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Why do people still go to finance?

JasonLoh's picture
JasonLoh
      ER
 
(Senior Baboon, 190
 
Points)
 on 4/1/13 at 7:12am

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Why are you guys still interested in markets?

Disjoint's picture
Disjoint
      IB
 
 
(Gorilla, 701
 
Points)
 on 1/11/13 at 11:08am
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I don't really go on campuses anymore representing my banks at banking fairs, so for the last 2 years I have had little contact with undergrads etc...

I interviewed about 4 potential juniors recently, then decided against hiring someone without a client base. The only thing I really saw was that the guys 1) either just got laid off, or 2) could not find a single job; it was more a: "there is a job in banking, will try and get it even though i don't know about it". Brilliant people, with eye watering CVs; just an absolute shocker that they were still unemployed.

Given the massive hiring freeze, the over-bloated effectives in equities and fixed income, and the general beating banks have been taking. What makes you keep on going? The massive base salaries banks seem to pay? Or are you still hoping to get a nice bonus at some point? What's the carrot?

I'd be curious to know about people that are interested in markets strictly speaking, no bankers. Bankers are messed up in their own ways.

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Why do Management Consulting?

Hopkins55's picture
Hopkins55
     
 
(Baboon, 134
 
Points)
 on 9/24/12 at 3:30am
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Why is management consulting such a sought after position?

The consulting industry isn't as important to the economy as financial institutions, pharmaceutical companies or gas companies but yet recruits from the very top schools across the country. The pay isn't great (nowhere at all near finance/medicine/big law) and people need to travel a ton to mostly undesirable areas in order to provide "advice" such as balancing an institutions budget by increasing revenue and cutting spending (what a novel idea!).

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Why do banks recruit at ivies?

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WishYouWereHere
      IB
 
(Senior Orangutan, 394
 
Points)
 on 3/25/12 at 5:48pm

Why do banks recruit out of non Wharton or non Cornell AEM ivies when they don't offer a business program?. I'm sorry, but engineering or economics is no substitute for having legit accounting and finance skills an internhips you get through the top ugrad bschools. But the banks are so elitist and will take a 3.9 kid from harvard who doesn't even know what banking is until sophomore year over a kid from a good accounting program who has actually studied the material. Isn't that ridiculous?

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Why did you go to college?

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wolverine19x89
      O
 
(King Kong, 1,845
 
Points)
 on 8/7/11 at 11:34pm

Was it because:

-It's just what you're supposed to do?
-Parents forced you?
-You wanted a good job?
-You wanted to learn?
-You wanted to party?
-You wanted to say you went to _______ University?
-any other reason

I would've made a poll but I can't do that now...

And now what do you think is the best reason to go to college?

I'd like real responses please... If you realize now that college was really great for you because you learned so much, but when you first went it was just for a job, then say that instead of acting like you knew how awesome a college education was all along.

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Why

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bIastoise
     
 
(Senior Orangutan, 401
 
Points)
 on 5/13/11 at 5:13pm

Why do the CEOs of the worlds biggest companies trust the analytical work involved in their acquisitions and divestitures to 22 year old analysts who learned everything they know from a ten week training program?

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Why did you become a professional ..... trader?

statics's picture
statics
      O
 
(Monkey, 31
 
Points)
 on 2/21/11 at 4:38pm

Ola,

I can get a traineeship at a trading firm which offers me the chance to obtain experience on different security types and I can determine thereafter in which type of security I want to specialize myself to become a professional trader.

So therefore I am very curious about the professional traders around here. Why did you become a professional bond, stock, or deriviative trader? So what attracted you to become trading in stocks, bonds, or derivative that the other type of security did not offer? And if you could do it all over again would you switch trading in another type of security?

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Why Investing

Bambooozled's picture
Bambooozled
     
 
(Chimp, 3
 
Points)
 on 2/7/11 at 12:12pm

Why do you guys want to do investing?

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Slowness of B School Forum?

shorttheworld's picture
shorttheworld
      EN
 
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 4,310
 
Points)
 on 12/7/10 at 12:09pm

So has the forum died down a bit because everyone got all their requisite information and now working on sending apps out and waiting to hear back? ;)

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Trading Without a Net: Why I Don't Use Stops on Options Trades

Edmundo Braverman's picture
Edmundo Braverman
      ST
 
 
(Human, 14,353
 
Points)
 on 3/23/13 at 8:00am
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mod (Andy) note: "Blast from the past - Best of Eddie" - This one is originally from September 2010. If there's an old post from Eddie you'd like to see up again shoot me a message.

I've received a few messages from you guys about my recent DXD and SLV options trades, and I wanted to take a minute to explain part of my trading strategy when it comes to options. As you know, the silver trade is working well so far (up 18% in 8 trading days), the DXD trade not so much (down 66% in 9 trading days).

When you invest in something - anything - the value of it should rise immediately. If you buy a stock, bond, commodity, or derivative and it doesn't go up immediately, you were either early (best case) or wrong (worst case). Anyone who tells you otherwise is trying to sell you something. In order to be a long-term success as a trader, you have to cut your losses short and let your profits run. Stop loss orders are an excellent way to achieve that level of risk management.

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Why You're So Easy to Replace

Edmundo Braverman's picture
Edmundo Braverman
      ST
 
 
(Human, 14,353
 
Points)
 on 9/1/12 at 8:00am
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mod (Andy) note: "Blast from the past - Best of Eddie" - This one is originally from 9/2/10. If there's an old post from Eddie you'd like to see up again shoot me a message.

"The meek shall inherit the earth, but not its mineral rights." - John Paul Getty

After a particularly brutal day at the office, you might go home feeling like you're nothing more than a tiny cog in a vast investment banking machine. Hours of mundane labor leave you feeling like your contribution will never be recognized. You wonder if you've made the right career decision, and you wonder how much longer you can stand being just a cog in the machine.

You need to take a deep breath, relax, and quit flattering yourself. Even on your best day, you're not a cog in the machine. When a cog breaks down, people actually notice. You're more like the sandy bit of grease that gets squeezed out between the cogs. Completely expendable, and wiped away with as much thought as any other industrial nuisance.

Get ready, because I'm fixin' to lay some ugly truth on you.

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A few questions about banking

Yodaddy379's picture
Yodaddy379
      IB
 
(Monkey, 59
 
Points)
 on 6/5/10 at 2:11pm

Hey guys,

I'm doing a banking internship this summer and am toying with the idea of whether I want to do it long term. It seems like a lot of ppl do banking so they can get into PE/HF afterward. I guess my question is: given the hours and stress of banking, how are people so convinced that they're actually going to like doing PE or working at a HF?

It seems like a ton of effort doing something you probably don't like for two years only to *hopefully* get into something you *hopefully* will like...

Any thoughts on this?

My pro/con list for going into banking is as follows:

Pro:

$$$
exit opps
developing a huge network
quality of life after paying my dues

Cons

stress/hours
not sure I want to do PE/HF
lack of fulfillment (don't really feel like i"m making a dif in the world by working on a deal)

Any help would be awesome.

Thanks,
Yodaddy

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Why Your Walkaway Number Is Lower Than You Think

Edmundo Braverman's picture
Edmundo Braverman
      ST
 
 
(Human, 14,353
 
Points)
 on 9/15/12 at 10:30am
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mod (Andy) note: "Blast from the past - Best of Eddie" - This one is originally from May 2010. If there's an old post from Eddie you'd like to see up again shoot me a message.

We spend a lot of time on this site discussing how much money it would take to retire now, how much you plan to have when you walk away, and so on. I always get a chuckle out of these posts, because I know how different my actual walkaway number was from the number I had in my head when I got started. I don't bring that fact up much, because I'm not interested in being the catalyst for someone to lower their expectations/aspirations in life. I know what worked for me, and I'm satisfied with it, but I realize some people will strive for more.

I think for most of us starting out (and I know for a fact this was the case for me), somewhere around $10 million is the number. When I got started in the business, I was convinced that as soon as I accumulated $10 million, I was out. That was $10 million cash, mind you. The number in your mind might be higher or lower, but it's probably somewhere in that neighborhood.

This is going to come as a shock to many of you, but Business Week just published a fairly extensive study that might shine the harsh light of reality on your walkaway number. They found that Harvard MBA grads made more money over the span of their career than graduates from any other MBA program. The estimated career earnings for an MBA from the #1 business school in the nation? $3.87 million.

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Why finance?

lydia423's picture
lydia423
      IB
 
(Chimp, 13
 
Points)
 on 5/24/10 at 12:56am

This is a question that comes up in every finance interview. What do you guys say? I feel like I know everything NOT to say, but what is something that I CAN say?

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no background check?

uriooo's picture
uriooo
      IB
 
(Chimp, 2
 
Points)
 on 1/25/10 at 4:34pm

I just got an offer at UBS hong kong private bank. I was expecting the forms for backgrounc check with my contract and team pooling agreement.
However I did not see any of the forms. The only thing they asked is a copy of my degree certificate to submit so that the compliance team can apply for a working permit at the immigration office. I was introduced to this position by a client of their's.

Does anyone know why is this the case? Just because the introduction they wave the background check??

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Why MS/UBS/GS/JPM/etc?

CUQTrader's picture
CUQTrader
      ST
 
(Senior Chimp, 27
 
Points)
 on 1/24/10 at 6:35pm

interviewers love asking the question "why this bank?". I'm wondering what are some of the things that differentiate these banks?

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Why RBC should hire me

monkeybusiness123's picture
monkeybusiness123
      IB
 
(Baboon, 171
 
Points)
 on 1/8/10 at 12:39pm

This says it all...from dealbreakers

http://dealbreaker.com/2010/01/attention-rbc-duke-...

The guy created a website...

http://whyrbcshouldhireme.webs.com/

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why can't I get interviews?

hawk101's picture
hawk101
      IB
 
(Chimp, 4
 
Points)
 on 12/31/09 at 12:20pm

I know its probably BC I dont have any specific industry experience, but with that being said, I am a junior at a target school with a 3.8 GPA and I am a D1 varsity athlete. I do have some work experience, such as working at a restaurant while in high school and instructing my sport. I have two questions related to experience:

1) Should I list a finance club I am in at school and put a couple bullet points about what I learned at that club? ...(to show that I have an interest in finance)

2) Also, I am starting my sports online retail business, however the project is still in its early stages and probably won't be operational for at least 2-3 months. Should I put this on my resume with some bullet points on what I've done so far?

Thanks guys!

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Why XYZ company ?

heavyweight's picture
heavyweight
      IB
 
(Senior Chimp, 18
 
Points)
 on 12/10/09 at 4:05am

What is a genuine answer to the " why this company " question ? And how important is it really ?

Interviewers probably know that for 90% of applicants they will take pretty much any BB they get, and its not like applicants are dying to work for any 1 company particularly.

What is the best answer here ?

Thanks

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Why Asia (Interview question--- need help with answer)

jmdude's picture
jmdude
      ST
 
(Orangutan, 301
 
Points)
 on 10/20/09 at 4:59pm

Hey guys, I know I'm going to get some negative feedback on this one but fuck it im going to ask the question anyways. Alright, so Ive done a couple interviews for positions in Capital Mkts/Ibanking in HK/SG and since I'm neither Asian or raised in Asia I get the question "Why Asia?". What are they looking for? Knowledge on Asian companies? Knowledge on certain economies ie growth in China? Would an answer involving social/cultural aspects be scoffed at? Suggestions?!

Thanks

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Why Investment Banking?

jkjkjk's picture
jkjkjk
      IB
 
(Monkey, 55
 
Points)
 on 5/2/09 at 11:09am

Honestly i really cannot see the appeal in this field. Lets say you do make it through the ropes of finance, you work your ass off for 20 years, retire at around 40, but then what? Go to your vacation home in the Caribbean and just sit there with your trophy wife. Not to mention, the job itself will be extremely boring for 99% of you. I'm sure when you guys were little kids/teenagers, you didn't imagine yourself working in such a boring field that has no contribution to society.

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why is lehman taking such a huge hit right now?

yytseeker's picture
yytseeker
      O
 
(Senior Monkey, 67
 
Points)
 on 9/8/08 at 11:58am

all the investment banks' stocks are going up dramatically this morning of the fannie and freddie bailout. why is lehman the only bank to have taken such a huge hit after starting the morning pretty good?

any insights?

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