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Louis Dreyfus Commodities Trading Program Interview

FXSA2010's picture
FXSA2010
      ST
 
(Baboon, 110
 
Points)
 on 5/17/13 at 12:16pm

Has anyone gone through the interview for the Louis Dreyfus Commodities Trading Program?

I was told there will be business cases during the interview - does anyone know what exactly this entails?

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Best represented undergrad schools in trading

mbavsmfin's picture
mbavsmfin
     
 
(Orangutan, 370
 
Points)
 on 5/9/13 at 4:04pm

I'm including both BB S&T and prop trading. This is obviously purely anecdotal, based on what i have seen during 4 years in the industry.

1. Wharton
2. MIT
3. NYU Stern
4. Columbia
5. Stanford
6. Princeton
7. UChicago
8. Dartmouth
9. Harvard
10. Carnegie Mellon

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FT Recruiting after SA Internship

ricky212's picture
ricky212
      ST
 
(Orangutan, 356
 
Points)
 on 5/5/13 at 6:32pm

Hello,

I'm from a non-target and had to do a lot of networking to get the BB S&T internship that I was lucky enough to get. Obviously, I didn't get that many interviews and no interviews that weren't through networking. This being said, I was curious if I should expect more interviews (without networking) when it comes to FT recruiting or will I still have to do a lot of networking to get my foot in the door?

Thank You

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Equities vs. Derivatives trading

RodneyBro20's picture
RodneyBro20
     
 
(Baboon, 109
 
Points)
 on 5/3/13 at 10:56pm

Why do the BBs and institutions seem to have more derivative traders than pure stock traders? I currently am doing proprietary trading, and noticed how my friends from HS/college who did trading pro at one point were NOT trading stocks. Is this going to be a problem for me if I try to exit?

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Junior Exotic Trader exit opps?

soshoou's picture
soshoou
     
 
(Chimp, 7
 
Points)
 on 5/2/13 at 6:37am

I am currently working as a junior exotic trader. At my stage, i feel i am doing a lot support work rather than trading structured notes, also the learning curve on the exotic desk is very slow, and rather than taking prop positions, it is a business of hedging risks. Sometimes I feel a little confused about the future.

I want to know what are the exit opportunities for juniors like me? Or it is better to accumulate more experiences then moving to another sell-side firm? Please could anyone give some advise?Thank you all!

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Ask Me Anything: I'm a Currency Volatility Trader

Revsly's picture
Revsly
      ST
 
 
(King Kong, 1,706
 
Points)
 on 4/29/13 at 1:41pm
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I work as a currency volatility trader and manage one of the bigger G10 blocs in London. I've been lucky enough to get responsibility early in my career. I started off managing a single currency book a few months into the job, and have steadily been granted more responsibility to where I am today. It's hard to say definitively what I do any given day, but usually it involves: constantly evaluating our positions (both in the light of my macroeconomic views and RV analysis), making markets for clients, and trading in the interbank market.

I think the thing I love most about what I do is the satisfaction you receive from getting things right. It's immediate gratification to be able to say each day what your contribution is... which also can make the job psychologically demoralising when you get it wrong; and you will get it wrong from time to time, that's a given.

Happy to answer any questions.

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Coffee with MD tomorrow morning. Please help!

Ambani's picture
Ambani
      IB
 
(Neanderthal, 2,770
 
Points)
 on 4/28/13 at 10:27pm

Hi guys!

So I emailed one of the alumni who is the MD of this middle-market investment banking firm asking for a summer internship and he asked me to come to his office for a coffee.

How should I prepare myself for the meeting and what should I expect?

I am a sophomore and have only one previous finance experience in trading.

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Hold Brothers Capital

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vr4mitsu
      EN
 
(Monkey, 51
 
Points)
 on 4/22/13 at 8:12pm

I keep on coming across job posts for "Equity Proprietary Trader" at Hold Brothers, and was hoping someone had some insight on working there. Are these guys legit, or are they one of those shops that are just after you paying a few thousand bucks for some lousy training program. Overall reputation?

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Day 1 of NYC S&T SA Internship

FutureLRO's picture
FutureLRO
     
 
(Monkey, 35
 
Points)
 on 4/22/13 at 11:41am

I've never worked in anything banking/trading related so I'm trying to get a sense of what the process will be like. I understand the whole first one in last one out mentality, but I assume people aren't showing up before the time they're told on day 1 correct? Also are SA's given their own desks/cubicles to work at or are we just sort of lumped into open tables or spaces? Finally, I've read that we are given laptops, (though usually crappy ones) I assume we're not allowed to bring our own?

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Tweets Coming to a Bloomberg Terminal Near You

TheKing's picture
TheKing
      O
 
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 5,141
 
Points)
 on 4/11/13 at 12:30pm
Twitter on Bloomberg

Last Thursday, Bloomberg announced that it has begun integrating Twitter functionality into its service platform. It filters company and market-centric tweets for its base of over 300,000 subscribers. This came shortly after the SEC provided guidance that would allow for companies to distribute their announcements and press releases through social media websites.

Bloomberg's service is heavily filtered and entirely focused on providing high quality, potentially market moving news to its users. Traditionally, banks and trading houses have restricted use of Twitter at the office for compliance reasons, so this service offers traders and Analysts a means of keeping up with twittersphere without resorting to their phones and without worrying the firm's legal staff.

I think that this goes a long way to confirm what we already know, that Twitter and other social media can move markets. I was curious to get an insider's view of just how important social media is in the trading world, so I reached out to a trader friend of mine for his view. Read on to hear what he had to say...

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How long are holding periods for BB traders?

Valuestrats920's picture
Valuestrats920
     
 
(Monkey, 53
 
Points)
 on 4/5/13 at 5:45pm

Are they day- traders? How long is the holding period, minutes, hours, days, months?

I understand that when they trade for clients, the holding period has to be very quick because the client wants their securities as fast as possible. But for prop traders, do they have a required holding period?

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Major Oil to Physical Trading Shop

pacman007's picture
pacman007
     
 
(Gorilla, 668
 
Points)
 on 4/4/13 at 10:11pm

I work for one of the major oil companies as an FP&A analyst for one of the trade groups in the Commercial organization. I have an interview lined up with one of the major pure physical trading shops (think Vitol, Trafigura, Mercuria, Glencore, etc.) as a risk analyst doing PnL for a commodity group. I think I have a good chance at landing the job but I am not sure if I should leave my current situation or not.

My ultimate goal is HF at some point. Would such a move make sense? Would it help me in any way land that HF gig quicker?

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GS Interest Rates Desk

Derivs's picture
Derivs
      IB
 
(Baboon, 133
 
Points)
 on 4/2/13 at 6:52pm

Hey Everyone,

Does anyone have any insights on Goldman Sach's interest rates desk?

I was looking to find out more about the culture there and what qualities they look for so as to get a feel for how to prepare for an interview (for both sales and trading sides).

Looking through their website the description of the group seemed pretty vague. I'm familiar with S&T already and have a general idea about interest rates desks (but it's not an area I currently work in).

This would be for full-time hiring.

Thanks!

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Background Check Pre-Offer

jesus of nazareth's picture
jesus of nazareth
     
 
(Senior Baboon, 242
 
Points)
 on 4/2/13 at 11:04am

I am in the process of getting background checked, but did not get a contingent offer from the firm. They told me they would make a decision by end of this month.

I just wanted to ask if it makes any sense for employers to check all shortlisted candidates before extending an offer?

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Interview with a Wandering Day Trader, Part 2/2

Wandering Trader's picture
Wandering Trader
     
 
(Chimp, 14
 
Points)
 on 4/16/13 at 2:00pm
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The following is part 2 of an interview with a wandering day trader. See part 1 here.

  1. What do the people you meet think of what you are doing? Have you experienced any animosity towards your income-methods given all the public hatred of "bankers" and anything to do with finance?
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Interview with a Wandering Day Trader, Part 1/2

Wandering Trader's picture
Wandering Trader
     
 
(Chimp, 14
 
Points)
 on 4/4/13 at 5:30pm
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Mod Note (Andy): The following is an interview we did with Marcello of wanderingtrader.com. He has a pretty amazing story to tell and he was nice enough to take some time out to answer all the questions we threw his way. He currently day trades while traveling the world. He has lived in 11 countries across 5 continents and has visited roughly 50 countries. .

He is also available to answer your questions, ask away monkeys!

  1. What do you trade and how did you find your success and build on it? It sounds like you basically just got some cash and taught yourself without ever working in a trading role - pretty amazing story!
    I always was hustling in high school and throughout college. After I returned from my stay in Italy I decided it was time to do something with my life. The first problem is that I'm lazy by nature but in all honesty it could probably be said that most of my generation is lazy. I don't mind working hard but I don't want to work hundred hours a week for a corporation that will decide to fire me at a moment's notice.

    My definition of success is not money, it's freedom.

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Why do traders do this?

Ambani's picture
Ambani
      IB
 
(Neanderthal, 2,770
 
Points)
 on 3/28/13 at 7:37pm

Why do experienced/accomplished traders work for a firm when they can work on their own and make more profit?

[I am a sophomore in the process of learning more about financial services industry. Please be cooperative if this comes off as naive. Thank you all for your responses.]

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What type of trading or type of firm is the easiest to break into for someone with no direct trading experience?

John Daggett's picture
John Daggett
     
 
(Senior Baboon, 241
 
Points)
 on 3/23/13 at 10:33pm
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Would structured products be easier to get into than money markets for someone who is NOT a quant?

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Want to be a Trader? 11 thoughts to get you started

Lone Wolf's picture
Lone Wolf
      ST
 
 
(Baboon, 163
 
Points)
 on 3/25/13 at 12:30pm
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Mod Note: Lone Wolf is the newest addition to our contributing author team. He is an independent trader/consultant, and has held several different trading positions including floor trader, liability and proprietary trader as well as Head liability trader and market maker. This spans 17 plus years in all of Canada’s major financial hubs.

In the old days, on a regular basis, we used to receive internet touts on pink sheet (should be called brown sheet) “companies”. Spammers would regale us with tales of quick riches, amazing opportunity and boundless moves higher in said stock followed by in one case: you know what that means. your (sic) the tader.

Of course being a “tader” you know exactly what this means: this asshole obviously can’t spell.

The beginning of a trading career often started with some interesting story about some guy not showing up for work, and it was busy, and you were in the gallery….and you got the job. This was common practice on the old trading floors. You never thought much about what it was all about because let’s be honest, a trading floor is exhilarating.

Today the path to trading is much different. Access is easy and wide. Trading costs are low. Information is plentiful and opportunities around the world are accessible. So if you want to become a trader, what can you do?


1) First off, you need to determine if you actually have the stomach for this.

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Prime Brokerage

moneyneversleeps88's picture
moneyneversleeps88
     
 
(Senior Chimp, 16
 
Points)
 on 3/18/13 at 8:45pm

Currently working in Prime Brokerage Product Control, possible to move to FO from this position?

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UCONN MS in Financial Risk Mgmt

mongo83's picture
mongo83
      O
 
(Monkey, 33
 
Points)
 on 3/17/13 at 3:53am

Can anyone hear speak to the reputation/ professional value (perceived or otherwise) of the University of Connecticut's MS in Financial Risk Management? The school advertises as though the program is successful at placing grads in trading roles on Wall Street? I'm military officer weighing this program against a tradition MBA because its shorter and MUCH cheaper. I'd be interested in hearing thoughts.

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Execution traders

streetwannabe's picture
streetwannabe
     
 
(King Kong, 1,316
 
Points)
 on 3/18/13 at 4:23am
execution trader.jpg

Hello everyone,

I was hoping that someone in the industry or with more knowledge about it that I, could discuss the role of execution traders. Would it be a good position to take out of college at a hedge fund? I am interested in pursuing a position I will be interviewing for as a junior trader, but am worried by what I've read as execution traders essentially being support roles that are not very active in FO decisions or research. As the fund is quite small, I would be hoping that I could also learn and eventually take on more of an analyst role or a pure trading role.

I initially think this would be a great role working at a hedge fund out of college and could take CFA and eventually go to get MBA or MSF. Any insight or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

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Bridgewater Interview

Chedona's picture
Chedona
      IB
 
(Monkey, 53
 
Points)
 on 3/10/13 at 9:16am

Hey all,

I was wondering if anyone knew what to expect in a Trading Associate interview at Bridgewater? Any clue what the tests are like? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

Best,

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Why do some people leave Wall Street?

RodneyBro20's picture
RodneyBro20
     
 
(Baboon, 109
 
Points)
 on 3/9/13 at 4:19am
leaving WS.jpg

So I'm about to enter Wall Street, but having noticed some kids I grew up with, who worked in the BB or HF full-time leave, I'm scared. Three of them:
1. One went to a semi-target (think Georgetown, UND), worked as a paper trader for a few years after grad at a BB, now is "biz-development" at some IT firm or something
2. The other went to the Ivy League, worked in a start-up HF, then went to BB, and now is at a start-up.
3. This guy went Ivy League too, was a credit trader at a BB for 4 years, now is at an insurance firm. He's not a salesman, but still.

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Prop-shop to BB S&T or HF?

chupadora's picture
chupadora
     
 
(Monkey, 30
 
Points)
 on 3/6/13 at 9:12pm
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I work at a prop shop in fixed income and am looking to make the jump. This is non-algo, non-quant discretionary trading. A few reasons:

- The prop trading approach (day-trading/scalping only) is getting tedious, and there's not enough depth. No exposure to any fixed income derivatives (no options, let alone swap/agency space). Just optimizing an ever-dwindling scalp.

- I fear for the future of non-algo trading. My job might be gobbled up by algos in a few years (months?).

- No surprise here, I'm not killing it. I'm making money, but not enough to sacrifice networking thru clients/exit opps/broader market exposure by staying.

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Difference of Job Role Between Trader and Developer in Algo Trading?

ratman2050's picture
ratman2050
     
 
(Chimp, 4
 
Points)
 on 3/6/13 at 7:36pm

I'm a bit new to the entire algorithmic trading scene and I wanted to know if there is a major difference between these two roles other than what I think below:

The trader - who looks at market trends and researches the markets
The developer - who actually writes the code for the algorithms

OR are the above people actually one job altogether and the developer needs to know both trading and coding, or vice versa?

Also, if they are separate roles, which one pays more? And is it possible to do both?

Thanks.

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Prop Firm Commission Rates (FNYS, firms that pay you salary)

valuemunkee's picture
valuemunkee
      IB
 
(Monkey, 44
 
Points)
 on 3/4/13 at 8:02pm

For a prop firm like FNYS that pays you a salary the first year during training, and then gives you a $1MM book the following year without a salary, with 50% profit split, is a $0.01/share commission too high?

Assuming you use that $1MM to trade intraday, the commission expense can really rack up.... I know most prop firms you can negotiate commissions to around $0.003/share.

So my question is, with this structure, the firm makes a ton of profit just from your number of trades, rather than solely on the profit split.

For the trader himself, seems tough to make a profit at the end of the day after subtracting penny/share commission and bloomberg/desk fees.

Any prop traders that can advise on this? Thanks

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Series 56, how long should you study, benefits down road?

RodneyBro20's picture
RodneyBro20
     
 
(Baboon, 109
 
Points)
 on 3/2/13 at 6:52am

I'm wondering, as I'm about to take the series 56 exam, how long did anyone here who took it take in terms of studying? Also, given the sheer amount of stuff on it (it has everything from options hedging/income/fx options to stocks, rules, at least 500+ pages in Pass Perfect), will future employers see it as a sign of being well versed?

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FOREX Trading?

blackrsx's picture
blackrsx
      ER
 
(Senior Monkey, 77
 
Points)
 on 2/23/13 at 1:56pm

I recently graduated and am in transition from working shitty part time jobs that are unreliable and trying to find an entry level position as a financial analyst.

During my time in college though, I was exposed to precious metals, primarily silver and I found that I could trade it on FOREX and avoid all those ridiculous commissions trading with a broker. Well I made a crapload of money with little to no experience in a months and a half time.

I really enjoyed trading on the FOREX ... Having an account with Gain Capital gave me exposure to a free subscription to E-signal charting.

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Buy-Side Options / Low GPA

CanadianGekko's picture
CanadianGekko
     
 
(Senior Monkey, 74
 
Points)
 on 2/18/13 at 2:42pm

I'm quite interested in the buy-side of Wall Street however, my issue is that I have a low GPA (3.05). Granted I still have a year to improve it and I go to the most prestigious school in Canada. However, which realm of finance would be least picky about GPAs?

Equity Research, S&T, Private Banking, Asset Management, etc.

Hopefully I could get some feedback. Feel free to rank accordingly. I have a passion for markets and I would love to be involved in one of these fields.

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