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re: Portfolio Theory Part I...

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(Senior Orangutan, 416
 
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 on 11/11/12 at 3:40pm
Harry Markowitz

After reading through all of the comments from last week’s controversial posting I spent quite a bit of time this past week in attempting to better explain both the reasoning behind my accusations as opinions and the point in writing the article. It’s specifically in response towards Mr.Anderson, zacharydavid, and mikesswimn but I want to thank you all for you challenging comments.


Assumption of Risk-Aversion
I’m proposing that economic risk-aversion is one dimensional and that a person who invests in a safer certain sum over a potential higher riskier one also prefers more money to less which incentivizes risk-staking. Thus, not only are their risk-neutral but there risk-seeking investors, like performance-based arbitrageurs in Andrei Scheifer’s: Inefficient Markets? I argue that risk-seeking and loss-aversion can be mutually inclusive. Think about the risk premium, if a Markowitz portfolio is optimized for risk then should it not be constrained in its returns? In other words, this would not be a sufficient condition for risk-seekers (i.e. arbitrageurs) in my opinion and I think that this assumption defines market investment too restrictively.

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Portfolio Theory Part I: The Financial Strategy of Yesteryear

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GMngmt
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(Senior Orangutan, 416
 
Points)
 on 11/4/12 at 3:30pm
Harry Markowitz

Portfolio Theory is a construct of Harry M. Markowitz from the University of Chicago that economically models a risk-return adjusted optimal portfolio based upon two primary factors: risk and correlation. Sounds like a beautiful thing, right? WRONG! Textbook models are just that, textbook and are not enirely relevant outside of academe. They serve as restricted versions of actual market processes and I will argue against four of Markowitz's flawed assumptions. Also, despite quantum leaps in practical market theory over the last 60 years, some in the financial industry still apply this dusty-old model when managing their client’s money! Why, I can only suspect but read on to find out where the problem starts...

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Cholesky Decomposition in Vba help

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jmdude
      ST
 
(Orangutan, 301
 
Points)
 on 4/25/11 at 10:42am

Hey guys,

Has anyone done a Cholesky/ variance decomposition before? I am currently doing a project- the idea is to find out the correlation between different stock markets, incorporating directionality.

I know how to get the correlation like through normal regression methods, but am clueless about the directionality part.

Can anyone help me out at all?

Thanks,
JM

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Market Instruments Correlation

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the_red_baron
      ST
 
(Orangutan, 257
 
Points)
 on 12/28/10 at 6:45am

I have math and CS background, but my finance knowledge is limited. I often encounter claims about correlation of market instruments and various phenomena(ex. higher inflation means cheaper bonds, higher interest rates mean lower stock prices, etc). I was wondering if there is any concise and precise listing of such correlations with the reasoning behind them. I feel that such a resource would strengthen my finance intuition and show me how to think about these things.
Thanks

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Correlation

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EarTotheStreet
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(Senior Baboon, 237
 
Points)
 on 10/14/10 at 11:16am

Any paper or text I read always says to take log return(or just a return) of 2 assets you want to correlate. I am correlating CL and HO and my manager wants me to use Price Level correlations(in other words just straight correl() on the prices).

Anyone understand this rationale?

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Give Me Bread or Give Me Death

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Midas Mulligan Magoo
     
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 5,167
 
Points)
 on 8/3/10 at 12:00pm
jimrogers

I have always been a big fan of Jim Rogers. His old school gentleman style, with the bow tie and the folksy drawl, always seems to confound the "savy types". I often imagine what an odd couple he and Soros must have made back in the late 60's/early 70's.

For several years now Mr. Rogers has been telling anyone who will or will not listen about the coming commodity bubble. Specifically, in regards to the basic necessities of life. While many of us think of only gold, oil and natural gas, the commodity landscape covers such daily necessities as bread and corn. Though not as volatile in the short term, they are the true indicators over the long haul.

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correlation trading

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imperialeco
      IB
 
(Chimp, 4
 
Points)
 on 6/29/09 at 7:04pm

hi,

i'm just wondering, what do traders actually do on a correlation trading desk? how do they trade correlation? what is the correlation between? who are the clients? etc.

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How can I do this one excel?

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mack387
     
 
(Senior Orangutan, 411
 
Points)
 on 5/16/09 at 9:25pm

So essentially what i want to do...i get a correlation analysis of 20 different stocks / industries to each other..with the daily prices for the past 10 years.....whats the best software / or method of doing this?....can this be done on excel? or is reuters or another software better for this? ...also...whats a good database to get the stock prices in a nice downloadable excel file?....and if i am using excel...is there anyway to build a macro that automates the process of having to manually do a correlation for each two rows of data prices for the past 10 years?.....any feedback is greatly appreciated..thanks

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ARCH/GARCH Models in Practice

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m0nk3y
      IB
 
(Monkey, 42
 
Points)
 on 11/20/08 at 1:31am

Hi Guys,

To all the quantitative traders out there (or, hell, anyone who knows about this stuff): do you guys actually use ARCH or GARCH models (and variations thereof, such as MGARCH, TARCH, etc) on the desk and to confirm or initiate investment ideas?
I'm studying them right now and wonder how practical they really are and how well they perform empirically. If not those, then what do you use to model/"predict" volatility and/or correlation?

Thanks for the help.

m0nk3y

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