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Antifragile: Things That Gain From Disorder

GMngmt's picture
GMngmt
      O
 
(Senior Orangutan, 410
 
Points)
 on 3/31/13 at 4:40pm
Nassim Nicholas Taleb

Nassim Nicholas Taleb's [NNT] latest book, Antifragility discusses how institutions can survive through chaos and diversity. In a lengthy interview with Reason's Nick Gillespie he indirectly promotes capitalism and simplifies his message by saying, "...I want errors to be multiplied, that's it." He then goes on to elaborate the overall theme of his book and relates it to banking finance, monetary policy, options theory, etc. So read on for my summary and to see the full interview as he shake's up the WS establishment yet again...

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How do private sector recruiters view public service?

Volo's picture
Volo
      O
 
(Monkey, 40
 
Points)
 on 3/25/13 at 1:00pm
ZzZz

I'm curious about what the private sector thinks of the general support roles within public service.

As a Business Analyst in the federal government for the past year, I find my work laughable in terms of challenge and required work ethic. At this point, I've learned everything I could and am just here for the pay, short work hours and relaxed environment.

I'm definitely being underutilized and it is slightly depressing especially since it's not for lack of trying to take on more interesting work. I can honestly feel my brain atrophy from the boredom. I keep busy with extracurricular responsibilities and studying on the side. Fortunately I'm leaving soon to return to school and complete my degree next year.

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THE GOVERNMENT

Jared Dillian's picture
Jared Dillian
      ST
 
 
(Senior Baboon, 208
 
Points)
 on 1/15/13 at 12:30pm
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This is a syndication from Jared's Daily Dirtnap daily market newsletter. WSO readers qualify for a $100 discount...just email [email protected] and mention "WSO Monkey Discount" You can follow Jared on twitter at @dailydirtnap

People go back and forth on this: government is too big, government is too small. Well, if there is one thing that most people on Wall Street have in common, it is that almost none of them have worked in government. I have. I have an opinion on the size of government, for sure, but at least mine is an educated one.

So let me tell you a couple of government stories, leaving aside all the ones from the Coast Guard Academy (or maybe we will get to those later). So I graduate from the Academy, and I go to a ship. A white one. White ones do law enforcement. I was stationed in the Pacific Northwest. There are a lot of fish in the Pacific Northwest. At least, there used to be a lot of fish. Maybe we will get to that, too.

So I report aboard the cutter, and the first thing they do is make me Weapons Officer. I have a gunner’s mate working for me. Before long, he is scooped up by CGIS (yes, like NCIS) for being a bigamist. Well, it is not as bad as it sounds. He got drunk and got married, a second time, in a blackout.

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Government and corporate finance

pitbul13's picture
pitbul13
     
 
(Senior Baboon, 201
 
Points)
 on 9/4/12 at 9:40am

So I found a job posting for a Government and corporate finance fixed income analyst position.

The job description gives very little information. Have you had any experience with this type of job? If so, what is it exactly? What do you do?

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Finance related careers in the government

Dhanam's picture
Dhanam
      IB
 
(Monkey, 62
 
Points)
 on 8/25/12 at 1:36am

I recently read an interesting interview/post on mergers and inquisitions about a person who worked in a European (eastern European I think) Ministry of Finance.

Before I entered undergrad I was a nerdy obsessed high schooler with dreams of making the big bucks on Wall Street. I've slowly come to realize that perhaps 100+ hour workweeks in a shrinking industry aren't all that fun, but at the same time I actually found out I genuinely enjoy reading and learning about economics and the financial markets. Enough to pass up that easy A world cultures class for one on macroeconomics.

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Who else got half a day? I

blastoise's picture
blastoise
      O
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 4,380
 
Points)
 on 5/25/12 at 1:49pm

Gov't employees did <3

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Going Postal

Addinator's picture
Addinator
      ST
 
 
(Senior Gorilla, 928
 
Points)
 on 5/9/12 at 4:30pm
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Ah, the Post Office. Talk about a massive entity desperately trying to justify it's existence. All I get in my mailbox nowadays is 0% credit card offers, flyers, packs of cupons and now I've even gotten nigerian scams. They must be getting pretty desperate. Frankly, the only thing I get worth anything in the mail are birthday or Christmas cards containing money. The cost of all this wonderful mail? Only $18.2 Billion dollars in losses a year by 2015.

The agency was recently poised to begin finally cutting back, however backlash from rural areas has caused it to change it's stance.

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Unpaid internship for 6 months

icanfly's picture
icanfly
     
 
(Chimp, 3
 
Points)
 on 5/8/12 at 5:31am

I am graduating this year and I've been accepted in a top MSc program in Europe - think HEC/SSE/Bocconi. However, I have only 2 months of work experience in my local government. Thus, I believe I'll benefit if I get more work experience before I enrol in the MSc. I have the option of going back to the same government department where I worked before. The job is really interesting and sounds great on a CV. The department is the sole contact between the country and the World Bank and IMF. They meet foreign representatives when they visit the country, go on meetings with officials abroad, negotiate contracts, etc. However, there are no full time positions in the department - in fact someone has to die to get an opening there.

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Governments and Value III: Bribery, Corruption and other "Dark" Costs

Aswath Damodaran's picture
Aswath Damodaran
     
 
 
(Gorilla, 579
 
Points)
 on 5/2/12 at 1:00pm
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In this last post on the effects of government on valuations, I want to return to the value destructive effects that corruption, bribery and other "illegal" side-payments to government officials can have on value.

In many countries, business people know that to keep doing business, they have to grease palms and provide “gratuities” to the gatekeepers of officialdom. A spate of news stories in the last few weeks should alert us all to the reality that the problem is not only still prevalent but that companies everywhere are exposed to its costs.

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Governments and Value II: Subsidies and Value

Aswath Damodaran's picture
Aswath Damodaran
     
 
 
(Gorilla, 579
 
Points)
 on 4/27/12 at 7:30pm
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In my last post, I looked at the negative effects on equity value of the threat of government expropriation (nationalization). In this one, I want to focus on the more benign (and perhaps positive) impact that governments can have the values of some companies, through subsidies in one of many forms: providing or facilitating below-market rate financing, special tax benefits, revenues or price supports and even forcing competitors to provide direct benefits to a subsidized entity.

Note that my intent in this post is not to examine the wisdom of these subsidies and whether governments should be tilting the playing field. While I do have strong views on the topic (and you can guess what they are from the subtext), I want to focus on the mechanics of how best to value businesses that benefit from these subsidies. This post was, in part, triggered by the recent news story on First Solar, where the company announced its intent to both scale back its operations and return a $30 million subsidy it had received from the German government.

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Inattention to Detail

D M's picture
D M
      O
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 4,814
 
Points)
 on 4/12/12 at 1:35pm

You can't get a job with a typo in your resume, but you can put out an official government document with a typo in it. Fail.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/washington-...

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Government caused the Recession?

spartan119's picture
spartan119
      IB
 
(Monkey, 43
 
Points)
 on 1/31/12 at 8:23pm

I've read a lot over the past few years about how government policies that supported the notion that "everyone deserved to own a home" had a hand in causing the eventual housing bubble and the subsequent economic collapse of '08.

What are some of the policies that directly supported this idea and do you guys know of any evidence that directly implicates these policies as a cause of the crisis?

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Financial Analyst position for the government.....

Bretton James's picture
Bretton James
     
 
(Senior Chimp, 26
 
Points)
 on 1/5/12 at 8:47pm

I've recently accepted a position working as a financial analyst for a government contractor company in Washington DC.

The job encompasses mostly budgetary/accounting management; it has great hours, decent health benefits, solid pay w/ OT compensation, and what seems to be friendly co-workers.

My question is, does anyone on this forum have experience in this sector?

- Bretton

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Breaking into Consulting Chances: Gov't to Business

Kenshinsan's picture
Kenshinsan
     
 
(Chimp, 4
 
Points)
 on 11/29/11 at 3:50am

Hello WSO,

I'm a long time lurker here, so I know how informative (and honest) the community is, and as a result I was wondering if a few of you would be able to give me some advice on my chances of breaking into consulting and/or recommended another course of action to position me for a career in consulting.

School: Big 10 State School (non-target)
Major: International Relations
Year: Senior
GPA: 3.2 Major GPA: 3.4
Taking GMAT in February
Experiences:

Studied Economics at the University of London for a semester
Spent a year in Japan studying Japanese language and culture
Internship with a European Parliament - Working on economic issues/research

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Gas Prices

KingLouieVI's picture
KingLouieVI
     
 
(Chimp, 6
 
Points)
 on 7/7/11 at 4:29pm

How can the Government pass laws that allow them to excessively tax foreign luxury car companies based on mpg? If I want to buy a sick Porsche or Range Rover i don't want to pay extra because the government can't compete with them. Eventually they might choose not to export to America leaving us to drive boring plain cars like the South Koreans are forced to do. There you are cool if you drive a pink car(Yes, somehow that made front page of the WSJ).

THOUGHTS?.....

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How is Government Experience viewed on Wall Street?

aisixerdude03's picture
aisixerdude03
      IB
 
(Monkey, 35
 
Points)
 on 5/31/11 at 1:22pm
Paulson / Obama

Clearly many of the top executives at various firms have ties and a past history in Washington, but what about students currently in school (u-grad or mba) or others trying to break into this industry with this sort of experience. Is there a private sector prejudice against the public sector in that for-profit enterprises have much to learn from the way our government works?

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Bank Examiner--Transferrable Skills?

peak07's picture
peak07
      O
 
(Chimp, 2
 
Points)
 on 5/27/11 at 3:29pm

A family friend encouraged me to apply for a state-level Bank Examiner position at the agency where he works. It seems like a good opportunity, but I'm on the fence. I work in the government now and am concerned it may permanently lock me into a government career.

I was wondering, how valuable to private-sector employers is the the experience and training that bank examiners accumulate?

What kinds of private sector jobs do a bank examiner's experience transfer to?

How long must one work as a bank examiner before he/she becomes valuable to other employers?

Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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Public Debt - Public policy or Macroeconomics?

SpanishBuzz's picture
SpanishBuzz
     
 
(Senior Baboon, 198
 
Points)
 on 5/23/11 at 8:59pm

When you consider the public debt, do you regard it as a public policy issue or macroeconomic issue?

Sorry I was asked this question in class today and I made a convincing argument for it being a economic issue but I was told I was wrong.

May not be the best place to ask this question but you guys seem an intelligent bunch!

Thanks

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Lateral from Government Institutions

Svensken's picture
Svensken
      IB
 
(Chimp, 2
 
Points)
 on 3/6/11 at 8:37pm

What are the opportunities to lateral into banking or come in at the associate level (after an MBA) for individuals who have done prestigious, industry related work in the federal government straight after undergrad?

(think something along the line of Treasury Department, SEC, Senate Finance Committee, Senate Banking/Housing/Urban Development, or relevant work in the WH)

Thanks

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Taking the money out of politics, or, publicly financing elections

TheKing's picture
TheKing
      O
 
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 5,141
 
Points)
 on 3/5/11 at 5:11pm

Alright, I'm sure some people will flame this view. But, whatever. In short:

I think the biggest problem that affects our government from doing a good job governing the nation and creating sound policies and laws is the influence of special interests groups' money and the politician's seeming desire to get elected for the sake of getting elected again.

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200 Years of U.S. Treasury Yields - Short the 30-Year, Ticker: TMV

BankingRUs9's picture
BankingRUs9
      IB
 
(Senior Orangutan, 471
 
Points)
 on 3/4/11 at 1:59am
200-YEARS-US-GOVT-BONDS.png

The Fed increased the Federal Debt Ceiling dozens of times over the past year, and it seems like it is not over for the Bernank. The Fed's balance has been growing every single day as he pumps the economy with more liquidity. Here is a link to the NY Fed's POMO schedule: http://www.newyorkfed.org/markets/tot_operation_sc....

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State Senators 'fleeing the state'

cartman's picture
cartman
      IB
 
 
(Senior Gorilla, 841
 
Points)
 on 3/1/11 at 12:07am
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Wis. governor to outline intentions in budget

So I've been blind for a week so I couldn't do much reading... and when I started browsing through various news sites I saw this article and it caught my eye.

The few tidbits that really confused me:

"With the union rights proposal stuck in a legislative stalemate thanks to runaway Senate Democrats..."

"Sen. Jon Erpenbach, one of the 14 Democrats who fled to Illinois..."

"Erpenbach and other Democrats who fled say Walker's unwillingness to deal motivates them to stay away. "

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Gov't Shutdowns

EarTotheStreet's picture
EarTotheStreet
      ST
 
(Senior Baboon, 237
 
Points)
 on 2/27/11 at 10:07am

March 4th is the deadline for the budget to be agreed upon. If we have a shutdown of the govt as we did in 1995 under Clinton how does this affect the markets. Oil? SP? Currencies?

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Banks forced to pay for reductions in loans?

invictus's picture
invictus
      IA
 
(Monkey, 53
 
Points)
 on 2/24/11 at 9:31am

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100014240527487038...

Pretty insane stuff. Going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

Thoughts?

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WSO: "Government" regulation

Babyj18777's picture
Babyj18777
      O
 
(Orangutan, 283
 
Points)
 on 1/2/11 at 8:43am

Hey has anyone else noticed an increasing amount of big brother activity on this site? Lately I've been trying to quote people and for some reason I end up triggering the spam filter.

Worse still, I try to call someone on their stupidity in a mildly insulting way, and my comment needs to be examined by a MODERATOR before it's posted.

A moderator. Really? I thought this was WSO, the most pro-capitalism forum on the WWW. Is the site, like America, turning towards *gasp* Socialism? Are the silver banana leaders colluding to stamp out competition in the monkey marketplace?

Is Patrick the new Obama?

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Economics of the United States

JimYoungJr's picture
JimYoungJr
      IB
 
(Monkey, 51
 
Points)
 on 12/28/10 at 12:49pm

This is a repost of a comment but I think it warrants further consideration:

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Breaking Into Investment Banking From Government Sector

slim_ibd_shady's picture
slim_ibd_shady
      O
 
(Senior Baboon, 190
 
Points)
 on 11/21/10 at 9:56am

I was wondering, for those professionals who switch over to GS, if they come from a federal background, how easy is it to break into investment banking on Wall Street. We know popular figures such as Hank Paulson, who used to be an employee of GS, got picked for a job with the fed. But what about the other way around? Would GS like or fear of potential applicants who have a federal background?

The reason I ask is because I was thinking if I could break into investment banking by taking this route of joining any govt department and taking on any job -> apply to FDIC after a couple of years of experience -> then eventually joining GS, that is if GS likes people that come from FDIC

What do you think?

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Hourly Pay: PE, HF, VC, banking, strat consulting, IT consulting, gov contracting

gyrostylez's picture
gyrostylez
      CO
 
(Chimp, 8
 
Points)
 on 11/18/10 at 12:12pm

Which field has the highest hourly pay?

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Shorting the US government

Luke709's picture
Luke709
     
 
(Chimp, 6
 
Points)
 on 11/10/10 at 3:12pm

Social Security reached its tipping point and is in the red, socialized healthcare has been enacted, there are long-term inflationary pressures, and the deficit is huge. Any ideas for shorting the U.S. government?
- US Treasuries, stips, etc.
- Companies that service the government (any specific ones?)

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So what about Timmy?

Jorgé's picture
Jorgé
     
 
(Neanderthal, 2,182
 
Points)
 on 11/4/10 at 8:46pm
Timayy!

Today is undoubtedly Benny Bernanke’s day. He knew it when he woke up this morning; you and I knew it when the markets soared.

Slapping on his white three-fingered gloves and donning his wizard hat, Benny climbed on top of his tower and with a single flick of his magic wand, sent markets worldwide up $1.7 trillion. Traders cheered, the administration seemed happy, the dollar is dead, and bubbles are expanding.

Consequences of Bentasia aside, he’s kind of a hero today.

But what about Timmy?

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