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Bernard L. Madoff summer interns/analysts

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RodneyBro20
     
 
(Baboon, 109
 
Points)
 on 2/12/13 at 12:49pm

what ever happened to these kids? Obviously I hope the ones who may have knowingly helped the scam are rotting, but what about the innocent students looking for experience with what was previously thought to be a reputable firm, who simply got the coffee, copied the papers, etc.? I'd imagine some of them probably went to elite schools, as once Madoff was a revered "hedge fund manager" (as seen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auSfaavHDXQ).

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Happy Ponzi-versary!

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mikesswimn
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(Senior Gorilla, 863
 
Points)
 on 12/11/12 at 11:00am
Huge dick

Morning monkeys,

Today marks the 4th anniversary of the Bernie Madoff investment scandal that shocked everyone on Wall St. as well as those at the SEC who wasn't too busy watching porn. Perhaps that's unfair, obviously the SEC does more than watch redtube all day because they investigated Madoff several times. Including an investigation of fraud in 2006 (which concluded in 2007) where they found no evidence despite having already been given the correct answer by Harry Markopolos.

Nevertheless, on the fourth anniversary of the scandal, Yahoo! Finance offers some advice to those who want to avoid ponzi schemes. Frankly, I find their list a bit wanting, so I thought I'd pose the question to all you monkeys out there:

How would you avoid a ponzi scheme?

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Allen Standford to spend 110 years in jail

Do what I gotta do's picture
Do what I gotta do
     
 
(Monkey, 53
 
Points)
 on 6/14/12 at 2:44pm

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/14/us-stanf...

Oh my.. 110 years sentence.
What good is all that money now?

I always find it funny when someone's sentence to more than human beings' life span.

Quote: Prosecutors had asked for a 230-year sentence, arguing in court papers that Stanford's crime was "one of the most egregious frauds in history."

This is a gem. What's the damn difference between 230 and 110 yesrs in jail? LOL

Worse than Madoff, said one of the victims.

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Arthur Nadel Dies in Prison

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Edmundo Braverman
      ST
 
 
(Human, 14,319
 
Points)
 on 4/19/12 at 9:00am
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If you needed yet more proof that 2nd Place is the first loser, allow me to present the sad case of Arthur Nadel, who died in prison on Monday at age 80. Who, you say? Exactly. He's basically a nobody in today's context of financial scam artists, but if it hadn't been for Bernie Madoff this guy would've been big news.

You see, Nadel and a few co-conspirators ran a number of sham hedge funds in South Florida, and boasted AUM of over $300 million when in fact the funds had less than $500,000 in them. In all, Nadel pocketed over $160 million in a massive Ponzi scheme. Redemption requests brought the house of cards down in January of 2009, and Artie high-tailed it out of Florida. He left cryptic suicide notes and paranoid predictions that someone was going to kill him for two weeks before turning himself in.

Again, this would have been huge news if Bernie Madoff hadn't turned himself in just a month earlier behind a previously unthinkable $50 billion Ponzi scheme. Ironically, Nadel ended up in the same prison as Madoff but got none of the same media recognition despite orchestrating the largest scam in southwest Florida history. While the media published reports about Madoff's daily comings and goings at Butner Federal Correction Complex, Nadel's death on Monday garnered nothing more than an update on the prison's website indicating that he was deceased. No cause of death was given.

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Design the perfect ponzi scheme

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David Aames
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(Baboon, 141
 
Points)
 on 3/6/12 at 5:51pm

The Stanford conviction got me thinking, just for shits & giggles, how would you design the perfect ponzi scheme w/ goal of maximum roi and getting out before you get caught (ie not getting greedy).

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What Is A Ponzi Scheme?

A Ponzi Scheme is a type of financial fraud pioneered by Charles Ponzi in 1919. The idea behind a Ponzi Scheme is that investors are offered high return and low risk and are therefore encouraged to invest. However, there is no actual investment going on with the funds, the return is simply provided by more investors joining the scheme. This can continue indefinitely and investors can receive their high returns, but as soon as the Ponzi scheme fails to attract enough new investors, the original investors will lose money.

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The Real Cost of College

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Midas Mulligan Magoo
     
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 5,167
 
Points)
 on 5/6/11 at 12:00pm
ewr

I often debate the merits of higher education with myself and my surroundings. On one hand there is no doubt that educational keys unlock the doors to power and success. On the other hand there is the increasingly astronomical cost of higher education, sentencing the recent grad to his or her student loan payment prison.

Though this community is far more cognizant of the values of top notch diplomas, I wonder if everyone here is aware of the real costs of attending college. I urge you guys to think twice about how much you really want to pay for that piece of paper. It really may not be worth the pulp it was printed on soon enough...

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Of Blimps and Boy Bands

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Edmundo Braverman
      ST
 
 
(Human, 14,319
 
Points)
 on 1/7/11 at 5:30am
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There's plenty of serious stuff to write about today, but the fact that it's Friday has me in the mood to take a little trip down memory lane and share one of the goofier Wall Street stories from my past with you guys. It might go a little long, but I think you'll enjoy it because it highlights some of the crazy stuff that got funded back in the day. A buddy of mine from back then (who's now a hedge fund manager in California) tipped me off to the fact that CNBC did an American Greed episode about this nutjob, which is in fact scheduled to air again next Sunday night (the 16th) at 8:00 p.m. if you want to check it out.

Anyway, we did a lot of crazy deals back in the early '90s. You guys enjoyed my piece on BioTime, so here's another for your amusement, albeit a story without a happy ending (unless you consider a 25-year sentence a happy ending). I'd been in the business for three or four months when I was told the firm was doing a secondary offering on a blimp company. The announcement was met by groans from the veterans at the firm, because we'd done the IPO on the company and the blimp they bought with the money crashed and burned.

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The Clawback Index: How will it Change the Game?

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Midas Mulligan Magoo
     
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 5,167
 
Points)
 on 11/27/10 at 2:31pm
clawback

Back to business today boys. After all...it's Saturday! I want to address two (IMHO) key issues for the finance world going forward. These issues will specifically effect those of you entering Wall Street soon and those who have hit the ground running recently. Both issues were addressed in the online WSJ over the last 24 hours. Here they are:

1) The Clawback

Irving Picard. Here's a name most of you don't know, but should. He is the trustee in charge of recovering money for Madoff's ponzi victims...

and

Arguably, the archetype of a new sort of BSD going forward.

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Booze: The Cause of, and Solution to, All of Life's Problems

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DoctorEvil
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(Senior Orangutan, 431
 
Points)
 on 7/9/10 at 5:21am
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So says Robert L. Miller, a former lawyer and money manager for the SEC who recently avoided a 20-year prison sentence for colluding with Marc Dreier in a Madoff-style ponzi scheme that bilked investors out of $400+ million, by telling the judge that he only did it because he was drunk. Case closed.

Yup. Miller's whole case rested on the fact that he was too drunk to know he was committing a crime. And it worked. Because he's like a chocoholic -- but for booze. I hope you'll join me in a standing ovation for his attorney. Oh, and if you listen closely, you'll be able to hear about 2 million jail cells opening and their occupants being excused.

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Gazprom: Angel or Demon?

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oilprice
      EN
 
(Gorilla, 574
 
Points)
 on 1/28/10 at 11:02pm

Gazprom faces regular opprobrium for its bullying ways of using energy as a pressure and political tool. Seen by some, mostly Russians, as the symbol of a successful and strong Russia, others see it as a dominating juggernaut, economic right arm of the Kremlin implementing, or should we say, imposing its policies by using energy as a weapon.

Just like Louis XIV used to say “L’Etat c’est moi” (I am the State), Gazprom could say the same in light of its commercial power and the unconditional governmental backing it enjoys. However, just like Monsanto generates passionate debates with its genetically engineered seeds, Gazprom’s activities cannot be simply labeled as right or wrong and subject to final judgments.

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Who Is Your Favorite Madoff Victim?

daltronator's picture
daltronator
      IB
 
(Orangutan, 317
 
Points)
 on 12/16/08 at 8:25pm
Bernie Madoff

"Weekend At" Bernie Madoff scammed a lot of people in different industries with his now famous $50 billion Ponzi scheme. (Anyone else going to be watching the CNBC hour-long feature special this week?)

But who is your favorite of all the victims?

Is it NJ Senator Frank Lautenberg's charitable trust? Is it Steven Spielberg? Check out the full list and let us know
http://clusterstock.alleyinsider.com/madoff-victim...

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How Bernie Lost Those Measly $50 Billion

daltronator's picture
daltronator
      IB
 
(Orangutan, 317
 
Points)
 on 12/12/08 at 4:53pm
Bernie Madoff

John Carney of Clusterstock.com explains how Bernie Madoff could have possibly lost that much money at a small family shop.

With colorful graphs!

http://clusterstock.alleyinsider.com/2008/12/how-b...

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Weekend At Bernie's Ponzi Scheme

daltronator's picture
daltronator
      IB
 
(Orangutan, 317
 
Points)
 on 12/12/08 at 4:45pm
Bernie Madoff

Supposedly the SEC and the FBI received letters several times over the last few years saying something to the extent of "Bernard Madoff is running a Ponzi scheme." Reminds you of Condi Rice's 'Osama bin Laden determined to attack in US with commercial airliners' line.

Check out Charlie Gasparino's trip down memory lane about Bernie Madoff's past. Interesting video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjDbZC2chIs

In case YouTube takes it down, full story on CNBC here - http://www.cnbc.com/id/28198739

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