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Pitch Book practise

MJ99's picture
MJ99
     
 
(Senior Chimp, 25
 
Points)
 on 12/12/12 at 5:23pm

Ok guys,

I'm looking to practise writing pitch books. Primarily Sell-side.

I've searched the forums/M&I and have found some useful pitch book examples and 'templates'. My question is though, how to you practise creating them? Would you suggest using past M&A transactions or completely starting from scratch and generating your own M&A transaction ideas.

I'm looking for a way to neatly demonstrate my competency in DCF, Comps, Price-to-Earnings and Precedent Transactions Analysis along with my PowerPoint skills. I thought a pitch book would be the most relevant way to do so.

If you have any other ideas on how I could demonstrate competency in such a way I'd appreciate any suggestions.

Please excuse any newbie terminology I've used as I am...a newbie!

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Net Working Capital Question

sweetmelon's picture
sweetmelon
     
 
(Monkey, 55
 
Points)
 on 9/16/12 at 11:25am

I know there's a bunch of threads on NWC. But I couldn't find one to address my question:

If there is negative changes in nwc, then cash flow increases.

This is a good thing, right?

But when there is negative NWC, it could mean that firm will go bankrupt, (current assets cannot cover current liabilities).

So is it a good thing for NWC to have negative changes year over year? (it increases the value based on valuation methods such as DCF, but doesn't it also mean that the company is not doing so well?)

Thanks in advance!

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7 steps to awesome comps

bankerella's picture
bankerella
      IB
 
 
(King Kong, 1,869
 
Points)
 on 8/24/12 at 6:18pm
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Hey, monkeys. I've seen a bunch of questions out there in WSO-land about how to pick comps. Thought I'd share my two cents about how it works in my experience:

  1. Pick the most sane, sensible comps using companies of similar size in the same sector.
  2. Compare them on all of the normal axes: revenues, EBITDA, and net income.
  3. Send the comp analysis out to all senior bankers on the deal.
  4. Take cover and watch the shitshow as senior bankers make up new metrics (EBITDAM? EBITDASO? EBITDARC?), add completely different companies, subtract companies other senior bankers already added, and adjust each company's data pro forma for events that have nothing to do with current or future reality.
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Comparable Transaction to TastyKake

yankeez6's picture
yankeez6
     
 
(Monkey, 37
 
Points)
 on 3/19/12 at 5:37pm

Can someone please provide a comparable transaction to the FLO TSTY transaction?

Thank you!

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Historical vs Projected comp spreading

mbaba's picture
mbaba
      IB
 
(Senior Chimp, 23
 
Points)
 on 2/24/12 at 9:33pm

When you spread historical comps from filings and then find analyst reports to get the projections, what are the best practices methodologies to make sure the numbers are apples to apples? For example, for EBITDA, should you add back non-recurring expenses historically to D&A, what if the analyst reports you have access to don't go into this detail? If you stick with one report, can you just note the report you are using and pull their historicals or do you have to always go to the filings?

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Comparable Analysis Definition

The most common way to value a company is through the use of comparable analysis. This method attempts to find a group of companies which are comparable to the target company and to work out a valuation based on what they are worth.

The idea is to look for companies in the same sector and with similar financial statistics (Price to Earnings, Book Value, Free Cash Flow, EBITDA etc) and then assume that the companies should be priced relatively similarly. Comparable analyses are frequently referred to as "comps."

The process for how to do a comparable analysis is as follows:

  • Find a selection of comparable companies
  • Choose and calculate the appropriate multiples for each company
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Writing an Equity Research Report- question on comps

cyoung33's picture
cyoung33
      ER
 
(Senior Monkey, 98
 
Points)
 on 9/24/11 at 6:50pm

First off I have a very stupid question that I need answered even if you don’t read the rest of my post. I know nothing about trading and stock indices and need to know, when creating a peer group for my comps, is it possible to use NASDAQ stocks as peers for a company traded on the NYSE, under ANY circumstances? Or is it completely inappropriate? I know foreign stocks are probably never appropriate, no matter how similar they are.

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Writing an Equity Research Report- question on comps

cyoung33's picture
cyoung33
      ER
 
(Senior Monkey, 98
 
Points)
 on 9/24/11 at 6:29pm

First off I have a very stupid question that I need answered even if you don’t read the rest of my post. I know nothing about trading and stock indices and need to know, when creating a peer group for my comps, is it possible to use NASDAQ stocks as peers for a company traded on the NYSE, under ANY circumstances? Or is it completely inappropriate? I know foreign stocks are probably never appropriate, no matter how similar they are.

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Identifying Turnaround Targets

Scrambles's picture
Scrambles
     
 
(Senior Monkey, 90
 
Points)
 on 5/24/11 at 11:10pm

I have a pretty limited data set where I need to identify potential turnaround targets based solely on: Sales, Sales growth, Net Income, NI growth, Total Assets, Stockholder Equity, Market Cap, EPS, Return to Investors, and # employees. After an initial sweep, more in-depth research will be done, but this is to narrow down a data set. What would be the most efficient and meaningful metrics and ratios that may indicate an underlying issue? Thanks in advance.

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Spreading comps outsourced to India

bIastoise's picture
bIastoise
     
 
(Senior Orangutan, 401
 
Points)
 on 4/23/11 at 12:14pm

for the firms where there's an India team working on the comps, do analysts only work on them when it's urgent/for a fairness opinion?

how accurate are the comps done by the outsourced team typically and how much time does the analyst need to spend checking them to make sure everything's right?

do you think at a certain point all the analytical work will be basically an outsourced Indian operation and the role of the analyst will be vastly diminished?

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Comp Spread for AAPL?

laxmonkey's picture
laxmonkey
      RE
 
(Orangutan, 285
 
Points)
 on 4/11/11 at 11:20pm

whats up fellas

jw if anyone would be willing to post a comp spread for Apple. Would be a huge help as i'm trying to do some research for one of my classes.. been building my own comp spread and want to make sure im doing it right/using the correct multiples

thanks

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I-Banking Shortucts

sherborn's picture
sherborn
     
 
(Monkey, 52
 
Points)
 on 12/23/10 at 11:44pm

Hi guys,

I started working a boutique recently, pretty small shop no official training, etc. To all the seasoned bankers out there- are there any shortcuts/tips you wish you knew when you started? For example, when it comes to spreading comps, it can take a while to compile all the data (other than linking stock info to CapIQ). Are there certain ways to minimize the time in gathering all the cash/ebitda/debt data from all the SEC reports? Any advice when it comes to prepping pitchbooks? Thanks in advance

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TEV / EBITDA vs. TEV / Sales multiples

NF0913's picture
NF0913
      IB
 
(Baboon, 134
 
Points)
 on 10/19/10 at 5:38pm

Hey guys,

Is it 'wrong' if my enterprise value based on the mean TEV / Sales multiple of the peer group is much much higher than my enterprise value based on the mean TEV / EBITDA multiple of the peer group?

What would be the main reasons for a huge difference (say about $200 mm difference between the two valuations for a company that does 162 mm in sales)?

Thanks for any help.

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Comps in a tough market

tth7's picture
tth7
      O
 
(Monkey, 49
 
Points)
 on 8/27/10 at 5:07pm

I was asked this question recently, and just replied with a BS answer.

1. How do you determine a true value using comparables when the market is so sluggish....i.e, multiples are depressed. This was an M&A banker working on sell-side advisory work.

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Standardized Modeling Software

fldksja's picture
fldksja
      O
 
(Monkey, 33
 
Points)
 on 7/29/10 at 9:47am

Based on the people I've talked to in RE, across the board everyone uses Argus for financial modeling/analysis.

Is there something like this for IB/PE?

If not, why not?

I'm guessing it's probably because banks are paying analysts to create the model so there is no reason to pay to subscribe to an Argus-like software, but I'd be interested to hear the thoughts from others.

Maybe I'm wrong and there is something out there.

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Transaction Comps

NA's picture
NA
      IB
 
(Baboon, 119
 
Points)
 on 4/22/10 at 12:13am

For transaction comps, when determining EV, Rev etc do we use target or acquiring co.

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Comps questions

tbcthk's picture
tbcthk
      IB
 
(Senior Baboon, 175
 
Points)
 on 4/6/10 at 6:38pm

I know this might be simple, but I am confused.

1. When you do transaction comps, does EV = purchase price? (assuming acquiring 100%). If not, what's the difference between public and transaction comps?

2. When we spread comps, do we use historical or projection data?

Thanks in advance!

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Debt position

NA's picture
NA
      IB
 
(Baboon, 119
 
Points)
 on 2/27/10 at 6:07pm

when taking the debt position of a company for comps do you what debt do you look at on the b/s. Do you look at the covertible debentures? Thanks

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Comps & Privates

gekko2's picture
gekko2
      IB
 
(Senior Baboon, 218
 
Points)
 on 12/27/09 at 1:16am

If a public company wants to acquire a private company, can you use other public comps as part of your valuation? I know a public firm will higher valued because of liquidity and transparency, but is there some discount you apply to public comparables so you can use them to see what a private firm should be valued at? Or can you just use the public comps without discounting price?

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DCF/Valuation Question

VineyardVines2011's picture
VineyardVines2011
      IB
 
(Senior Monkey, 70
 
Points)
 on 12/13/09 at 8:16pm

I had this question in an interview and I got it right, but my logic was a little off. Can someone clarify.

The interviewer asked "9 times out of 10, which method of valuation will produce the highest valuation (DCF vs. Public comps vs. transaction comps)?"

I understand why transaction comps produce higher valuations than public comps, but why do DCFs produce higher valuations than transaction comps?

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How to phrase 'spread lots of comps' on resume?

ammunition's picture
ammunition
      IB
 
(Senior Monkey, 69
 
Points)
 on 7/28/09 at 2:09am

Spreading comps is pretty much ALL I have done this summer. Unfortunately, my boutique firm doesn't have any deals going on at the moment, so I haven't had the opportunity to ask for modeling. How would you say 'spread comps' on your resume?

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Question on Comps

no homo's picture
no homo
      HF
 
 
(Orangutan, 266
 
Points)
 on 7/21/09 at 5:56am

I'm currently looking for comparable company information on a firm that makes a profit by offering other companies' services, and I'm confused as to where I should go to find comps.

The company offers their own money transfer system, cash advances for major credit cards, Western Union money transfers, Travelex money transfers, and AMEX and Thomas Cook traveler's cheques among a few other services.

Most companies in this arena appear to be private and/or fundamentally different.

How should I approach finding some comparables before I perform a DCF?

If it helps, my employer (middle market, overseas) has T1B access, but doesn't use CapIQ or Bloomberg.

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Comps Question

crazycanuck's picture
crazycanuck
      IB
 
(Chimp, 4
 
Points)
 on 5/2/09 at 2:58pm

Hey guys, new member here and a newbie in IB.

Just a quick question on comps involving stock options and shares outstanding.

Am I right in saying that if you take the number of shares outstanding from the 10Q as stated in the front of the report, then you may be double counting options that have been exercised since your option schedule is coming from the 10K?

I understand that some companies disclose exactly how many options are currently outstanding in the 10Q so you can make the adjustment to your option schedule, but that's not always the case.

Thus, I guess my question is do you take the # of shares outstanding as reported on the 10Q balance sheet instead of what's reported on the front page? That way you don't have to worry about double counting options?

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Pharma Comps/Precedents

iluvseamless's picture
iluvseamless
      IB
 
(Monkey, 32
 
Points)
 on 3/31/09 at 9:34pm

Hey,

Don't have banking resources available to me...just a student and wanted to know where I can find comps and precedents for pharmaceutical companies with transaction dates of 1998?

I'm trying to make a football field (dcf, precedents, comps) for a project at school. The most recent financial statements and the data built around the case are in 1998 for the sake of the consistency in the case study from year to year.

I have some resources through our online library portal but not sure what to tap into?

Help?

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practice spreading comps? anyone got spreadsheet?

tacwnoff99's picture
tacwnoff99
      IB
 
(Baboon, 143
 
Points)
 on 3/13/09 at 11:16pm

anyone got a spreadsheet so i can practice spreading comps?
thanks

also do most BB use excel 03 or 07.
thanks

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Doing 100+ Comps in a Few Days

jay-z's picture
jay-z
      IB
 
(Senior Monkey, 72
 
Points)
 on 12/31/08 at 7:32pm

Can you do 100+ quick and dirty comps within a few days if you pull the data straight from Reuters? This wouldn't be to send out to clients - more to get a rough idea of a few industry spaces.

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