkey, 68
 
Points)
 on 12/9/12 at 4:29pm

Hey Guys, I had a thought today and I'd like the advice of the WSO community.

I've been a long time reader and have noticed that networking/cold emailing/cold calling is heavily emphasised in the pursuit of breaking into the industry. I've many made many applications to London positions (UK student here btw) for 2013 summer analyst positions, but all to no avail. After a slew of rejections I have only a handful of live apps remaining, and above all I don't have time to make any more apps due to university work. So, I wondered if it is within the realm of possibility that cold emailing NY (or anywhere in America for that matter) boutiques with a cover letter and CV could perhaps land in a few weeks paid/unpaid work experience? If this seems absurd- please let me know!

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email disaster

OMG123IPHONE's picture
OMG123IPHONE
     
 
(Chimp, 2
 
Points)
 on 11/29/12 at 4:00am
email disaster.jpg

Attempted to cold email one of the alumni (VP at the firm), used the email format on WSO and turned out emailing the wrong person with the same last name and same first name initial (a senior MD). first time, that guy didn't reply, then I followed up with him and he forwarded my resume to the campus recruiter and the recruiter implicitly told me I emailed the wrong person. Am I screwed?

Mod note (Andy): while we're on the topic, what's the worst email disaster you've had (or heard about)?

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Cold-emailing more bankers at a firm (after meeting several)

orangebull's picture
orangebull
     
 
(Senior Baboon, 205
 
Points)
 on 11/15/12 at 1:33am

So, I have met about 2 analysts and 3 senior bankers at a BB.

I am really interested in reaching out to another analyst as I saw on Linkedin that we were in some of the same national organizations (and they are in a different IBD group).

At this point, few weeks away from SA deadlines, would cold-emailing seem too desperate/last minute or forward? Should I also just strictly focus on my current contacts?

Thanks guys.

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Who to cold email?

andrew4f's picture
andrew4f
     
 
(Chimp, 13
 
Points)
 on 11/12/12 at 1:18am

Hey, I'm looking to get into consulting internships, and so I'm trying to network hard with them now, getting informational interviews and such---that being said, who should I cold email for informational interviews? The more senior the member, the better? Or should I target a specific person?

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How to follow up on this email with an alum?

brianklk's picture
brianklk
      O
 
(Baboon, 135
 
Points)
 on 11/11/12 at 2:13pm

I am trying to making a lateral and sent a cold email to an alum working at a competitor. I attached my resume and was pretty straightforward in my initial email. I never expected to hear back but he got back to me a week later saying that he has been really busy and will get back to me at the end of the week. He never did and that was two weeks ago. I've been tied up with other things going on so I haven't followed up yet. What would be the best thing to say back to him? I don't want to screw it up.

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Piping Hot Email?

BoxerRebeller's picture
BoxerRebeller
     
 
(Orangutan, 271
 
Points)
 on 10/20/12 at 11:27am

In discussions for a job. I had a written assignment and I think I did very well in it, to the point that a fresh set of eyes next day made me think I didnt even write it.

Anyway, I sent it off, and got an immediate response about how she'll get back to me this week for interview dates.

Nothing so I emailed twice two days later. Got this response:

"I havent had feedback. Please give me some time until next week"

Now, that doesnt sound great too me. Perhaps I was a little pushy. I should say that the recruiter is Indian and based in India for some reason even though the job is NYC (big consulting company).

Any thoughts?

PS - the title is sarcastic for all these 'warm email' threads popping up. Just for those who dont get it.

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Yet another cold email..

Thedss's picture
Thedss
      ST
 
(Senior Baboon, 193
 
Points)
 on 10/15/12 at 12:34pm

Cold email a guy at CS this morning. Got this response: "I have asked HR to contact you."

Is this a terrible response?

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Cold emailing boutiques

pelikan's picture
pelikan
     
 
(Chimp, 9
 
Points)
 on 10/12/12 at 11:26pm

I need to cold email boutiques for an internship next summer and have no alumni contacts. I'm looking to get an internship with a boutique and all I typically see on the websites is the general hr contact info. However, people here say that asking contacts for informational interviews is better than just sending your resume out and asking for an internship. How am I supposed to get around this and actually contact non-hr personnel to network effectively? Also, since I'm interested in equity research, would it be appropriate to send analysts emails from the email addresses they provide in equity research reports?

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Warm response or not?

Thedss's picture
Thedss
      ST
 
(Senior Baboon, 193
 
Points)
 on 10/13/12 at 4:00am
email response.jpg

Hi guys, cold emailed a guy, got no response and followed up this morning. He responded, saying this:

Thank you for your e-mails.

I am making some enquiries regarding your request, and hope to be able to come back to you on this matter early next week, so please bear with me.

Could you also let me know where you obtained my contact details from?

Kind regards, and have a good weekend.

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Critique Networking Cold Email

john2's picture
john2
     
 
(Baboon, 134
 
Points)
 on 10/5/12 at 12:58pm

Do you guys think you can critique my cold email. I tried to keep it as short as possible. Where does it need improvement?

Mr./Ms. Smith,

My name is John Doe. I am a junior at ______ majoring in economics. I am interested in ________ and saw that you were a partner in the _______
department at ___company____. Whenever you have time, I would love to talk to
you about your career and how you got started there. My phone number
is 1-XXX-XXX-XXXX and my email is ______________. I am looking forward to hearing from you.

John Doe
contact info
contact info

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Cold Email Follow Up...From Abroad

americanwanker's picture
americanwanker
     
 
(Senior Chimp, 16
 
Points)
 on 9/25/12 at 9:07am

So I'm in the process of cold emailing for internships this summer. I've done the second follow up email to several of the firms, but as I'm studying abroad for the year, I don't have the luxury of giving them a simple phone call.

Any advice on how to stay persistent without being impersonal using email?

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How to follow up with cold email

Thedss's picture
Thedss
      ST
 
(Senior Baboon, 193
 
Points)
 on 9/17/12 at 9:29am

So I am studying abroad next semester and want to intern part time there at a firm that deals with energy. I have been cold emailing folks over there to no avail. Finally, a VP of a firm responded this morning with this:

Hi ___,
Nice to hear from you.
Let me now once your in ___so we can get together for a tea.
Best regards,

The problem is I won't be there until after winter break and want to have an idea of where I could intern before that. Should I ask for a skype chat or something?

Thanks

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Why does everybody respond in blue text via email?

orangebull's picture
orangebull
     
 
(Senior Baboon, 205
 
Points)
 on 7/30/12 at 8:10pm

Doesn't matter which company either - Is that just an outlook thing?

It's all the same shade of blue too.

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Received response to cold email after 5 months

pickle's picture
pickle
     
 
(Monkey, 44
 
Points)
 on 6/10/12 at 10:44am

I emailed a firm a very long time ago regarding an internship but only got a reply back recently. However I have already started my internship for the summer. How should I respond in a polite way? I'm not ruling out the possibility of interning here at some in the future either. Would it be possible to ask for an informational interview at this point?

Thanks

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Interesting reply from MD - Don't know what to do!

iamamonkeybanker's picture
iamamonkeybanker
      IB
 
(Senior Monkey, 89
 
Points)
 on 6/9/12 at 9:02am

Whatsup monkeys,

I got an interesting case on my hands. So I recently cold e-mailed an MD at a BB. Yet, he only replied to me: "Please get him in the intern loop" while cc'ing a senior associate (I'm guessing who works for him).

So my question is what does this MEAN? And what should I do as I'm totally new to this cold stuff. Should I wait for another email maybe from the sr associate or should I say thanks (although I'm not quite sure what to say thanks on).

Any help on this would be awesome! Thanks guys.

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How should I write this Cold Email?

seedy underbelly's picture
seedy underbelly
      IB
 
(King Kong, 1,090
 
Points)
 on 6/9/12 at 8:07am

Hey guys,

I was looking to reach out to an alum. Any help for this particular situation?

- first, the alum's not on linkedin but is featured on bank's website.
- no email address is mentioned, but i found out the sample format through google

My only concern is not to sound overeager, IYKWIM.

Thanks

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A Meditation on Cold E-mails

DonVon's picture
DonVon
      IB
 
 
(King Kong, 1,914
 
Points)
 on 5/30/12 at 10:49am
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As we all know, cold e-mailing and cold calling are two effective ways to network when you're starting out with limited connections, coming from a non-target, or coming from a different industry. I won't go over in great detail *how* to specifically cold e-mail in this post, as there is a plethora of information on WSO about the subject, but I want to talk a little bit about my own experience with sending out hundreds of e-mails and the limitations of this as a strategy.

First and foremost, cold e-mailing is an umbrella term: as I define it, I include e-mails to set up informational interview, e-mails asking for internships, e-mails just "reaching out", etc etc etc. Some people consider asking for an information interview to be markedly different from asking for an internship (at least via e-mail), but I would disagree. You still need to tailor your e-mail specifically to that person/firm and you're essentially asking the same thing -- everyone knows that you're going to end up _asking_ them for something, and you have to position yourself accordingly.

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Who is more willing to talk to you, VPs or Associates?

ValueInvesting's picture
ValueInvesting
      IB
 
(Senior Baboon, 180
 
Points)
 on 5/24/12 at 6:02pm

I wanted to get opinions of people here. I am sure many of you have cold emailed VPs and Associates before. Which is more likely to email you or take a call from you?

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