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exit opportunities
 

"Survive 2 years as an ibanking analyst and you can do anything you want afterwards"

pryan2016's picture
pryan2016
     
 
(Senior Monkey, 93
 
Points)
 on 4/27/13 at 12:38pm

Does this saying only apply if you get into Goldman, JPM, Morgan Stanley, etc.? Or does it apply to the middle market banks as well?

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Middle Market IBD marketability

pryan2016's picture
pryan2016
     
 
(Senior Monkey, 93
 
Points)
 on 4/25/13 at 10:16pm

How good are the middle market exit opportunities really? I've heard that having investment banking on your resume early is a strong path to getting into PE/HF later on. Does this only apply to the Bulge brackets? How much would I differentiate myself by having MM IBD while applying to other jobs later?

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Top Tier Sellsword Looking for advice.

Bronn's picture
Bronn
      HF
 
(Chimp, 5
 
Points)
 on 3/21/13 at 2:07am

Hello all,

I'm Bronn, and I went to a small college you've probably never heard of. Been working for a Top Tier House (think Lannister/Tyrell/Baratheon) doing acquisitions for about 3 years now. Alas, the hostile takeover world is starting to get to me, however, and I'm looking to switch it up. I was thinking of relocating to Winterfell, but its so bloody cold up there, and I don't think my rheumatoid arthritis can handle it. Plus, all the major players up there are going through massive layoffs, so not sure of who to reach out to. The only place I've heard that is hiring aggressively is over at Castle Black, and I hear the division manager up there is a real Bastard. Trying to go for the low hanging fruit, if you will.

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FactSet and Bloomberg Careers

streetwannabe's picture
streetwannabe
     
 
(King Kong, 1,320
 
Points)
 on 1/22/13 at 8:25am

Hey everyone,

Just curious about these companies. What are the opportunities for people that used to work for these firms? I know that FactSet has you take the Series 7 for their Research/Prod. Dev. positions. I'm waiting to hear back for an interview and don't hear much about them on this website.

Thought I'd add Bloomberg too, since it is a comparable company for entry level positions (I presume).

Thanks for any insight!

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BankorBust's picture
BankorBust
     
 
(Senior Baboon, 197
 
Points)
 on 1/13/13 at 7:22pm

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First foray into finance, post-MBA IB Associate. Exit opps?

LWNagel's picture
LWNagel
     
 
(Monkey, 58
 
Points)
 on 1/7/13 at 2:52pm

Let us assume that a given person worked in minerals for a few years after undergrad and became a manager, and then went to a top MBA. This person then had an MBA internship at a bank and worked as an associate afterwards, in natural resources, at said bank.

Exit opportunities from there? Still able to get into PE/VC for natural resources or already relegated to only IB? Would said person have to go back into minerals as a senior manager, get to C level, and then network in?

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S&T Exit Opps

cujo.cabbie's picture
cujo.cabbie
     
 
(Orangutan, 258
 
Points)
 on 12/19/12 at 6:15pm

Are the exit opps for people working in Sales & Trading (particularly Trading) really that limited?

I have been networking and some bankers to into trading, former traders go into the capital markets and a few to into research and even medical science!

When I read several WSO posts about exit opps - and M&I - it seemed like banking (particularly IBD) provided the best exit opps which is one of the main reasons why I chose to aim for IBD. However I think I fit S&T better but am hesitant to swap over because although short term it seems great - Im sticking to IBD for the long term exit opportunity reason.

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Hedge FOF--am I doomed? exit opps

GoodElevators's picture
GoodElevators
      AM
 
(Senior Chimp, 24
 
Points)
 on 12/18/12 at 3:51am

Hello all,

I am currently a college senior going to a BB Hedge FOF next year. Did not know much about finance originally and became a summer at this FOF. this fall i recruited but did not have much luck getting other jobs (many firms thought my fof summer experience was not good enough for full-time work in i-bank, pe, hf, etc), so i just signed w/ the bb fof since i didnt want to be unemployed.

It seems that I would not be developing any transferable skill set in a hedge fof. Does this mean that I am doomed for the future if I want to move to banking/pe/hf?

what should i do to help me move out of the fof industry quickly into some other kind of financial work that is more analytical or valuation-based? thinking again banking/pe/hf/trading.

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Typical Exit Opportunities at Each Bank

ToeDrag's picture
ToeDrag
     
 
(Monkey, 47
 
Points)
 on 12/11/12 at 4:18pm

Of course, this varies by group and performance. But generally speaking, what types of places (prestige, size of company) do these banks send their analysts? Any specific examples of placements would be helpful as well.

GS, MS, Lazard, Deutsche, Credit Suisse, JPM, Moelis, Jefferies, BAML, Perella Weinberg.

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Which RE position/track gives one the most exit opportunities, least pigeon-holed?

Jaime_Lannister's picture
Jaime_Lannister
     
 
(Chimp, 7
 
Points)
 on 12/9/12 at 7:01pm

Which entry level real estate position will give one the most real estate related job options after 1-2 years of work (e.g., RE PE Analyst, RE IB, Development Manager, RE Research, etc).

And, which category provides the most mobility (retail, office, industrial, residential, etc)?

Thanks in advance guys.

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Exit Opportunities for Boutique Valuation Firm?

allureofthegame's picture
allureofthegame
     
 
(Chimp, 13
 
Points)
 on 12/8/12 at 6:23pm

I received an offer from a boutique valuation firm called Anvil Advisors that specializes in valuations for technology start-ups and hedge funds. While I would likely learn a lot about valuation, I'm concerned about the exit opportunities, especially considering that since firm is so small, I would not have much chance for networking. Thoughts?

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Interviewing for exit opps while working in Equity Research - How?

Patient Skeptic's picture
Patient Skeptic
     
 
(Monkey, 55
 
Points)
 on 11/23/12 at 12:52pm

I had a question regarding interviewing while still working in equity research (or credit for that matter - hours/job not that different at the end of the day).

Let's say I want to make a move from my current job as an ER analyst to something else - me specifically, the buyside, but this question would hold for corp dev roles, MBA interviews, and pretty much anything else as well.

How do you find the time to actually go interview? I'm not saying reaching out to headhunters/networking in general - I am asking how do you get OUT of the office during the day to interview? As many people know, you are TIED to your desk during the day in ER.

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Tax or Audit Better for Financial Regulation

Higheck123's picture
Higheck123
     
 
(Senior Orangutan, 497
 
Points)
 on 11/20/12 at 6:32am

Pretty straight forward; which position would look better when submitting applications for full-time financial regulation/compliance type jobs? I know it is kind of a broad question but generally speaking, is one more relevant than the other? I was thinking tax because of the research & analysis you do but I may be wrong.

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Something To Think About

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xhongxkongx
     
 
(Monkey, 52
 
Points)
 on 11/17/12 at 12:25pm
The other road

I recently came across this video and until now I decided to share it with you guys. It has really made me think about the things I do, why I do them, whether or not I really should be doing these things that I am doing and to what extent to they matter to me and to the ones around me.

Below is the youtube video of Dr. Richard Teo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umLkfADe17s

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Sales and Trading to Corporate/Business Development

donalduck's picture
donalduck
      EN
 
(Chimp, 7
 
Points)
 on 11/14/12 at 11:44pm

Hi,

I am currently approaching end of my 2 year analyst program within Sales and Trading at a BB - currently within sales

I've decided that banking/s&t isn't something I see myself doing after this program. I would like to work for a corporate within strategy. I'm not that set on it being a large/small company but more focused on the group.

I'm not sure how to go about recruiting for this and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions or ideas about next steps for someone in my position.

Thanks.

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Exit Opportunities at Regional Offices

EnergyAlberta's picture
EnergyAlberta
      IB
 
(Baboon, 139
 
Points)
 on 11/13/12 at 7:30am
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Though the standard path for the junior on Wall Street may be changing, many still dream of the presumed greener pastures of private equity or buyside. But for those of us in regional offices, the path might not be as clearly laid out.

The city where I work, Calgary, Alberta, is developing a strong financial career setting, but it still and likely will always lack a lot of private equity or buyside opportunities. So for those of us in the regional offices without a clear path to exit opportunities what are the alternatives? For those of you who have gone through this, what did you move to and how did you get there? For the other readers, what would you recommend?

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Years as I-banker for hedge fund consideration

saints2009's picture
saints2009
      IB
 
(Senior Baboon, 211
 
Points)
 on 11/3/12 at 10:42am

I've been told a lot that hedge fund work is a good exit opportunity after investment banking. How long does it usually take for hedge fund recruiters to notice you? What type of resume should you establish? Does it depend on the situation?

Also, how is the pay at hedge funds as you work more?

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Exit Opportunities: Consulting vs. Banking

BankingWaffle's picture
BankingWaffle
      IB
 
(Senior Baboon, 242
 
Points)
 on 10/24/12 at 1:59am

I'm lucky enough to be currently sitting on two offers: one from a top consulting shop (McKinsey / Bain) and one from a MM bank (Stifel, Montgomery).

If I'm looking to break into private equity or possibly venture capital (growth equity division) in the future, which job would give better exit opportunities?

I'm leaning towards the consulting gig thanks to the preftige, but also due to the fact that if I do some PE due diligence work I probably won't be screwed when it comes to breaking into PE/VC. Please correct me if I'm totally off.

Insights please! Thanks! Much appreciated!

BankingWaffle

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Career questions (1st year at unversity)

Pedestrian's picture
Pedestrian
     
 
(Chimp, 4
 
Points)
 on 9/23/12 at 1:18pm

lazy but atleast moderately intelligent bum searching for a career.

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Returning to old company post MBA

angelinajolie's picture
angelinajolie
     
 
(Monkey, 63
 
Points)
 on 9/11/12 at 1:00am
returning to old comp.jpg

Hello all!

Just wanted to gauge some opinions here, what do you guys think about returning to your old company post-mba? this is assuming that youre not being sponsored (MBB style) or having your company pay for it in any other way (part time or otherwise).

Will you be as valued as a freshly minted MBA student would be? Would you be less valuable because youve been there before and youre adding nothing new? would you be more vauable cause youve been there before and already know the system?

Any thoughts/experiences/opinions?

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Advice for Incoming 1st Yr Analyst at BB - Breaking into PE

non-target BB Banker's picture
non-target BB Banker
      IB
 
(Baboon, 127
 
Points)
 on 9/7/12 at 2:14pm

Wondering what's your advice for incoming 1st Year Analysts at BB who want to break into big PE after several years in banking?

I am graduating this Dec and will have half a year before I start to work full time. Some of plans I could take after I graduate are:

1. PE internship (I think I have shot with some big PE ships, like TPG and Carclyle, but the work will be shitty same as the pay...)
2. SWF (think of Temasek and QIA, possible for me as well)
3. CFA (in case I change my mind and want to to hedge fund several years down the road?)
4. Self-study modelling course (since it will be so important for the PE interview?)
5. Nothing...travel and enjoy myself (this is def part of my plan, but I am seriously not plan to do that for 6 months...)

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Financial Instruments, Structured Products and Real Estate (FSR) with PwC exit opportunities

kaiseracc's picture
kaiseracc
     
 
(Chimp, 12
 
Points)
 on 9/6/12 at 12:11am

I'm interviewing with PwC's Financial Instruments, Structured Products and Real Estate (FSR) group and I was wondering if anyone knows anything about the group. Specifically, what type of exit opportunities will this give me?

Thanks for the help!

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Would You Make The Move to Politics After Finance?

Thomas Ausart's picture
Thomas Ausart
      CF
 
 
(Baboon, 149
 
Points)
 on 8/13/12 at 5:30am
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I don't know if a lot of you considered it, but would you like to move to politics after a career in finance?

I mean we're all great at office politics by now but would you be interested in playing the big game? Finance is fast-paced, challenging and interesting but it can only keeps you interested for so long because closing a deal is closing a deal if you're in IB and planning sessions tend to look the same after 3 or 4 of them if you're in Corporate Finance.

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Mid-Game/End-Game of Banking

philosophizingphilosoraptor's picture
philosophizingp...
     
 
(Senior Baboon, 175
 
Points)
 on 7/16/12 at 5:59pm

Fellow monkeys,

There are a lot of posts that go into great deal describing the analyst-to-associate transition, as well as the exit opps to buyside. My question is, what happens after that? After 10 years in IB/PE/HF, where does one find oneself?

What are people doing in their 30s, 40s and 50s? After they become associates, do they all progress to higher IB levels (VP, MD)? If they are in buyside, do they progress or stay in the same spots?

Hypothetically speaking, a 100-analyst class enters a BB IBD firm. Twenty/thirty years later, what are their positions and jobs?

Thanks..

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Is it still what it used to be?

GBB_19NHS's picture
GBB_19NHS
      IB
 
 
(Gorilla, 671
 
Points)
 on 7/9/12 at 8:30pm
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Bonus time is just around the corner and it seems that those voices about who gets how much at which bank are vanishing. People start to realise that huge bonus payments are outdated and that bonus payments decrease year by year (possibly partly offset by higher base salaries etc.) and that in the end the money is merely worth the effort. Surely most juniors believe in exit opportunities and thrive towards excellent job prospects following their banking stint but the general sentiment of staying on board seems even less presence nowadays than ever before. I hardly meet anybody who believes in this industry anymore and most people plan their exit and follow up job meticulously.

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Megafund vs. MM Private Equity

GBB_19NHS's picture
GBB_19NHS
      IB
 
 
(Gorilla, 671
 
Points)
 on 7/2/12 at 8:30pm
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Approaching the end of the year once again there are quite a few discussions and rumours floating around between analysts in the city. Who is going where, what opportunities are people looking at and what are other analysts considering a good move after your analyst stint.

Given the changing environment some of the larger PE firms went public and are now becoming more and more integrated in terms of product offering. It seems that smaller funds have a lot more to offer than their larger counterparts in multiple aspects. This starts with advancement opportunities, goes through pay, deal exposure, responsibility etc.

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Credit Risk Management - Exit opportunities?

BusinessGreek's picture
BusinessGreek
      CS
 
(Baboon, 130
 
Points)
 on 5/4/12 at 9:14am

Happy Friday everyone-

I'm contemplating a change from my current position, looking at some internal opportunities as I enjoy the culture / people at the bulge bracket bank I work for. That said, I have a short list of target positions I'm interested in (primarily Capital Markets and Research positions).

However, someone I spoke with pointed me in the direction of credit risk, i.e., managing the bank's exposure to a client and managing the credit relationship. This group sits within the investment bank, but is known to be less intense hours-wise, correspondingly less lucrative, but I'm curious- any informed members care to opine on possible exit opportunities with a skillset analyzing credit?

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Hedge Fund Accountant- Exit opps/Future...

RFTort's picture
RFTort
      HF
 
(Chimp, 15
 
Points)
 on 4/19/12 at 12:07pm

Greetings all- I wanted to hopefully receieve some feedback from who ever is willing to help regarding my current role and future. Thanks in advance, it is much appreiciated!!

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Consulting (boutique - Miami) vs. PWM (BB - NYC)

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Andrew.Davis.NY
     
 
(Senior Chimp, 22
 
Points)
 on 4/5/12 at 11:42pm

OK monkeys: What do you consider best for a recent accounting grad (semi-target) - Comsulting at a boutique shop in Miami or PWM at a BB in NYC.

Which opportunity provides the better experience for exit ops? (PE/HF/Top MBA)

My passion is start a HF (eventually). I am also taking the CFA and determined to earn the designation.

I am currently interning in PWM and find it not challenging and somewhat secretarial. But, I fear that if I go the consulting path, I am further away from my passion of asset management.

Any advice?

Thanks!

-Drewey from St. Louis

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Valuations Exit Opportunities?

BankerC159's picture
BankerC159
      CF
 
(Senior Monkey, 95
 
Points)
 on 2/21/12 at 8:05pm

Hey guys,

I've been working at a valuations firm and was wondering what my exit opportunities down the road would be. Some of the work I've been doing are:
Business Enterprise Valuations
Purchase Price Allocations
Goodwill Impairment Testing
Derivatives (options - PWERM, Black Scholes)
Fairness Opinion & Solvency
A little bankruptcy and restructuring work.

I moved from a back office position at a BB to this valuations firm.

I know moving to a top notch PE firm or IBD is out of the question, but I was hoping a boutique PE IBD HF, management consulting firms, or strategy type positions would take a look at me.

Anyways, your thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

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